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Laughing Zealot posted:X-force Well I mean we've had years and years and years of the various X people being colossal gently caress ups in their personal and professional lives, as are all their enemies, what would possibly make anyone think they wouldn't gently caress up their own nation? Literally none of these people are qualified to run a school for children properly, why do would you think their incompetence would scale down as the responsibilities scale up?
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Mulva posted:Literally none of these people are qualified to run a school for children properly The gently caress are you talking about? 
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Nov 7, 2019 20:09
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Wolverine is a good teacher for the X-Men because I don't think the majority of any of his classes went evil or died. That's the bar for how mutants deal with their children. "Most of them are alive and not evil, it was a good year in the child harvests".
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Nov 7, 2019 20:46
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Dawgstar posted:I'll be for X-Force if it turns into Domino's team book. That's what one of the future solicits has me hopeful that is the direction the book is going in, but having the first issue imply that she's been captured, killed, skinned and had strips of her skin stitched on to the bodies of supersoldiers in order to bypass Krakoa's security web via halo jump is one hell of a first stepping stone to get there.
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Nov 7, 2019 21:14
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Mondo was a real unrepentant piece of poo poo. It's hard to see how he got to where he is in NM.
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Nov 8, 2019 00:55
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Alaois posted:That's what one of the future solicits has me hopeful that is the direction the book is going in, but having the first issue imply that she's been captured, killed, skinned and had strips of her skin stitched on to the bodies of supersoldiers in order to bypass Krakoa's security web via halo jump is one hell of a first stepping stone to get there. She isn’t going to be very happy about being sent on that mission. Her and Chuck will probably have some words when they come out of their eggs.
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Nov 8, 2019 06:24
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Little Mac posted:Mondo was a real unrepentant piece of poo poo. It's hard to see how he got to where he is in NM. Weren't Evil Mondo a clone Black Tom made?
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Dawgstar posted:Weren't Evil Mondo a clone Black Tom made? Yeah but real Mondo was an rear end too. This is more AoA Mondo which is fine with me.
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Nov 8, 2019 18:03
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah but real Mondo was an rear end too. I am unfamiliar with Mondo, what's his deal?
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Nov 8, 2019 19:47
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I only know AoA mondo, and thanks to the artist in genX he was creepy looking. But not Sugarman creepy.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:17
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Soonmot posted:I am unfamiliar with Mondo, what's his deal? Okay, so Generation X spun out of the Phalanx Covenant, which ended up with Banshee and Emma Frost opening up a spin-off school for a new generation of mutants. You had Jubilee, Skin, Synch, Chamber, Husk, Penance, M, Buff, Refrax, and Mondo. It's fun for a 90s Lobdell book and all the characters are interesting. Mondo was a laid-back Samoan whose abilities allow him to merge with matter upon contact, absorbing its mass and properties until he "digests" them. Mondo gets abducted by a handful of folks because he has pretty intense powers. He changes hands from Cordelia Frost to Shinobi Shaw and finally to a guy named Barrington... who was actually Black Tom Cassiday. Black Tom hoped to use Mondo to get revenge on his brother Banshee, so he cloned Mondo and then set things up so that Cordelia would bring him to be recruited by Generation X. Clone-Mondo hung around the Academy, interfaced with Krakoa (!!!), and was pretty chill the whole time. Then Black Tom enacted his programming and Clone-Mondo started viciously taking out his teammates one by one. He had spent the whole time learning about their powers and weaknesses. However, just as he was about to kill Jubilee she gets saved by... Bastion?! Bastion - who feels like he should fit somewhere in the whole Orchis storyline, tbh - pulls out a super anti-mutant gun and murders Clone-Mondo. The End. This is, like, issue #25. Meanwhile, Black Tom escapes and basically radicalizes the real Mondo. Real-Mondo is told about how Cordelia Frost is really the cause of all his troubles so he works with Black Tom to take her out, knowing that Cordelia will run to Emma and thus Generation X. Mondo works to murder the students because... Black Tom basically told him to and does a pretty good job of trying. GenX appeals to their friendship, but Real-Mondo - rightfully so - claims not to know them, so he's fine killing them. But eventually GenX fights back and Black Tom, Mondo, and Juggernaut (oh yeah he was there) dip. This is like Generation X in the mid-#60s. And then... that's it! He's basically been in two major storylines. His clone was a traitor and assassin and the real Mondo is... also just an assassin! He showed up during Cyclops's speech in DC and during Secret Empire in group shots, but that was it. The Mondo in New Mutants seems like the Mondo from early-Generation X. So, like... did he die and Xavier just rebooted him from Clone-Mondo's memories? The real Mondo is garbage boy.
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I choose to believe that current Mondo looked at his buddy Black Tom and said "hey if that guy's gonna be chill with everything so am I" That way I don't have to think about it any harder than that
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Little Mac posted:And then... that's it! He's basically been in two major storylines. His clone was a traitor and assassin and the real Mondo is... also just an assassin! He showed up during Cyclops's speech in DC and during Secret Empire in group shots, but that was it. The Mondo in New Mutants seems like the Mondo from early-Generation X. So, like... did he die and Xavier just rebooted him from Clone-Mondo's memories? The real Mondo is garbage boy. Black Tom is also on Krakoa and is acting surprisingly chill for somebody with a nearly-40-year history of being a total bastard. I think we need to start really considering the idea that Xavier is loving with people pretty hard.
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Wanderer posted:Black Tom is also on Krakoa and is acting surprisingly chill for somebody with a nearly-40-year history of being a total bastard. I think we need to start really considering the idea that Xavier is loving with people pretty hard. Why are we assuming it's Xavier? For all we know it's Krakoan spores or some poo poo broaden your minds
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Nov 9, 2019 04:25
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Little Mac posted:Buff and Refrax No. Bad.
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BrianWilly posted:I can see what people mean about X-Force. It's definitely just...we're less than one month into the new status quo and already mutant children are being shot in the head. Of course the extenuating caveat here is that they can all come back now, but still. C'mon. Issue number one. It does get to be both, given that one of the major themes of Hickman's plan for the X-Universe is evolution, and how species interact with each other and evolve because of one another. So, in this case, Krakoa is a mutant-friendly island, with it's own ecosystem and the animals, etc. there are evolving to match their new mutant-rich environment. Who knows how long/fast evolution takes on the island. The question is whether that's a piece in a bigger story: is the island evolving to reject mutants? Is Krakoa doing something to make it that way? Did Moira spend so much time on the human/mutant evolution issue that she missed something dangerous to mutants in the animal kingdom?
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Those were the original Hellions in that panel of New Mutants, right? And where is Thunderbird?
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Open Marriage Night posted:Those were the original Hellions in that panel of New Mutants, right? probably wherever Warpath is, hanging out and catching up after John's been dead for the past *sliding time scale* years
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Alaois posted:probably wherever Warpath is, hanging out and catching up after John's been dead for the past *sliding time scale* years Probably less than 10, Hickman said he disagrees with the editor about how old Cyclops is (editor says late 20's, Hickman writes him to be early 30's), and I think even Iceman was a college graduate by the time of Giant Size X-Men.
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Little Mac posted:You had Jubilee, Skin, Synch, Chamber, Husk, Penance, M, Buff, Refrax, and Mondo. When were Buff and Refrax ever in a comic? As far as I know they were only in the Generation X TV movie. They replaced Husk and Chamber. Synthbuttrange posted:Okay out of the first issues, X-Men, Marauders, New Mutants are pretty neat. Excalibur is a bit weird but who knows how that'll go. X-Force is the clunker of the group, being way way too much like stuff we've seen before. Who's the writer anyway? Excalibur and X-Force are both clunkers. X-Force is the same old poo poo and Excalibur seems like a checklist. You're allowed one popular character: Rogue You're allowed one wildcard character: You're allowed one obscure character: Trinary You're allowed one nostalgia character people will recognize but no one claims as their favourite: Jubilee You're allowed one character to re-invent: And then Gambit is thrown in as a freebie because of Rogue. Heathen fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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Wanderer posted:Black Tom is also on Krakoa and is acting surprisingly chill for somebody with a nearly-40-year history of being a total bastard. I think we need to start really considering the idea that Xavier is loving with people pretty hard. Tom's had an amusing evolution of his powers. Once upon a time he could just shoot fire through his Irish cane. (Not a euphemism.)
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Honest question: why can't Magik just teleport all of them to Sam?
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Synesthesian Fetish posted:Honest question: why can't Magik just teleport all of them to Sam? I don't think she can do interstellar distances. That was Lila Cheney's bag.
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Synesthesian Fetish posted:Honest question: why can't Magik just teleport all of them to Sam? It'd be a much less interesting book.
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Cloks posted:It'd be a much less interesting book. "Look, I know we can fly across the country but it's so much more interesting if we just walk" please...that's a lazy answer or it's lazy writing.
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does Magik still have the problem where if she teleports a certain distance she might also teleport through time
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i wouldn't trust Magik to teleport me to the convenience store without having some kind of horrifying trans-dimensional experience let alone another planet in a far star system
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^same but Corsair
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They really need to hook up with Lila Cheney.
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Especially now that Cannonball is married and has a kid.
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Skwirl posted:really need to hook up with Lila Cheney. -me, 1992
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Magik can do next dimension easy. Next solar system, less so.
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Is Cannonball still nigh invulnerable when he's blastin'?
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Gologle posted:Is Cannonball still nigh invulnerable when he's blastin'? Yeah, although he doesn't say it as often these days. Also: https://talktotransformer.com/ posted:Is Cannonball still nigh invulnerable when he's blastin'? Well, not anymore, as that super power is gone now. Cannonball doesn't have an actual super power anymore, but he does have a new ability: "When Cannonball is KO'd, his Power Gem is recovered and he may recover all of his health." This may not sound like much, but the power gem itself has two uses. First, when Cannonball is knocked out, he may pick up his Power Gem and use it to recover his health. This power is pretty useful, as it can be used to recover your health back from near death. Second, the Power Gem has a cool new ability. It can be thrown in the direction of Cannonball when he is KO'd, and upon impact will There's still something we're better at than AI and that's knowing our nerd poo poo, take that Nimrod
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Why are we assuming it's Xavier? Yeah, between the predators and some stuff on the Fallen Angels previews, I am now utterly convinced Krakoa is brainwashing every mutant so it can eventually eat them all. Which considering the fact that Krakoa STARTED as a mutant devouring abomination before the retcons muddled everything, is kinda obvious.
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Posting these pages in the X-Men thread for no apparent reason that probably won't come up later: (from Rocket #2)  
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Sesq posted:Posting these pages in the X-Men thread for no apparent reason that probably won't come up later: it would be pretty funny if Hickman/Brisson end up building an actual story around Al Ewing's one-off joke character
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Like Jason Aaron keeps doing with The Orb
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Sesq posted:Posting these pages in the X-Men thread for no apparent reason that probably won't come up later: Yeah I’ll take a full comic of these fuckers, please and thank you
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