Paddyo posted:

I thought so too until they turned Karen into a sociopath in season 2.

Boris Galerkin posted:

Does Invasion get better? Just watched the first episode out of boredom and I’m pretty sure I came out more bored at the end.

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

I think is more of a personality thing than format thing, I am a proponent of weekly drops and I enjoyed both of the "bonus" episodes, but I also don't mind when shows take their time getting to wherever they're headed. Beard wandering around for a night by himself to sort out his feelings would work for me in any context.

Cojawfee posted:

SimonChris posted:

Another cool Constellation detail that I just found out about :

When Jo and her daughter is talking on the tablet at the beginning of episode 1, we are seeing both versions of them. When they switch to speaking English, the daughter's clothes change (and the actress too, I suppose. The daughters are played by twin girls). Edit: Her hairstyle also changes.

Cojawfee posted:

Just watched the fourth episode of Constellation. Still more slow burning but a bit more plot development. The story is interesting, but I wish they would stop with the time skips. Jo is talking to Bud at ESA, then he's on that cruise ship arguing with the conspiracy guy. I don't know why it's so difficult to just tell the story in order. Unless it is in order and one Bud is in on reality and the other is in another reality.

BuckyDoneGun posted:

Cojawfee posted:

Don't make me post space quadruplets

CeeJee posted:

As low key psychological horror Constellation works better than as a Sci Fi show. The idea of your memories being wrong and no longer matching reality while still catching glimpses of what you remember is pretty horrible.
They are taking the easy way out by making the differences easy to film like a different color car and only one actress now speaking Swedish. Coming back to a reality where Swedish is the common language instead of English would be cooler, a major change like Apollo 18 failing or not long ago would have changed so much more than is shown here.

I do like the idea of liminal spaces as if reality is fixed into place by the outcome of countless concious choices made and in places where no such choices happen like space or an empty forest things are not as fixed. For the show I'm not sure where there is for the characters to accomplish. They cannot go back to the reality they came from and even then the tragedy stil happens, just to a different family.

Attack on Princess posted:

It's hard to tell if there's more mysteries or if they're loose ends from poor writing. Like you Taear mentioned earlier, the pod undocking doesn't make sense. There's also English Alice having seen Irene's corpse and talked to her, and that feels like it was only added to stop Jo questioning herself. It doesn't fit the narrative we've seen.

I liked that Swedish Magnus understands Swedish though. I can't remember if they established that for English Magnus earlier, but that makes it more endearing when Jo calls him Mog Gnooose.

frogbs posted:

Constellation seems designed some someone who has never watched or read science fiction before.

Cojawfee posted:

The show is a lot of "weird poo poo is happening and my daughter is scared and confused. Should I tell her I'm seeing weird stuff too? No, I will gaslight her."

apatheticman posted:

Making your show entirely about scientists (including a noble prize winner) and astronauts and having them being entirely uncurious and unforthcoming is an odd choice. At least do an exposition dump as to why they would find this area touchy.

huh posted:

I enjoyed Constellation to keep watching until the end but I didn't understand it enough to determine if the show stayed faithful to its own internal logic. Why did Bud/Henry switch places? We'll never know, and it probably doesn't matter. But it confused the hell out of me.

Cojawfee posted:

The why of why Bud did it is pretty obvious. Whatever happened on that mission, he didn't gently caress up, his astronauts were still alive. Then something happens and they are dead. I'm guessing he gets back to Earth, there's an investigation, it doesn't go well for him, and then his life is in shambles, he loses the job at NASA and all he's got is that book he wrote that has a bunch of things that don't match his real life in that reality. Over time he notices Henry and realizes that Henry is living the life he was supposed to live. Henry's astronauts lived, he clearly keeps working at NASA and wins a nobel prize and makes the CAL. It's pretty obvious that Bud would want that life that should have been his. The how is what we don't know. It seems that when Bud doesn't take his meds, he is able to do things to Henry. He made Henry piss his pants when talking to what's his face about going up to the lake house. I'm guessing that being in the liminal space of the lake and the CAL being there, Bud was able to wish hard enough to switch with Henry that it became possible.

Jerusalem posted:

So it sounds like Constellation ended up being just a bigger version of Harness' Doctor Who writing where he didn't quite seem to understand himself what point he was trying to make?