Victory Position posted:

is this a grift

bloom posted:

no

timefly posted:

Goon fund has now helped me several times over the last 2-3 months ... Even though I'm legally "totally and permanently disabled," my assistance has been on hold since October.

This has saved me multiple times, twice from spending holidays alone eating stolen food in an apartment with no heat. It also allowed me to get a Wal-Mart phone plan so I'd still have phone and Internet this month. So I'm more grateful than you can imagine.

I'm hoping my disability will be back for January so I can give back at least little. I can't help but feel like a jerk for getting so much help from people who don't even know me or my situation.

I can't imagine what I would have done without goons these past few months, thank you thank you thank you to all involved ...

timefly posted:

Lol yeah but I'm not worried about that, it's just too heavy and cumbersome for one person. They give you a bag of produce, a bag of breads, and 2-3 big heavy boxes of cans, jars, and frozen meats. Lots of sweets too! It's actually amazing.

The week you're allowed to attend goes by last name; I'm D so I can get food on the first Thursday of the month. I usually get a ride with someone else who's going.

If any Delawareans are reading and wanna get in on this, it's Greenbank Church of Christ. If it's your first time going, you can come on any Thursday. Everyone lines up around 530 and the doors open at 6. Bring ID and two pieces of proof that you receive assistance such as SSI/SSDI, Medicare/Medicaid, SNAP, etc. If you don't have any of that they might still let you in, so maybe give them a call.

VROOM VROOM posted:

*pounding on back of seat in front of me* meat, meat, meat
*person in front of me turns around* Meat, Meat, Meat
*light-up sign on outside of bus turns on* "MEAT, MEAT, MEAT"

Plinkey posted:

email me

plinkey@borkingsinstitute.com

e: that email is hosed up for some reason

Bronze Fonz posted:

GOONBANK - GOONSTAMPS

Plinkey posted:

also if you email me at that address, plz post in the thread, I don't have it hooked up to another email or anything and forgot the password so I just have to log in through the overall admin panel.

SunAndSpring posted:

the only thing I regret about this is that this deleted the deathconsciousness album art i was using for my avatar and I didn't leave it saved on my pc so now I have to remake it

also it was basically impossible to uphold the toxx of "two months of therapy" during the coronavirus without paying out of my ears for online therapy that doesn't accept insurance so oh well

Plinkey posted:

BrownieMinusEye posted:

I don't post much but SA has basically created my personality over the last 15 years for better or worse. I want you all obese and safe. Upped my contribution to $50/month

Azathoth posted:

Plinkey, you running into the other thread and being a surly rear end in a top hat then coming back here and trying to use my warning in a different thread to evade accountability in your own thread is really not helping your case. Also, that post only applied to the other thread, not this one. You should be answering people's legitimate questions.

Folks in this thread, this fund has done a lot of good, I would ask folks who have legitimate things they would like Plinkey to answer to post them here and leave the shitposting out of it. There's reasonable things to hold Plinkey accountable for and people who need help from his fund. Please don't interfere with either of those things.

CODChimera posted:

yeah it's playing out how some of us in the qcs thread thought it would lol

can't believe none of them are helping out!! feeling betrayed

DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:

Lets do some thought experiments here.

How much money does the fund have? I don't mean income, I mean how much is currently sitting in there.

Are we assuming that the fund is operating at a net-zero? Is ~3200 going in each month, and exactly ~3200 is going out to pay goons? I doubt it, but lets assume so. This is really precarious! Lets assume hypothetically that Plinkey is kicked off Patreon today, for whatever reason. 3200/mo becomes 0/mo. If the fund is operating at a net zero, then the fund is suddenly completely unable to help anybody until Plinkey is able to secure a new source of donations. Wouldn't the people giving money like to know if that is the case? I sure would!

More likely than that, the fund is not operating at net zero, and there is excess money left over each month. Hopefully this money is being kept in an account where it can accumulate interest and can be accessed when the need arrives, say if the Patreon starts to dry up but people are still in need.. But we don't know how much is in there and that's a problem!

Lets say of the 3200/mo, 2200 is going out to goons. So there would be 10,000 excess funding so far from this year, that should be sitting in an account, enough to cover 4-5 months of that same rate. That would give Plinkey plenty of time to continue supporting goons while trying to re-secure the funding. Great!

But lets say there's a lot less money sitting around (because we have ZERO idea how much money there is!). Lets say there's only about 100 dollars leftover at the end of each month, and Plinkey is not able to sustain the fund without the Patreon. Wou'dnt you want to know if the fund's existence was this precarious? Letting the community know "hey, our funds are a bit low right now" would be a fantastic way to secure more donations, because I can't imagine anybody who is currently giving would want to see this thing fail.

And another hypothetical, lets say that the fund is doing really well, and there's more like 30k sitting around. Don't you think, if that was the case, that there are some donors out there who might take that information and reduce their current pledge? I'm sure that not everyone currently giving is totally financially stable. Without being properly informed about the financial wellbeing of the fund, some of these individuals might feel pressured into giving more than they really feel comfortable.

Anyways, none of this even takes into account the possibility that amounts might be skimmed off the top. We don't need to consider that at all, because no matter how you slice it, the failure to disclose financials is automatically misappropriation. It doesn't matter if Plinkey is putting the money into a bank account, or if he's hording it in his sock drawer. it doesn't matter if he is shoving it into a huge cartoon money bag and dragging it straight to the casino, it doesn't matter if he is throwing dollar bills out the window at homeless people, or if he's feeding they money to an alligator at the zoo. The fact that it is unaccounted for is unethical, end of story. People are giving money to a specific cause, and people have a right to know how that money is being used for that cause.

DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:

how about you respond to anything i actually said lol.

Fsmhunk posted:

Please quote where I said people weren't getting any money. Indeed, the premise of my post at Plinkey would REQUIRE him to at least give the posters in question money that one time, and potentially in the future. Either you didn't read my post and just assumed everyone has the exact same criticisms, or you're just creating an argument you'd rather have than trying to adress what I said in this reality.

Fsmhunk posted:

My posts did not say people were being tricked, just that Plinkey had displayed poor judgement, and he should have more tact considering what this thread is and what he does in it. Of course anyone is free to just ignore me, but I wasn't asking for a response, merely that if people WERE going to respond to me, they at least actually respond to what I said. Nothing I said in these exchanges was even remotely over the line.