DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:

we literally don't know if this is true or not, because we don't know what is happening to the money. if donations are not being used for their intended purpose, then that is harm being done to the community. and before you say that nobody itt is saying anything about that, people have been asking for transparency since the thread started! we can't just isolate this to the last few days. This is an active problem that has been on-going, and has now developed to its current state. this 'drama' has not just emerged from the ether like some would try to frame this. in fact, this whole thing could've been resolved ages ago if Plinkey had not responded so aggressively towards people who, early on, wanted to help out, or had advice on how to keep things accountable.

and also, as I said before people are already unsubscribing from the Patreon. presumably those people care and are part of this community!

fun hater posted:

this is unconvincing and weird behavior

im askin for a scrap here for data points tbh. if someone else has a patreon under the new pricing system dm me ty

Skyl3lazer posted:

Beyond the loss of donations, it's now both
A) harder to find this thread
B) has an additional layer as the quoted poster pointed out: you have to be willing to bump a drama thread to ask for help
C) knowing that the admin-encourage swarm of shitheels still allowed to post here will make fun of you for it.

I still encourage people to donate (I do, and have for a long time) and to request money. I can only say "just ignore them, they're pieces of poo poo" and hope that's enough

Harold Fjord posted:

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Crime on a Dime posted:

DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:

1st of all:

There were a few more posts like this, but I don't have time to find them right now. (Pentyne maybe use your magic?)

There have also been a few posts like this:

2nd: Because of the scope of the fund, you should consider any poster a potential donor or recipient. Anyone's opinion is valid, because anyone could be donating or in need of funds. I would be happy to donate if things were being run better. I guarantee I'm not alone in that feeling.

I'm going to continue to focus on posting in the other thread, and helping to put together the new fund. But could you please stop leveling these disingenuous accusations against anyone who could possibly have a different opinion than you on this. You're literally the guy inserting drama here RN. Take a breath and contemplate this for a bit, I think you just need to re-think. Thank you.

Cup Runneth Over posted:

i could have sworn this thread had an IK

Daniel Dales Dick posted:

Shut the gently caress up.

500 good dogs posted:

are matthew and katy perry related

Farm Frenzy posted:

you are a liberal

WrasslorMonkey posted:

Turn on your monitor

jarofpiss posted:

it's actually good to have a tight scope on what your project is trying to accomplish and i think this thread did a perfectly good job of that.

dorks and nerds (liberals) across the world feel a deep need to turn every altruistic program into a charity with committees and fundraising and titles etc because their brains are so thoroughly broken by capitalism that even when they try to create a structure that alleviates the suffering caused by it, they can't help but replicate the structures that create the suffering in the first place. they have no other frame of reference to create a program.

literally every charity in the world has a board packed to the gills with people with "business experience" and focuses on fundraising and efficiency and oversight to make sure nobody gets one over on the charity. it costs huge amounts of time and resources and is absolutely completely insane. they just can't see it from any other perspective.


this never appeared to me to be a project that was aspiring to liberate people from capitalism, and it doesn't require oversight and a board and audits and fundraising drives and forms and papers etc. what's wrong with a simple straightforward agreement that lets one person hand out money to people who ask? why does it have to be a full on GOON PROJECT? who really cares if a bunch of people have a $5 auto patreon payment they've forgotten about and some sub-optimal percentage of funds is getting distributed, or the response time isn't immediate? why the push for the committee oversight on the take-a-penny-leave-a-penny tray?