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Harlock posted:Berserk resumes April 24th. Next: Griffith invents tax deductions
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Please wait for the horrible HBO series before calling Miura an absolute fucker, k thx
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Do not, my friends, become addicted to chapters! They will take hold of you, and you will resent their absence
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"Glad you're here, Skull Knight. The world has been transformed while you were gone" "Really" "Yeah, like, we encountered crazy tentacle monsters. No qlipoth, no apostles, no kushan magic. Just actual monsters. Crazy" "Hmmm-hmmm" "I just know Griffith did this somehow. But he shouldn't have the power to merge dimensions like that. How did he do it" "Uhm" "How" "I think I gotta go" "HOW"
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Skull Knight flashback. SKULL KNIGHT FLASHBACK. SKULL KNIGHT FLASHBACK
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SKULL KNIGHT FLASHBACK. SKULL KNIGHT FLASHBACK!!! The reveal of the four other Godhand members explains some things quite nicely. When the Band of the Hawk went to rescue Griffith, there was a legend told about a "mad monk", who called upon "four angels" to tear down Gaiseric's empire. It's strongly implied that this monk was Void, so how could there possibly have been four members of the Godhand already? My first impression was that the Godhand somehow exist outside of time, at least when Griffith hadn't regained his body yet, so Femto had also been present for the coronation of every other Godhand member. But this flashback paints quite a different story. Godhand members can be replaced! Either Void somehow got rid of the other four, making him the oldest and, presumably, most powerful among the Godhand, or someone - like Skull Knight - actually managed to kill them. This is extremely significant. This could point to the method of attacking/hurting them. Oh boy
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"Wow, Skull Knight! So you had a love interest, too?" "Yup" "And a witch companion to pull you back from the Berserk Armor's influence?" "True" "And a comic relief kid sidekick?" "Yeah" "With a comic relief fairy?" "...yeah" "And there's this crazy chick following you with her secretly badass bodyguard?" "..." "..." "This is getting weird" "Okay, last one, did you have a creepy fanservice-y underage mermaid"
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Funky Valentine posted:So going by Griffith's "give me wings", Godhands (and possibly Apostles in general) have a say in what they look like after ascension. So I really want to know what exactly the skinny dude between Void and Boobs Galore asked for when he ascended. "Just gently caress me up fam"
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While we are ranting about existing Berserk publications... Berserk MAX 18 is poo poo. Just outright leaving English sentences in, then putting the translation in another speechbubble on the same page. What the gently caress. I really like the Ocean God arc (minus mermaid teenager), but that one causes me unreasonable anger /weirdlySpecificRantEnd
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If Miura continues the entire rest of Berserk finishing only 3-4 chapters a year, I'm sure the story will finish in a spectacular manner, with every plot thread accounted for I just hope I will be still alive then
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Burkion posted:I hope he will be alive then I just kinda assumed he's immortal
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Pierson posted:I hope the end will still be Guts and Caska versus Griffith but I don't think it'll be some mega-fight where they duel at the top of Falconia while the rest of the gang fight Zodd et al, just because that would be exactly what Griffith would want in that situation and I think Griffith's fate is going to be much more wretched than that. Honestly, I think the endgame will definitely involve Guts fighting a lot, but I think Guts' great end fight will be with Zodd, not Griffith. Zodd is basically the fated enemy of Guts at this point. They've had several clashes, they hold immense respect for each other, hell, they even begrudgingly teamed up at one point. They're the closest to equals; while Skull Knight obviously also has a sort of rivalry with Zodd, he's always had his sights set on Void in the end, often leaving Zodd in the dust as he did his thing. When Zodd goes out, I think it will be in a legendary fight with Guts, an end that he would want as an honorable warrior. Now, mind, there will definitely be a confrontation with Griffith, but I don't think it will be a straight duel. I don't think that would be the point. Instead, I expect something else to bring down Griffith, and in the end, the other character with a mayor revenge story might be his end: Rickert. It's almost comical how much Rickert's story matches a more classic hero tale: grow up under his hero, then disaster strikes; years later, he discovers the hero was actually responsible for the disaster; he rejects the hero, escapes with his life, then goes to train with secret ninja clans to get his revenge (and protect those he loves). Guts and Casca will likely learn to move on, probably, considering the themes of self-destructive revenge. Guts has destroyed himself physically and mentally in the pursuit of pure, self-serving revenge; whereas Rickert's revenge is depicted as a defense (Griffith, or his henchmen, tried to kill him first), and more noble (Rickert acts to protect his loved ones - Guts didn't act to protect Casca at first). It only makes sense that Guts and Casca can break the circle of violence. And honestly, they deserve it. Griffith deserves poo poo, give Rickert a glorious kill and then have Void laugh at him
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Hilario Baldness posted:Oh most definitely. I tried explaining it to one of my coworkers that saw me reading it and I said it was like Game of Thrones meets Hellraiser, but philosophically profound and moving. I absolutely love that Berserk is the raddest poo poo ever, while also having a nuanced, meticulously crafted epic story that poses serious philosophical questions and examines characters as they relate to fate, revenge, the circle of violence, ambition, and all that Me irl going 'mmm, yes, griffith transcends the morality of humans, yet despite his insistence he is still tied to the lives of those he hurt the most, embodied as a supernatural child, surely an inevitable turn in an upcoming tragedy' and 'holy poo poo that demon exploded oh my loving god' Proving, once and for all, that these are not opposed, and can in fact reinforce each other And that's why I am, in fact, very cultured for hanging A3 prints of dick monsters jizzing at teenage witches over my fireplace, uncultured swine
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These are the worst possible news. I was absolutely, constantly in awe at how Berserk managed to be so great throughout its run. I truly got the feeling of meticulously planned, epic storytelling, with no sudden unplanned decisions, no improvisation. Berserk is absolutely masterful storytelling. It will never be finished. I do, in some way, hope there is a conclusion to the story - based on notes left behind, whatever -, but I'm not deluding myself into thinking it will be entirely the same. There is no other story I know that has so consistently stayed great. RIP Kentaro Miura. Thank you 
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lezard_valeth posted:This realization really hosed up my head There was also the extended fight in the harbour versus Ganeshka's demons, the water snake, and finally the emperor himself as Guts teams up with Zodd The armour starts to take him over, but Schierke pulls him back, and from then on he uses the armour while fully conscious. Bouncing from ship to ship and all that. I bet it still drains him, though
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He has only actually used the armor 3 times, I think? (when he first obtains it, vs the demons at the beach and vs the sea god)
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While I can't say I have 100% confidence (no-one can, obviously), I'm really glad the next-best person in the world and Miura's established team are finishing this. I'd rather have them try to do the envisioned finale justice than not try at all - and given how insanely well-planned almost the entirety of Berserk is, I think we'll get a good estimate of what the real deal would've been. Even if some of the details might be off, I have zero doubt that it will successfully carry on the spirit of Berserk. More importantly, I hope for incredibly metal two-page spreads of Guts fighting incredibly designed monsters, while it continuously surprises me with the level of care and cleverness put into side characters and even simple fight scenes That'd be neat
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Bad Seafood posted:You gotta wonder though, after the first 99 guys got cut down, what was the last guy thinking? - staring off-screen, fear sweat and tears running down his face in luscious detail - "B... Berserk..." Alternatively, nothing, because each of Guts' swings always kills at least 2 dudes at once. Trick question
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Legitimately one of the best scenes in the entire manga. Holy poo poo It's just a master class in build up. Rickert, the little kid running along with the band of the hawk, giving Griffith, a living god, the ultimate disrespect in front of his court. He's the secret protagonist of the fantasy novel that's been running in the background all this time - idolizes his hero - his war band gets horribly betrayed, with supernatural forces slaughtering them - the hero returns, but a terribly hosed-up grim-dark survivor of the disaster reveals the hero betrayed them all - he gets a love interest and fights for survival by inventing medieval pipebombs and stuff - he meets the hero again, now a "saviour" of humanity, and slaps the poo poo out of him - assassins come after him, but by allying with a powerful former enemy from a foreign nation, he escapes - training sequence with badass super assassins - returning to avenge the fallen and fight Griffith??? Guts needs a rest, and deserves a happy ending. I believe that Zodd will be Guts' final "real" fight, because it's the only way Zodd would ever want to go out. The fight with Griffith - while there may be blade crossing involved - will likely be more abstract, and unresolved. But Rickert has it all set up. He's got no trauma associated with the relentless quest for revenge. Him, being the one to judge and defeat Griffith for real? I can see that happen. (cut to: Guts refusing to duel Griffith, pointing instead at Rickert who has a bazooka)
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Berserk is clearly quite edgelord-y with several of its aspects; horror, gore and sexual violence is exaggerated to a ridiculous degree. I'm remembering one of the first scenes with the count, where he graphically crushes a freshly-decapitated head. It's almost goofy - but that's not something that can be said about all of the goddamn rape. THAT element is clearly like shlocky horror, meant to shock and titillate. I don't so much mind the existence of these elements in the story, but rather the depiction. The pornographic aspects are, frankly, embarrassing and demeaning. It's something that never quite went away throughout Berserk, even when it got less grimdark. But there's no helping it. Berserk is still a ridiculously well-crafted story, especially for how simplistic it COULD have been. Despite the pornographic bent, we do have women characters you can take seriously. The demeaning depiction of rape is an artistic choice which I cannot and do not want to defend, so the best I can do is acknowledge it, and give a clear warning to anyone I want to recommend the manga to. Berserk will always have this flaw. However, the story has earned enough of my trust to believe that it will not discard the women in the story, like so many other stories with rape in it do. Sucks that you cannot talk about Berserk without mentioning this. I will probably be extremely disappointed if Berserk drops the ball in the end, aaaaaand let's admit it, there's a non-zero chance it will. Here's hope...
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I have to admit though, I'm anxious about that. Berserk has been surprisingly good about its female characters (as in, there actually ARE any, as opposed to purely props and trophies), at least for its genre. It's been discussed a lot how appropriate it was to turn Casca into an infantilized demon magnet for a large part of the story, but Casca herself is definitely top-notch, and even until the latest chapters, the story shows that it did not forget about her. Berserk has been INCREDIBLY careful in using its characters, to the point that Rickert had a hero's journey sneakily unfolding in the background, and it fits naturally. I chose to believe the team knows what it's doing - since a lot was planned out long ago. Furthermore: the story made a point of it, multiple times, that original Casca is an utterly lethal motherfucker almost on the same level as Golden Age Guts, and this Casca is still there. We got to see her murder a bunch of robbers at one point when trauma relapsed, and she demonstrated her skills against some vikings after being brought back, as if to make the point: YES, dear readers, she is still badass, don't you worry, we're not keeping her helpless. There is rarely an utterly pointless scene (if you don't count comic relief). Why give us that scene if she's a passive damsel for the rest of the story? It could easily have been left out (disappointingly so), but there it is, so I believe Casca's skills WILL come into play again. Even if, for now, she's probably a heavily guarded captive in Griffith's castle, since she represents a great danger to him if left unchecked. Oh god she's gonna meet Charlotte. OOOOOOH GOD she's gonna meet Charlotte. And I'm pretty sure it will devastate Charlotte way more than Casca. Could this be what triggers things going to poo poo in Falconia? Griffith has always been the one bringing about his own downfall, this could be multiple of his misdeeds coming back to haunt him...
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Not surprising, unfortunately, especially with the non-Berserk stuff that was published. At this point, we can only be happy that THIS particular brand of hosed-up depictions did not make its way that much into Berserk (...not 100%, unfortunately), and we can only hope the current team steers the hell away from anything like that in the future. Not that Berserk doesn't have enough other stuff in it that, at the very least, merits a warning label. I will keep Berserk in the section of "Recommend with a big BE WARNED only"
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Oh, that's not even HALF of it. Miura also published another short story from Greek-ish mythology that basically destroyed the last thread with how, uh, problematic it was. I'm serious. Read the very first post of this thread. I didn't read THAT one, but I did read Gigantomachia, and it just breaks my heart how hard you have to blend out various things to actually enjoy it as a story. It feels like a hosed-up scifi author who just can't help but interrupt the fascinating speculative fiction with long treaties on how child pornography is no big deal in the enlightened future. But, what is there to say now?  Miura has passed, whatever the guy personally thought cannot harm anyone anymore, Berserk already has enough well-known issues which these particular news don't really affect, and the studio he founded should have the chance to be better.I will loving cry if Kouji Mori and the Studio Gaga people defend this, but, really, I want to believe that they'll be better. Also, I doubt this recent Twitter discovery will reach them anyway... Less chance for them to put their foot in their mouth -_-
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Not gonna lie, I kinda approve that the very first thing happening in the new Miura-less chapters is Isma being erased from existence They hopefully have better sense than dive head-first into the worst ideas of the author. They're never going to comment on a decade-old story like this (I think I remember it came to light several times, actually? Not sure if Miura was identified like this before), and while they were probably aware, there's zero chance they will disparage him. Kouji Mori did mention in interviews that the story moving foreward will be more rushed, since they want to add as little as possible to what was planned and discussed with the original author. That, hopefully (sure lots of "hopefully" in this, huh?), will mean it focuses on what people actually like about Berserk, even if those parts struggle to keep up the quality. I refuse to believe Berserk cannot drop those elements.
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While it remains to be seen where things are going, I think this chapter is a pretty good sign - Casca is not completely passive or resigned, goes Rules of Nature on guy, and admittedly got an absolutely amazing dress - Griffith doesn't bother to be a creep at Casca - she's safely locked up, that's all he cares about now; and he's immediately back to lusting after more conquest - Griffith to the East - is that where the assassin fortress is? - Zodd continuing to stand out Zodd is a bit off-model, I would say, he almost looks like a thoughtful Guts from the first dozen chapters. But I'll take a bit of inconsistency here and there. Now, the huge epic fights against Apostel forms, THAT'S what I'm truly waiting for... Can the team deliver the same kind of visceral metal-album-cover vibe? To me, the fights of Berserk are one of the most stand-out marks of quality; they are ridiculous and epic, every impact seems to shatter the page it's on, it presents eldritch abominations fantastically, and above all, it's almost unexpectedly clever. Too many artists deliver weak fights that look cool, but there is no substance beneath it; things happen for no reason, nobody deserves an action, it does not tie into the characters, it does not feel justified or earned. For what should be a series that could coast by on HUGE SWORDS HUGE DEMONS HUGE GORE, it's almost weirdly intricate. So, guess we'll see. I really hope this'll be good.
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unknown butthole posted:Was that the Kushan capital on the last page? I never thought we'd see so much of the Kushan empire. I think it is! Given how, with some small exceptions, we've mostly been shown the Kushans as evil dead-eyed demon worshippers, it'd be nice to get some impression of their culture when it isn't a demonic hyper wizard ruling their expansionist empire. So far it's only been Silat, his followers, that one defecting general, and Daiba who have been anywhere close to being humanized, with the latter of course being a huge war criminal and whatnot. It'd be nice to have a better perspective. It's probably not going to be a long stay, though.
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