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rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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I really love Behind the Bastards, It Could Happen Here, and Worst Year Ever. I also listen to Even More News. I'm a fan.

I want an episode on the Semblers, Straight Inc., and D.A.R.E., because I think Robert would do the proper research to fully explore the story.

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rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Firstscion posted:

If your not already listening to knowledge fight you should be.

I don’t know if I can take that much direct Alex Jones. It’s the same reason I keep wanting to listen to QAnon Anonymous and getting turned off.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Kagon posted:

I’ve really enjoyed your podcast Robert- Behind the Bastards was one of the original ones that got me into podcasts in general. Is there a chance there will be more seasons of It Could Happen Here on other topics?

Or just more in-depth talks on specific things like campaigns of destruction on food supplies, general warlording, and other things you saw out in the world, and how you think they could happen in the US?

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Droyer posted:

behindthebastards.com redirects to https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/ for me, and I can't find any bibliography there.

Click on an episode. It will expand into the episode in a player with the bibliography underneath.

Edit: some part 2s might have stuff listed under part 1. I think black panthers part 2 is like that.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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I’m not saying they need a behind the bastards episode yet, but the pod save guys being on the board of the company that funded shadow, the company that just hosed up the Iowa caucus results seems shady and fucky. Especially since they promoted that company on air without disclosing their ties.

Mostly I wanted to bellyache about them.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Bust Rodd posted:

I don’t watch TV or listen to the radio. The only media I consume is Hulu/Netflix/Podcasts and as a result I hear advertisements maybe 3-4 times a week at most unless they are playing public ally like the TV at a bar. I have no sense of what ads are playing when or where and I will never, ever go back to commercials.

Same. I've been watching some pro rasslin' lately on TNT and seeing commercials is terrible. I forgot the stilted, awkward way that people talk in ads, and being reintroduced to that work is awful.

That basketball ad wouldn't be quite so bad for me if I haven't been hearing it all the goddamned time, sometimes twice in a row. That's the one that really gets me. Hearing it repeat was confusing as hell.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

I would just like to note that Robert casually dropping "Oh by the way Ace of Base were probably Nazis" like that was poo poo we all knew or at least were mentally prepared for was cruel

An all white, blonde, blue eyed group of Europeans? I feel very comfortable making an assumption that at least one person in that group has questionable ideas about minorities.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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GunFondler42069 posted:

I'd love to talk more about Hams, but I've got no idea how to do it as an organized show. I feel like it'd wind up requiring as much research as the regular work and I'd have real trouble writing 10 pages about the Tyrant of Badab while Steven Miller is right there

I know I for one would listen to you get drunk and high and ramble about whatever the gently caress you want for an hour or two without structure

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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GunFondler42069 posted:

People make logical leaps about me that are real interesting. The most recent one I encountered was somebody in the subreddit claiming I'd never cover Jeff Bezos because iHeart/ClearChannel wouldn't let me. They said it with such certainty as if there's not a live episode that includes me urging a crowd of human beings to buy bolt cutters and break into Bezos's house.

(For the record I haven't covered Bezos yet because I'm pretty sure he's boring as a person and I just haven't gotten around to figuring out how to highlight his awfulness in an entertaining way.)

What is your connection to ClearChannel/iHeart, if you don’t mind the question? Does your podcast/the rest of the podcasts on the network have much in the way of oversight by them? How strict are things behind the scenes? Is it still sort of a Wild West type thing, or more controlled?

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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That’s really fuckin’ cool.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Gonna be eager to hear reports about this once/if things settle down enough for a regular episode

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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BigDave posted:

Harris and Klebold are only interesting because of the stupidity and how people emulate them for the wrong reason.

The more interesting part of the story about columbine is how totally the cops failed in the lead up to it

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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I've got my fingers crossed that Robert is gonna head to the Seattle autonomous zone for some interviewin' before the police start trying to step on them

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Bust Rodd posted:

Not gonna lie, I don’t think I could stomach a podcast that was just “here’s the most hosed up stuff the cops ever did” because just headlines from Philly alone would make you cry.

I remember when I was in school in 2007, a big story broke out that this ‘hero’ cop from northwest Philly that had been assaulting a girl he’d met at the park for like 9 years, starting from when she was 14 to 23 until she finally committed suicide. That was one of Philly’s best cops.

Personally I think it’s probably easier to report on war criminals and genocidal dictators and their crimes, which are so massive that the mind bends trying to accommodate and house them. Cops commit lovely acts on a personal level, handpicking individual human lives to ruin, so any one episode of “bad cops” or whatever would probably hurt for more to listen to.

It looks like it’s going to be a generalized history of policing, and will likely take pit stops in especially lovely time periods, like the dollop series on the LAPD.

I expect some early police follies, then a bunch of stuff on policing becoming more regimented and figured out and lovely. Hopefully some nice dives into how bad and lovely various types of CSI science have been, like blood spatter and hair testing being based on little scientific validity.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Chairman Capone posted:

Any hypothetical "Bastards of SA" episode could be lightened by mentioning some of the less bastardy and more merely assholery things the site is responsible for, like sending Pitbull to Alaska or getting Smash Mouth to eat two dozen eggs cooked by Guy Fieri.

More like getting a hapless nerd to eat one single egg while Smash Mouth pranced around the stage like a jackass

Smash mouth didn’t eat the eggs :mad:

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Bored As gently caress posted:

It limits collateral damage. It's actually a really good invention, and it would've been great if we'd had it 20 years ago, because a lot of innocent people - men, women, children - would still be alive today if we had it then.

Does it at all work or does it just hit the ground and fill the air with shrapnel

Because if it actually works the way they claim, cool, though I personally would just flick the right control stick towards the incoming attack and parry it, then use my slow motion attack to cut it into pieces like a robosamurai

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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BigDave posted:

Am I nuts, or did Robert kinda blame the Columbine massacre on the campus police not stopping Harris and Klebold?

And then criticizes the presence of police on school campuses?

The regular police. They had been alerted to Harris and jlebold by a number of smaller cases and they kept ignoring it, until columbine.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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BigDave posted:

Am I nuts, or did Robert kinda blame the Columbine massacre on the campus police not stopping Harris and Klebold?

And then criticizes the presence of police on school campuses?

My bad, I got to this part of the episode. He’s more saying that the cops on campus do no good, so why increase the amount of them?

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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I just wish the ad software would put different ads

This is literally the only case where I ever hear ads anymore and I'll allow it specifically for the podcasts I like, but come on, just serve me two different ads, not the same one twice

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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I am always down for ads for new podcasts. Sure, a lot of the podcasts don't live up to good ads, like anything that Parcast puts out, but I am always on the hunt for new ones. I wish there were a way I could just tell the ad companies I'll take whatever podcast ads they've got.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Yeah, check out Robert’s twitter, some incredible poo poo has been happening and he has been pressing the gently caress out of it.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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While he isn’t worse than any of the folk already named who all should go first, Barry Goldwater would be a good candidate. Or William F. Buckley. Or ayn Rand.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

if feel loopering goldwater wouldn't do much outside have some other nut be the goldwater. Nixon or Reagan would be good qualifiers because they kicked his poo poo off. probably one of the proto nazis or hitler himself. maybe mao once he started become way more of an open monster. rand would be good but she indirectly gave me bioshock 1 and her poo poo is mostly mocked now even by chuds. other loopered folks would be john wilks booth, charles guitue and maybe lee Harvey Oswald.

Goldwater still was the one to lay the groundwork for Nixon’s southern strategy. Dude was pretty important to how poo poo got lovely, imo. That’s why I said he wasn’t number one with a bullet.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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I gotta say, iHeartRadio has gotten way better than the old clearchannel days, they're not so nakedly evil anymore

I will take it, they make podcasts that make me feel marginally less awful, they get a pass from me at least

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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I especially like two results of the ad breaks in this podcast:

1, the bumper music plays, then immediately plays the "back from break" music

2, it goes to an ad for one of Roberts own other podcasts or that therapy service but it still sounds like Robert is just telling me about his opinion on something

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

i am curious if we will get an episode or two or so on the capital capitol coup. like it sounds like house reps and senators and such may have legit helped plan this poo poo beyond the "cruz and trump screamed poo poo until it bit their faces" type deal. i guess we will see.

I will say that it feels like the kind of story that deserves time to have investigative journalism and investigative policing take a swing at unravelling all the tangles, before someone properly tells the story.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Hey Robert, I like you reading it out loud and all, but I don't think I'd be alone in buying and reading your novel. Is there a way to? If not, you should change that. Let me give you my money.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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I still like buying books. Even if the proceeds would then be donated to said charity.

I like books. It will be cool to read this when it gets dropped.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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MonsieurChoc posted:

Yeah gently caress it the gross imperialistic poo poo is too much for me, unsuscribed.

What did Robert say that set you off

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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gh0stpinballa posted:

i was asked a direct question by the person for whom this thread was created, and we had ourselves a respectful discussion to better understand where the other is coming from. go bellyache elsewhere.

Some of the folks involved were very respectful and thoughtful

Some folks were shitposting and belittling people for daring to either not know things or think differently

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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GunFondler42069 posted:

I'm a huge CRKT fan, so I recommend this in particular as probably my favorite store-bought machete:

https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CR3100/columbia-river-3100-mah-chete-machete-fixed-1075-carbon-blade-walnut-wood-handle-nylon-sheath

It's not stamped steel, so it is good for a variety of tasks. It's a bit softer than I tend to like, I've bent the tip on mine doing pry bar stuff, but it's great for brush clearing and honestly the best knife for batoning wood I've ever bought.

do you have a preferred brand of bolt cutters to recommend

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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xtal posted:

I joined this thread late so maybe this is a dumb question but do people know his username here?

He’s been posting on this page. GunFondler69420. He was a lurker and a shitposter way back when under some other name but who gives a gently caress, as long as he wasn’t, like, Hakan or Bigpeeler.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Robert, I have a really important question for you.

Will you rate my knife?


rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Everett False posted:

PFT having to go get his knife was absolute gold.

100%. That's why I wanted to do some knifeposting. Everybody show off your knives and machetes!

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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I wish Wesley Willis had gotten a chance to headbutt Rush.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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HashtagGirlboss posted:

Yeah I wasn't really including posting when I said that for a variety of reasons, primary being that he's a media personality who I am sure is still "in character" to a degree when posting, in the same way that I'm in character when I interact with my clients at work. I've never encountered the guy in real life or had an actual conversation with him, so I'm making clear what I'm basing my judgement on and what gaps there are in my observations

HashtagGirlboss posted:

yeah, I went back and forth with whether or not to bring it up in that thread because I'm not really interested in stirring up drama, but at the same time I am curious if other people notice just how monumentally self important the guy is

I've noticed how monumentally selfimportant you seem to be, when you decided in CSPAM to come gently caress with us for daring to like his podcast

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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HashtagGirlboss posted:

I’m intensely disinterested in cross forum drama and if I was looking to rile people up I would have been far less careful with how I phrased things. I’m interested in the media personality this thread is about and a thing he said and how it plays into my observations over time consuming the media he produces. So chill with the victim narrative please and engage or ignore me

You came in here already having your mind made up and already having an axe to grind about the dude, having freshly come from a conversation wherein we are referring to as "sycophants"

What exactly do you want other than for Robert himself to weigh in, or for us to say "You sound like a person who did stuff during the protests. You are very interesting. Here is a cookie."? Armchair psychoanalysis of a person you have a parasocial relationship is bullshit, so analyzing what exactly drives Robert to go do journalism would be an exercise in jerking off. You sound like you did interesting things during the protests. Very cool. But gently caress off with this innocent routine.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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I am too normie and too high to be able to cut through all the layers of irony and recursive humor surrounding that entire podcast zone and understand what the gently caress the deal is with cum town vs red scare vs chapo trap house

Even that neat podcast series “blowback” I started listening to starts to dip into chapo territory and I was wondering if I’d need to pull the ripcord to avoid having to figure out all this poo poo

The greater worst year ever/even more news/behind the bastards podcast zone is as deep as I choose to get into Injoke-heavy territory

I don’t even know why I’m detailing all this since nobody asked but my long story short is cum town is confusing

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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AceOfFlames posted:

It’s always weird to hear complaints about the ads as someone listening from outside the US because all the ads I get are for other iHeart shows. I never get any of those sweet products and services* Robert wants me to have. Not even the Raytheon Knife Missile. :(

*Would a podcast be considered a “service”?

Same, actually. I don’t know if it’s that I have turned off targeted ads, but I basically only get podcasts, typically other iheart or Robert-adjacent podcasts.

I only listened to an episode of two of blowback and was liking it, but anytime I’ve tried listening to chapo stuff, it just becomes this wall of irony and jokes that can read as straight faced and it just gets exhausting. As does engaging with chapo fans.

I’ll go back and listen to more of Blowback, especially as I get into my workweek next week. Thanks for the recs to keep going, y’all.

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rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

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Bust Rodd posted:

I would challenge anyone ITT who uses “irony” to try and explain away what you don’t like about certain podcasts to actually explain what you think that word means or how it applies.

There’s this weird tendency on the left, especially among Biden-style progressives, to stylize or sensationalize anyone who uses comedy as “ironic” or “irony-poisoned” in a way to delegitimize the socialist ideas that serve as the undercurrent. The right/conservatives don’t give a gently caress about “irony-poisoning” it’s exclusively the perview of leftist infighting, something Warren-stans and K-Hive and Biden Boosters like to throw at anyone whose more radical or progressive than they are.

There is nothing, absolutely nothing, “ironic” about Chapo. They are sincere in their position, they present their takes as plainly as can be, they believe in what they are saying, and using “irony” in this incredibly popularized-but-still-incorrect way only works to try and paint their ideas as jokes or insincere. Employing humor as a vehicle to communicate your ideas doesn’t mean you don’t really believe in them.

Another way of thinking about it: How is Chapo Trap House “ironic” in any way that Cody and Robert aren’t? Wouldn’t you categorize all of Robert’s jokes about “the fine products at Raytheon” or the glib way he laughs off history’s greatest horror or Cody’s... I mean if you hate “Irony” than how can you stand to watch even one second of Even More News?

Not trying to flame anyone or start a fight, I just think people throw that word around because they read it online and assume it’s part of the discourse now but I feel like no one ever stops to consider what they are saying when they say it.

Ok, forget the dreaded i-word, and whatever this strawman argument of me not being progressive enough to appreciate Chapo, or whatever.

I'll just reiterate this point

rotinaj posted:

it just gets exhausting. As does engaging with chapo fans.

I don't begrudge the Chapo guys their viewpoints, and typically agree with them. But it always seems like anytime I try to listen to Chapo episodes, or chat about Chapo with other people, it winds up like this. I'm not even saying that I am mad the podcast exists or anything, but even casually dipping into Chapo, it seems, requires me to write a three paragraph essay explaining the usage of Irony in Leftist Comedy or whatever the gently caress this is.

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