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Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

i don't like agile much but every part of it is designed around making sure it is recognized that things are hosed early, which is indeed the most important part of a software development process.

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Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad
Fun Shoe
Agile is when somebody asked you "hey, can you estimate the next 6 months worth of tasks?" and then some fucken project manager spends a week writing it all up in JIRA

And then you come back to the sprint board board every two weeks and you're like "what the gently caress does that even mean" for half of the tasks and the ones you do recognize increasingly don't reflect reality as the project goes on

Also you estimated your story points wrong because you're a piece of poo poo so now management really wants to discuss your velocity

Eventually you realize nobody's actually checking on whether you got your work done, so you just say "sure let's close that task out" and your development landscape is a hell of half-working "features"

lather rinse repeat

Poopernickel fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Nov 22, 2019

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

one of the worst things a lot of places do is not have a dedicated scrum master, they just add that responsibility onto the team lead or a business analyst and expect them to do it on top of their actual job

jimmyjams
Jan 10, 2001


King Kong of Megadongs
Gobblin' them mega schlongs
Makin' sure they mega long
Stroke' 'em if they mega strong
misread as "cum master"

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Skyl3lazer posted:

Y'all have worked in some bad shops lol

i loving hate this term tho.

Shops sell useful wares.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

jimmyjams posted:

misread as "cum master"

daddy's scrummies

Clockwerk
Apr 6, 2005


agile is a manifestation of god, and only his scrum certified oracles know what he would have us do

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad
Fun Shoe
aw yea scrum all over my face

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



Jonny 290 posted:

i loving hate this term tho.

Shops sell useful wares.

:dudsmile:

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

qirex posted:

one of the worst things a lot of places do is not have a dedicated scrum master, they just add that responsibility onto the team lead or a business analyst and expect them to do it on top of their actual job

or sometimes they make an unlucky programmer do it

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Main Paineframe posted:

or sometimes they make an unlucky programmer do it

or worse, their managers.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
*points to the word on the screen*

“ajeeeelay”

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Main Paineframe posted:

or sometimes they make an unlucky programmer do it

scrum lead rotates among all team members

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

In my government office there was a manager who got incredibly excited about "doing a standup" so she had a meeting to find a time when everyone could standup and then a month later we stood up while she made some announcements and then dismissed us.

pram
Jun 10, 2001
lol

Kempy
Dec 15, 2009

ok gang now lets address some of the blockers we encountered last week and what that meant for your workflow

AtomD
May 3, 2009

Fun Shoe
ok lyle i don't think we pulled being a dorkwad into this sprint so please shut the gently caress up

AtomD
May 3, 2009

Fun Shoe
yeah, see "as a development team, i want to be a dorkwad" is still on the backlog

Willzilla
Aug 16, 2006

Rawr
I too built the lego mars colony, bask in my agility

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

El Mero Mero posted:

In my government office there was a manager who got incredibly excited about "doing a standup" so she had a meeting to find a time when everyone could standup and then a month later we stood up while she made some announcements and then dismissed us.

laffo

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Jonny 290 posted:

i just use 4 column trellos: "someday", "this week", "in progress" and "done". move things from someday to this week once a week, then work out of there.

i am very bad at organizing and any advice past that which i would give you would likely be flawed + cause me to get mocked

but thats a start

same but my four columns are haven’t even started yet, i need to do something more, i am waiting for someone else to take the next step, and done

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


welcome to agile, where the timelines are made up and the requirements don't matter!

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



Powerful Two-Hander posted:

welcome to agile, where the timelines are made up and the requirements don't matter!

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

welcome to agile, where the timelines are made up and the requirements don't matter!

ok but again: this is all software development

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

lol if u panic over a business imposed deadline

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

welcome to agile, where the timelines are made up and the requirements don't matter!

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

welcome to agile, where the timelines are made up and the requirements don't matter!

Kempy
Dec 15, 2009

akadajet posted:

lol if u panic over a business imposed deadline

three months behind schedule is our 'ahead of schedule'

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


Kempy posted:

three months behind schedule is our 'ahead of schedule'

the mythical month-man

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
very rarely does it take me longer than ten minutes to do a prescription and often it’s less than 5 from the time the patient hands it till when I give them the drugs.

agile seems like a slow way to do things

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad
Fun Shoe

echinopsis posted:

t’s less than 5 from the time the patient hands it till when I give them the drugs.

give us the drugs, echi

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003


the America Bernie wants

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

akadajet posted:

the America Bernie wants

go on

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
back in my day we didn’t need prescriptions like some baby asking pretty please for its binky. we’d walk into the apothecary, look the barber in the eye and say “sir i’m hear to buy that bottle of laudnum from you” and he’d sell it to me and i’d thank him for it! then i’d shake his hand before going off to find my fainting couch in the parlor.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
lol ... viagra “almost free”

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

echinopsis posted:

very rarely does it take me longer than ten minutes to do a prescription and often it’s less than 5 from the time the patient hands it till when I give them the drugs.

agile seems like a slow way to do things

imagine if instead of prescribing based on a wealth of information in scientific literature and FDA testing that you just formulated drugs from scratch out of basic reagents with a vague idea of what the end structure should sorta look like, gave the results to patients, and improved on that by ruling out whichever syntheses resulted in deaths.

now, you might say that this is a bad idea, but think of how much worse it would be if you just used one random synth only and it killed everyone!

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe

El Mero Mero posted:

In my government office there was a manager who got incredibly excited about "doing a standup" so she had a meeting to find a time when everyone could standup and then a month later we stood up while she made some announcements and then dismissed us.

dismissed as in "ok go away and do your work now" or dismissed as in fired

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

imagine if instead of prescribing based on a wealth of information in scientific literature and FDA testing that you just formulated drugs from scratch out of basic reagents with a vague idea of what the end structure should sorta look like, gave the results to patients, and improved on that by ruling out whichever syntheses resulted in deaths.

this probably would be a more enjoyable job 🤔

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President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
i need a pill that will give me lots of energy and make me feel happy all the time. which one is that?

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