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Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



echinopsis posted:

idk why u just don’t make a good product rather than focus really hard on making a half rear end middle project

analogies applied to non computer things should be applied extensively

imagine if henry ford had used agile when making ford

making a good software is impossible. agile is about never running out of things to do, so management and customers can believe forever that quality is just over the horizon. with releases you have pesky discontinuities encouraging reflection and hindsight and realizing that this isn’t working, never worked, and never will work

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Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



Doom Mathematic posted:

For serious though the fundamental thing about "agile" is just trying to get everybody involved to confront and internalize the fact that the work is probably going to be done wrong the first time, and large parts of it are going to need doing again. Whereas waterfall bakes in the attractive and fundamentally dumb assumption that once you get to the end you're done and you can stop.

ya like I said. it’s a way to prevent management and users from ever realizing that not just has the software never been good, it will never be good

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



agile is evolutionarily adaptive for software teams and this explains 100% of its success; teams that don’t call themselves agile are more likely to be disbanded. over time, this results in agile taking over the industry and looking like a good idea. any effect on software quality is incidental

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