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I don’t follow x86 processors because I’m not a server jockey or a gamer, but someone told me AMD makes the best CPUs now. imagine my surprise, since the last time I built a pc was also the last time AMD was good. they said something about ripping threads and ryu zen and little baby chips. I know the ‘pos will have the real scoop. is AMD good now? is intel dead? what’s the best computer brain for my sick rig?
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intel has been turning out really small performance gains while asking the same inflated price, amd just caught up on price/performance ratio I think. I have a ryzen it's deece
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Nov 23, 2019 19:48
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iirc their speculative execution implementation wasn't vulnerable to spectre/meltdown to the same extent intel's was so they didn't have to take the performance hit to fix it, while intel did
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threadripper can use ECC memory which makes it better for an HEDT rig than intels poo poo depends on what you’re building the machine for
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Nov 23, 2019 19:54
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pram posted:depends on what you’re building the machine for shitposting, obviously
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Nov 23, 2019 20:12
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buy an ipad op
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infernal machines posted:buy an ipad op
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Nov 23, 2019 20:21
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lol the amd thread in shsc is full of people fighting with fiddly bullshit like last time i built a desktop it was with an Intel haswell processor and it was just "motherboard has right socket and desired features? ram fits? all good" (note: i am not an overclocker) the amd thread on the other hand has people worrying if the technically compatible motherboard will allow the CPU to deliver full stock performance that said if i had to build a desktop today I'd probably go amd, but I'd be grumbling about it
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Nov 23, 2019 21:56
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infernal machines posted:buy an ipad op
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Nov 23, 2019 22:23
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good to see that after all these years the amd mobo situation is still a mess
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Nov 23, 2019 22:43
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The Management posted:good to see that after all these years the amd mobo situation is still a mess It wasn’t back in the day; just get an nforce2. What’s the nf7-s of the current generation?
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the last amd cpu i used was the original sledgehammer opteron. my friend and i were dumbfounded when it completely shithoused his 3GHz P4 compared to mine at 1.8GHz. then it happened to me when he got a socket 479 motherboard that took pentium m’s. he was getting 10%+ more performance than my opteron out of a 1.6GHz chip. ultimately intel did go back to P6 based kit, but at the time we were so confused as to why intel wasn’t making this their flagship to dunk on amd. as opposed to using some hacky chinese motherboard that supported a laptop chip. tldr; intel was dumb in the early 00’s. it’s a miracle that they survived netburst and itanium. more likely their strongarm tactics with oem’s more than acts of god though.
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netburst was not as dumb a screwup as the combo of their 10nm now being half a decade late and their speculative execution leaking information in the stupidest ways possible though.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:netburst was not as dumb a screwup as the combo of their 10nm now being half a decade late and their speculative execution leaking information in the stupidest ways possible though. that’s a lot of processors not being sold. the only thing keeping intel going is the fact that laptop oem’s are forced to buy whatever intel is making at the time and are also slaves to the whims of retail, needing a new model FOR DADS AND GRADS every year.
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Nov 24, 2019 01:13
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im still on literally-day-one sandy bridge, and the only thing i feel like i am missing out on is nvme
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I look at see that modern processor score at least twice what mine but, but I really do wonder how of a bottle neck the processor is. i have a decent enough graphics card, ssds, and 32gb ram. most poo poo works very quickly, idk if I need it to be more instant 🤷♂️ actually just checked passmark and my processor gets about 9,500 and the newer amd processors are getting 47k lmao yeah that’s not just twice as fast
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lomarf
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no matter how fast my work laptop is resharper still makes visual studio suck rear end
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Nov 24, 2019 02:41
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akadajet posted:no matter how fast my work laptop is resharper still makes visual studio suck rear end yeah that's never gonna change
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oh, don't buy mobile amd chips for anything though. they're absolute poo poo and they're only sold in discount-rear end laptops that are absolute garbage.
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I just built a new machine for everything-but-games, replacing an old lovely i5-2380P, an economy grade sandy bridge. Didn't cost too much to put together a 3700X system. Got to buy one of those stupid-fast new nvme drives the stock cooler has  leds all over it, because lol amd. Anyway it was cheap and this thing is a loving beast and I legit feel bad that I'm using it to look at gifs and read green text on a black screentl;dr: amd good? e: I took this picture because I was farting around with a dslr while putting it together 
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Nov 24, 2019 04:57
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the amd heatsink clips are good
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lol the amd thread in shsc is full of people fighting with fiddly bullshit i think at least 80% of the fiddly bullshit in that thread are ultra-nerds obsessed with tweaking and loving around with poo poo. because these new chips don't really overclock at all (nothing wrong with this imo), that leaves them with screwing around endlessly with memory settings. i got a 3700x and all i did was set the bios to use xmp for the ram, tweaked the fan curve, and stopped giving a poo poo.
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Nov 24, 2019 06:00
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just set it and forget it
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zero fiddling in my build. went into bios once, confirmed the ram timings were already right, and went about shitposting
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SO DEMANDING posted:i think at least 80% of the fiddly bullshit in that thread are ultra-nerds obsessed with tweaking and loving around with poo poo. because these new chips don't really overclock at all (nothing wrong with this imo), that leaves them with screwing around endlessly with memory settings. i was reading that thread and suggested that overclocking memory wasn't worth bothering, and a bunch of regulars with blingee memory and watercooled bespoke computers with huge graphics cards got real mad. you could tell they had veins popping out of their heads over it i notice that asrock finally has mATX and ITX boards with thunderbolt 3, which is cool - i don't need any new computers at the moment but i think i'll get an amd next
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Broken Machine posted:overclocking memory
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i had to underclock the 32gb i brought from aliexpress to get my machine to post lmao
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trusting aliexpress RAM to work. Good poo poo  
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Nov 24, 2019 08:40
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it was a gamble, for sure, but it was like a hundred and twenty bucks for thirty two gigs. try getting that at pbtech
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Nov 24, 2019 08:48
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just set up a trademe alert duh
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Nov 24, 2019 09:35
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trademe has the absolute worst user experience of any trading website there is
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Craigslist is objectively the worst and sues third parties who try to put a better interface over it
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Broken Machine posted:i was reading that thread and suggested that overclocking memory wasn't worth bothering, and a bunch of regulars with blingee memory and watercooled bespoke computers with huge graphics cards got real mad. you could tell they had veins popping out of their heads over it still trying to recreate the highs of the dire-cheap celeron 300a trivially and unfailingly overclocking 50% gets pretty sad when you're spending nontrivial amounts of time grinding out a 3% advantage by fiddling about with pretty expensive ram.
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i really really hate the cheap gamer aesthetics amd has been going for with ryzen and everything after, who came up with the name threadripper for gods sake it's like they're trying to sell skateboards to 14 year olds, it really puts me off
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what they really need is a letter, then a digit, and then another 4 digits, and then 0-2 letters. none of them with meaning.
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Tankakern posted:i really really hate the cheap gamer aesthetics amd has been going for with ryzen and everything after, who came up with the name threadripper for gods sake there's way more important things to care about my man
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Tankakern posted:i really really hate the cheap gamer aesthetics amd has been going for with ryzen and everything after, who came up with the name threadripper for gods sake it's pretty clear that ~*gamerz*~ are their primary market because they couldn't even be bothered to try and boot a remotely modern linux distro on them to see that it didn't work because their rdrand implementation was hosed up code:
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