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The Irishman or, I HEARD YOU PAINT HOUSES Fresh off being harangued by a bunch of nerds, Martin Scorsese has found time to take Netflix for all they're worth with his new crime epic The Irishman, his first film since 1995 to feature the dream team of Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci, and his first to feature the third in the holy trinity of wiseguy actors, Al Pacino. It's the biggest theatrical rollout for a Netflix film yet, despite being three and a half hours with no intermission. It's also his best movie since, I dunno, The Departed probably? Elegaic and sad in a way his previous crime pictures aren't. Plus it puts forth a theory for who killed Jimmy Hoffa and scolds all the young people in the audience for not knowing who he is. Oh, it also features some computer de-aging of all the 70+ actors that my girlfriend found so distracting it took her out of the movie completely but I thought was only annoying for the first five minutes or so. Ray Romano is weirdly good in this and Action Bronson has a hilarious cameo. What do y'all think?
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Nov 26, 2019 19:23
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It's absolutely his best movie since Silence
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Nov 26, 2019 20:29
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medium-hot take: Silence was a misfire
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Nov 26, 2019 20:31
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Bad take. Anyway, The Irishman is indeed phenomenal. I recommend seeing it in the theater if you get a chance, it flies by despite the runtime and everyone is delivering on fire performances.
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Nov 26, 2019 20:55
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My hot take is that you should stand in solidarity with most of the rest of the World that isn't getting a theatrical release, and NOT see The Irishman in a theater. If you saw it already, then consider yourself on the List, and know that a reeducation camp awaits you in the coming Revolution. (Also Silence is great)
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Nov 26, 2019 21:05
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TrixRabbi posted:Bad take. more like bad accents, of which that movie has many
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Nov 26, 2019 21:06
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I don't have netflix because gently caress em but i won't lie, i absolutely could not make it thru the Irishman in theaters without taking a piss, so who's to say whether it's bad
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Nov 26, 2019 21:07
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With Silence you get to see the difference between good actors(Liam Neeson and Ciaran Hinds) and tryhard actors(Andrew Garfield and Adam Driver). Good actors never waste time putting stupid accents.
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Nov 26, 2019 21:16
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Electronico6 posted:With Silence you get to see the difference between good actors(Liam Neeson and Ciaran Hinds) and tryhard actors(Andrew Garfield and Adam Driver). Good actors never waste time putting stupid accents. as someone who coincidentally just watched K-19: The Widowmaker, I have some bad news for you about Liam Neeson
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Nov 26, 2019 21:27
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That was Harrison Ford's idea, and Neeson was just showing support for a struggling actor.
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Nov 26, 2019 22:06
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Me in the first half: wow al pacino hasn't been this good in years Me in the second half: wow al pacino has never been this good Movie good, but felt it's length hard.
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Nov 27, 2019 00:31
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Pacino's amazing. He absolutely nails Hoffa as this charismatic but also highly strung type-A personality (if that means anything). The film can partly be read as the tragedy of the American labor movement. But also you see Scorsese focusing on aging and mortality and the realization that all of this is temporary, whether it's taken suddenly or slowly slips away.
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Nov 27, 2019 07:04
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Goddamn, this was loving amazing. The way the film builds such a sense of lived-in history that sort of rushed by me without realizing, until it all accumulated at the end like a ton of bricks and the weight of time just crushed me. Schoonmaker deserves every award, the pacing of the film is so crucial to its greatness; it manages to make three-and-a-half hours slip by right up until it decides it wants to suffocate you. It's so funereal, the way that even the glory days feel like a fantasy at best, usually portrayed with a melancholy matter-of-factness that only underlines how absolutely sad and empty and hosed these guys and their lives all are. The way Scorsese introduces each new mob figure with their date and cause of death is brutal. Saw it twice in theaters and would watch it again right now if I didn't have work in the morning. Also, Pacino is getting a ton of attention (and rightly so!), but it was Pesci that blew me away here. So commanding, but so incredibly understated. Dude barely ever speaks above a murmur.
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Nov 27, 2019 09:44
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Great movie, probably the most tragic and unglamorous look at mafia life in a long time. Scorsese doesn't mess around when it comes to showing the banality of the terrible actions and choices that the people here make - there is no dressing up how they choose to take somebody out, it's a casual and easy process; they get more excited and emotional about stealing beef from a truck. Which made the tiny bit of emotion expressed by Frank during Hoffa's death feel very tragic, you can really see the last bit of humanity slip away from Frank as he's setting up Jimmy, and the moment where Jimmy realizes what the house is for but doesn't realize why Frank is there, is like a slow moving train even though it happens in a couple of seconds.
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Nov 27, 2019 19:50
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Tumble posted:Great movie, probably the most tragic and unglamorous look at mafia life in a long time. Scorsese doesn't mess around when it comes to showing the banality of the terrible actions and choices that the people here make - there is no dressing up how they choose to take somebody out, it's a casual and easy process; they get more excited and emotional about stealing beef from a truck. Agreed. Good points.
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Nov 27, 2019 21:20
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Just as much as the face the problem seems to be that they didn't CGI De Niro's body and he moves like a stooped over 75 year old man, because that's what he is.
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Nov 27, 2019 22:15
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This was Scorsese's best since Raging Bull easily.
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Nov 28, 2019 00:15
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This was incredibly good and the runtime didn't get to me. I also didn't even notice Domenick Lombardozzi; the makeup in this movie is fantastic.
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Nov 28, 2019 01:09
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Basebf555 posted:Just as much as the face the problem seems to be that they didn't CGI De Niro's body and he moves like a stooped over 75 year old man, because that's what he is. Yeah, that early scene where he has that altercation with the grocery shop owner is a particularly jarring example of this. It's hard the feel the intimidation and menace of the character when the movements he makes seem so stiff. CourtFundedPoster fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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Nov 28, 2019 05:22
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CourtFundedPoster posted:Yeah, that early scene where he has that altercation with the grocery shop owner is a particularly jarring example of this. It's hard the feel the intimidation and menace of the character when the movements he makes seem so stiff. That was the only time it really pulled me out. They had to have noticed how silly that looked. The faces were a lot better than I had feared. I'm wondering how it's going to look in a decade though.
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Nov 28, 2019 05:53
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It was fantastic. The last hour was haunting and the final shot with DeNiro wanting the door open a crack, like Hoffa did in the hotel suite, made me tear up. Also, I'm absolutely going to be one of those douchebags who calls it I Heard You Paint Houses.
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Nov 28, 2019 06:00
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God drat Pesci is good in this. So soft spoken yet you feel the weight behind every word.
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Nov 28, 2019 07:02
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Cacator posted:God drat Pesci is good in this. So soft spoken yet you feel the weight behind every word. Pesci was my favourite performance in the film, but Pacino was also the best he's been in... decades? The conversation between the two of them at Frank's party.
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Nov 28, 2019 07:05
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Weaponized Autism posted:This was incredibly good and the runtime didn't get to me. I also didn't even notice Domenick Lombardozzi; the makeup in this movie is fantastic. I thought it sounded like him but he was so unrecognizable that I got very confused. I also had a "wait, is that Action Bronson? Nah. Yeah?" moment because I just wasn't expecting that. But it's nice to see Marty still has much of the cast of Boardwalk Empire on call to fill out minor roles in his features. What a shame though, that the four De Niro/Pacino collabs are now Godfather II, Heat, The Irishman, and... Righteous Kill. Guess which is the odd one out? it's Godfather II because there aren't any rappers in it Cacator fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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Nov 28, 2019 08:37
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Ariza posted:That was the only time it really pulled me out. They had to have noticed how silly that looked. The faces were a lot better than I had feared. I'm wondering how it's going to look in a decade though. I took it as a reference to the very fake Sonny Corleone beatdown in Godfather I. Really great movie. The last 45 minutes (!) are just a series of gut punches.
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Nov 28, 2019 08:59
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The exchange in the car about the fish between Sally and Chuckie is pretty great.
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Nov 28, 2019 09:52
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I think the biggest gut punch to me was the nurse at the end not even knowing who Hoffa was. This was a really fantastic film I thought, like an Unforgiven-esque last ode from Scorsese on the gangster genre.
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Nov 28, 2019 09:54
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Cacator posted:I thought it sounded like him but he was so unrecognizable that I got very confused. I also had a "wait, is that Action Bronson? Nah. Yeah?" moment because I just wasn't expecting that. But it's nice to see Marty still has much of the cast of Boardwalk Empire on call to fill out minor roles in his features. That's also an outlier because they don't have any scenes together.
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Nov 28, 2019 15:38
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Chuka Umana posted:This was Scorsese's best since Raging Bull easily. I liked this movie a lot but putting it over Goodfellas is a spicy meatball Terra-da-loo! posted:The exchange in the car about the fish between Sally and Chuckie is pretty great. Definitely the funniest part of the movie. Never put a fish in a car. There was a lot of that trademark Scorsese humor in there which was great but Matt Zoller Seitz in his review called the movie “95% comedy” which I thought was weird
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Nov 28, 2019 16:25
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:There was a lot of that trademark Scorsese humor in there which was great but Matt Zoller Seitz in his review called the movie “95% comedy” which I thought was weird Yeah I thought it was way less humorous than Goodfellas or Wolf of Wall Street--intentionally so.
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Nov 28, 2019 16:50
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I liked this movie a lot but putting it over Goodfellas is a spicy meatball Casino is better than Goodfellas, too (realized that as I got older, really).
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Nov 28, 2019 20:24
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Darko posted:Casino is better than Goodfellas, too (realized that as I got older, really). This one I’m at least slightly willing to entertain, Casino is super underrated and I think everyone realizes that as they get older
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Nov 28, 2019 20:29
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I'm really looking forward to Pacino's Hoffa, seeing how he stacks up against Nicholson's and Stalone's.
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Nov 28, 2019 21:02
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Blood Boils posted:I'm really looking forward to Pacino's Hoffa, seeing how he stacks up against Nicholson's and Stalone's. This movie did get me to finally request Hoffa from the library, I’ve slept way too long on seeing Danny DeVito direct Jack Nicholson with a script by David Mamet
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Nov 28, 2019 21:05
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I liked this movie a lot but putting it over Goodfellas is a spicy meatball Goodfellas is more crowd pleasing but its deconstruction of mob life is way too glamorized tbh. This was much more depressing, and that makes it more accurate.
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Nov 28, 2019 23:14
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If you think the more accurate movie is the better one, sure.
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Nov 28, 2019 23:50
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All three of the performances in this are arguably career peaks. Although Deniro’s baby blues freaked me the gently caress out.
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Nov 29, 2019 00:21
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Terra-da-loo! posted:The exchange in the car about the fish between Sally and Chuckie is pretty great. I don't know if it would have worked without Meth Damon
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Nov 29, 2019 00:43
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Slow, but really good. A tragedy in slow motion is how I would describe it. De-aging tech was good, only things I noticed were Bobby D's old man movement mentioned up thread and the scene in the kitchen where Pesci tells him Hoffa is done and they did all they could de Niros eyes looked really weird and inhuman but that was probably the lighting.
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Nov 29, 2019 00:52
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On the big screen I noticed like the first scene or so of the de-aged DeNiro and Pesci and from there I just forgot about it.
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Nov 29, 2019 01:57
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