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RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Jose posted:

extremely antisemitic of you to make the op instead of a jewish poster guavanaut

Oh Jesus it's December already gently caress.

What I was going to post in the last thread before it rebooted: If you wonder why I, as a rich well compensated bastard wants to vote in a labour government and/or posts so goddamn often, go read David Graeber's Bullshit Jobs. I massively identify with the working class boyo who got hosed off with the entire bullshit edifice.

Also, if you're interested in Anti-Semitism go read David Graeber's this:

https://twitter.com/davidgraeber/status/1170032483859148800

Or maybe follow Michael Rosen on twitter, who gave us this wonderful ode to the NHS

quote:

These are the hands
That touch us first
Feel your head
Find the pulse
And make your bed.

These are the hands
That tap your back
Test the skin
Hold your arm
Wheel the bin
Change the bulb
Fix the drip
Pour the jug
Replace your hip.

These are the hands
That fill the bath
Mop the floor
Flick the switch
Soothe the sore
Burn the swabs
Give us a jab
Throw out sharps
Design the lab.

And these are the hands
That stop the leaks
Empty the pan
Wipe the pipes
Carry the can
Clamp the veins
Make the cast
Log the dose
And touch us last.

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RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Labour, considering the impacts of Austerity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjzWcljgdnQ

quote:

When sister has to go to work
She locks me in the room
Has given me a doll
So that I'm not alone

Dark clouds in the sky
I dutifully take my medicine
And wait here in the down bed
Until the sun goes down

And then I tear off the doll's head
Then I tear off the doll's head
Yes, I bite off the doll's neck
I am not doing well

The Tories, glorying in Britain's colonial history and promising to GET BREXIT DONE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pat2c33sbog

(Yes, the tusk is the same one the Polish lad used to stab the terrorist. Großbritannien uber alles)

Labour, considering getting into government:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1200908613553930240?s=20
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1200855519977771019?s=20
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1200355509905317888?s=20
https://twitter.com/GMB_union/status/1200103331097653248?s=20

E: The lib dems reacting to losing because of squirrel stories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5bMOrOD5EM

RockyB fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Dec 1, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Obligatory



Also,




E: Oh right, there's a front page https://www.somethingawful.com/news/fiscally-billionaire/

RockyB fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Dec 1, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Well Marr went harder than I expected, even if he couldn't shut down Johnson's bluster particularly well. I do think he allowed a fair bit too much *But Labour :byodood:* to pass without rebuttal though. Where the hell did this 'Corbyn wants to shut down MI5' thing come from?

Let's go to the hot take mines and get the response from a conservative voter

https://twitter.com/Philj77/status/1201100097204998144

This Is Bad For Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.

https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1201105249941016584

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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I really want to know where that Corbyn will shut down MI5 thing came from. Googling for it there's not even any out of context comments about it that I can find. Did Johnson just make it up whole cloth and the BBC fail to bring him up on it?

We all know Have I Got News For You likes to take a dig at Corbyn at the start of every show. They did it again this week. But there is another topical show out there, with average viewing figures of about 3.5 million people:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1198951179348258816
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1201055079756779520

And I'm sure there another good one from a few weeks back that I can't find now. Also that time when Jezza went on the celebrity version and the rest of the media slated him for sharing a coddled egg recipe.

I'd say most of GoggleBox's 3.5 million audience aren't terminally online or the types to sit and watch Deep, Serious Political Shows. Certainly I only watch it when I'm with my politically disengaged parents. I will laugh my arse off if it's the box wot helps win it.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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quote:

Dead squirrel strategy
This tactic is one used by passionate supporters of a party, usually Labour, rather than parties themselves, which (sensibly) stay well away from it. The trick begins with “extremely online” party supporters creating a “fake news” meme with some ridiculous claim about a politician, then circulating it with a sense of faux outrage among a group of people in on the joke.

The catchier of the memes, such as a claim that Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson enjoys murdering squirrels with a catapult, eventually catch on with regular internet users who believe the story, are outraged by it and share it.

When this goes really well, it leads to journalists (unable to ignore a good viral story) asking the politician about it, and if the politician really screws up, they then deny the viral claim and send it through the mainstream too. Who knows if it wins any votes, but it’s certainly an effective wind-up.

All you "extremely online" party supporters :argh:

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Barry Foster posted:

As irrational as it is I wish people wouldn't say stuff like this

An obscure technicality is unearthed that means Blair never stood down as party leader. A finger on the monkeys paw curls.

E: A wide range on the Graun today, from Nick Cohen doing his best 'both sides are as bad as each other :byodood:' schtick to https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/01/the-corbyn-i-know-is-a-rare-thing-warm-decent-and-interested-in-justice

That last one seems to be getting an insane amount of facebook shares. Way, way more than most Graun articles :getin:

RockyB fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Dec 1, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Halisnacks posted:

So there was some programme on after Marr where they were interviewing a group of people who were politically engaged, had developed opinions on a range of policy issues, and yet were apparently “undecided” about how they would vote.

I can understand how low-information voters who are not engaged with politics could be undecided at this stage in an election, but I find it so hard to fathom that people who follow politics wouldn’t have made their mind up one way or another 11 days out from a hugely consequential election.

This is why canvassing is so important. Having someone physically get up in your face and say they are going to try and make things better.

https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/status/1201145341560721409

In other news, Alistair Campbell apparently doesn't know what a stair lift is. Which somehow doesn't surprise me in the least.

E: Oh, and Jo; has officially come out and said that she's not going to support Jezza :ntlised:ing stuff if Labour get a minority government. What an appalling, squirrel murdering arse.

RockyB fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Dec 1, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Xaerael posted:

I'd like to make the announcement that Lib Dem supported Tory cuts and austerity have finally caused the imminent shut down two major mental health social care projects at my workplace. One that helped non-elderly people with complex mental health problems who literally need someone to help them organise their lives with things like help getting to, and keeping appointments, keeping track of medications, paying bills, food shopping. The other helped Elderly disabled people around the house with cleaning, bills, phone calls, and such.

This is terrible and you have my sympathy. Had something very similar happen to my mum when they shut down the local Surestart centre just leaving her as a rump employee, she ended up quitting because it was so depressing.


Goddamn it's true. First the low effort posting, then the glasses, now this. Jezza is going full troll this election.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/corbyn-s-eye-catching-for-the-many-not-the-few-jacket-made-by-yorkshire-tailor-1-10131198

Also just had a third (third!) lib lies leaflet posted through the front-door. This one repeats the graph that says based on "recent election results" the libs are in second place and Labour fifth. Completely ignoring that it was the EU election, the conservatives who are in power locally were fourth, and the goddamn Brexit party were the actual winners. As in completely 'forgetting' to include those bars. I really, really wish there was some way to do them for misleading information.

For reference I've had nothing from the local tory and a nice visit from my potential Labour MP. Interesting that the libs seem to just be spaffing leaflets constantly but not talking to anyone.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Jesus christ

"The liberal system - letting people with the Jihadi virus out onto YOUR STREETS :byodood:"

gently caress off Farage

E: Green lady saying what the Labour guy should have.

RockyB fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Dec 1, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Lady Demelza posted:

They're all a bit of a charisma-vacuum.

Frankly once again it's Sturgeon and the Green lady (Sian this time, not Caroline) who are coming out the winners. Not a big fan of Burgeon, his way of speaking is a bit off-putting even if he is getting in a few zingers. Like a male version of Jo;

And of course there's the whole anti-zionism thing which will be sending parts of the electorate into a frothing frenzy.

E: Lol what values do you stand for Rishi

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Anti-semitism chat:

Just downloaded this wretched report on which some of the recent claims are based.

https://antisemitism.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Antisemitism-Barometer-2019.pdf

OK I haven't read it in depth but paging through the first 25 pages and skimming the rest, it looks to me that they have defined anti-zionism as anti-semitism. Nowhere do they seem to describe how they identified 'far-left' nor indeed what proportion of the sample were deemed as far-left.

(Am aware that the Campaign Against Anti-semitism were heavily criticized for flawed research in 2015 by the Institute for Jewish Policy Research).

If you want an excellent rebuttal, this has been floating around on twitter lately

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/smoke-without-fire-the-myth-of-a-labour-antisemitism-crisis/

quote:

It has been prominently and persistently asserted that there is a ‘crisis’ of antisemitism in the Labour Party. The charge-sheet comprises three main allegations: that antisemitism in Labour is widespread, that it has become institutionalised, and that elected party leader Jeremy Corbyn is himself an antisemite.

This last claim—a recent invention even in the context of the ‘Labour antisemitism’ campaign—is the most tenuous, flying as it does in the face of Corbyn’s entire documented political career. From April 1977, when he helped organise the defence of Jewish-populated Wood Green from a National Front rally;[1] to the 1980s, when he headed Anti-Fascist Action and was arrested protesting apartheid in South Africa;[2] to June 2015, when he worked with antifascists to prevent a neo-Nazi march on Golders Green;[3] to his first day as Labour Party leader, when he spoke at a demonstration in support of refugees[4]—throughout his political life, Jeremy Corbyn has been a dedicated and principled anti-racist campaigner.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Bobby Deluxe posted:

I did, but I'm ashamed to admit that it went over my head completely. I have no idea about higher finance or the kind of saving schemes that seem like everyday business for the likes of the /r/personalfinance subreddit. I don't even know what dividends are. Sort of all comes across to me as complicated tricks that the rich use to keep themselves rich, and it all kicks along fine as long as nobody tells the proles about it.

The one liner of the dividends thing, which I think is shamefully under-explained by the current Labour campaign:

Labour will equalise tax treatment for income, dividends and capital gains across the board. This will affect some who are on lower incomes, but the overwhelming majority of the changes will fall on the richest in society. Finally, we'll have a truly level playing field.

Labour really shouldn't have gone with '<80k income and you're fine', there isn't enough nuance in the conversation for that not to come across as disingenuous or the Tories to deliberately misinterpret it. They also do a pretty crap job of dissociating themselves from Labour under Blair. You never hear someone come out and say in an interview "We're actually left wing now". Which when the loving conservatives are trying to sell themselves as a clean brush government after three terms ...


I'm trying to find that Ash Sarkar 'And then I was pregnant' tweet in response to a picture of a smouldering McDonnell.

Pound_Coin posted:

We regret to inform you that next weeks gogglebox is cancelled

:argh: You actually made me go check. It's still on for Friday. Be interesting to see if the #MarrCrash is covered or if they dedicate all their politics time to letting people slag off Jihadi virus Farage.

RockyB fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Dec 1, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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kecske posted:

if theres no monarch to confer power to a parliament does the election get abandoned?

Queen is dead, long live the King. Assumption of royal privilege is one of the few things known to travel faster than the speed of light.

quote:

Screens will glow. There will be tweets. At the BBC, the “radio alert transmission system” (Rats), will be activated – a cold war-era alarm designed to withstand an attack on the nation’s infrastructure. Rats, which is also sometimes referred to as “royal about to snuff it”, is a near mythical part of the intricate architecture of ritual and rehearsals for the death of major royal personalities that the BBC has maintained since the 1930s. Most staff have only ever seen it work in tests; many have never seen it work at all. “Whenever there is a strange noise in the newsroom, someone always asks, ‘Is that the Rats?’ Because we don’t know what it sounds like,” one regional reporter told me.

Excited to be posting on the ground floor of the Monarchy Died, Socialism Thrived thread.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Yes monarchy transfer is faster than light.

Hah, you caught that just as I went to edit it in. Thought it was a half remembered pratchett quote.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Wait is this a real photo of Corbyn?

https://twitter.com/humansofthesesh/status/1201263571793055746?s=20

Always thought he's be more of a scotch man.

E: This guardian article is wild

quote:

For people stuck in traffic, or with Heart FM on in the background, there will only be the subtlest of indications, at first, that something is going on. Britain’s commercial radio stations have a network of blue “obit lights”, which is tested once a week and supposed to light up in the event of a national catastrophe. When the news breaks, these lights will start flashing, to alert DJs to switch to the news in the next few minutes and to play inoffensive music in the meantime. Every station, down to hospital radio, has prepared music lists made up of “Mood 2” (sad) or “Mood 1” (saddest) songs to reach for in times of sudden mourning. “If you ever hear Haunted Dancehall (Nursery Remix) by Sabres of Paradise on daytime Radio 1, turn the TV on,” wrote Chris Price, a BBC radio producer, for the Huffington Post in 2011. “Something terrible has just happened.”

RockyB fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Dec 1, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Pesky Splinter posted:

In actual news:
https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1201267256551968774

[e]: Also, good on you and happy birthday Sanford :toot:

Sweeeet, I don't have to spend £5,000 on getting a years train pass anymore. Only £3,500!

The queen thing is obviously going to turn out to be false, again, but lmao at what it says about the state of this country that a couple of squaddies loving around generates a 150,000 tweet shitstorm.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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jaete posted:

The election being held between Christmas and new year would be so perfectly idiotic that I'm now convinced it will happen

I mean think about it, law says 14 days forward, right? Well not necessarily, law can be changed, to make the election take place in January instead, right? ...Except how exactly, since there are no MPs

Beginning to look a lot like Jezzmas



E: 165k tweets now!

RockyB fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Dec 2, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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So close, think just a little more!

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1201294584992677889?s=20

#libdemfightback. And STILL the conservatives are apparently making gains.

Anyway, time to go to bed. Plenty of time to interpret the runes of dead queens in the morning

https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1201276343914250241

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Continuity RCP posted:

Oh god what the hell is that

Gibbo.

Woke up, 500,000 tweets and still no denial in the mainstream media, I'm getting worried now guys

Also I forgot that Sturgeon literally called Trump the devil yesterday. "When you sup with the devil, use a long spoon".

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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kustomkarkommando posted:

BBC Breaking News: Gibbo is full of shite mate remember that time he said dogs can't look up total loving bellend

https://twitter.com/dylcollett/status/1201261720825675777?s=20

Aww, she changed her name away from BBC breaking news and had her blue tick revoked.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/train-fat-cats-receive-12-18827417

quote:

Firms who provide trains for the country’s crumbling rail network have paid out a staggering £1.2billion to shareholders, an investigation has revealed.

The little known companies have links to a tax haven and make a fortune from leasing the rolling stock to train operators across the UK.

The huge payments come as millions of passengers are suffering delays, overcrowding and rocketing rail fares.

Union leaders and passenger groups have blasted the windfall payouts and called for the trains to be taken back into public ownership with the savings then going back into providing a better service.

:ntlised: the fuckers already. Labour are proposing £2billion to cut fares by a third.

quote:

Labour’s shadow transport secretary Andy McDonald has been talking to BBC Radio 5 Live this morning, after the party announced plans to cut rail fares.

Asked to justify plans to use funds from vehicle excise duty which had formerly been earmarked for road building to subsidise cheaper rail fares, McDonald said: “You cannot road-build your way out of a climate crisis.”

RockyB fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Dec 2, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Angepain posted:

The queen should fake her own death every now and then so we all get a holiday. She'd be able to get away with it a few times i think

drat, I was sure she'd let this play out long enough that she could duck The Orange One.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/02/queen-not-dead-rumours-spread-whatsapp-group-11253219/

Also someone stole the Gibbo lied line word for word out of mind, get out of my brainspace.

The tory response to public fear stirred up by a terror attack: Uhm, buy some twitter adverts I guess?

https://twitter.com/TerrorismPolice/status/1200776110780407808?s=19

(This was a promoted tweet)

E: The tories made Brenda talk about 22 of their farcical policies shortly before they shut down parliament. Again.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/queens-speech-2019-full-22-20574877

RockyB fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Dec 2, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1201524156598239233

Yes, yes, don't trust poles and only look at the changes between poles. But when the poles tell you we're doing 7% better than 2017...

E: loving hell, there's no way he isn't going to get sued by Branston

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1201522329421045760

RockyB fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Dec 2, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Tesseraction posted:

Now now lad, Lukasz has shown himself plenty trustworthy

I was talking about the Gibbo kinda poles.

I just can't get over how vicious that railways video is. Ten more days yet, let's see the take on Musk the Great White Electric Car Climate Change Saviour.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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ukle posted:

So the US trade documents leak is likely to have come from Russia, or someone who is working in exactly the same manner.

Oh no, RUSSIA leaked the document Labour were trying to get released via a FOI request anyway :ohdear:

And if Corbyn was in the shadow cabinet he'd be foreign affairs, obviously. Denouncing foreign imperialism is one of his big things

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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So I went and looked it up and http://www.isthequeendead.co.uk is available. Just saying.

Interestingly enough the .com version got bought by someone in the US in March :tinfoil:

Pro-click, send to the appropriate 'journalists' on twitter when they start taking shots at Corbyn:

https://twitter.com/Millar_Colin/status/1201581431371247616



E: Those Loughborough Lads are still at it too

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-british-media-labour-tories-bias-press-polls-a9229161.html

RockyB fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Dec 2, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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CGI Stardust posted:

welcome to the thread, lurker! please accept a creature. normally it'd be a bird, but, well

giant flying red and white squirrel


That is goddamn nightmarish and deserves to die, tbh.

HOW ARE IT'S LIMBS DOING THAT

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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CGI Stardust posted:

please don't be mean. how could you be mean to this face


Look at the goddamn state of that, it's essentially the squirrel form of the clown makeup meme.



I've gone on record before in this thread about my Jo; like hatred of grey squirrels (apple scrumping, tree killing, poor wee birdie slaughtering arseholes that they are). But this makes me doubt my faith in a just and loving god.

E: I feel like I need to remind people: If you catch a grey squirrel you are legally obliged to kill it rather than release it.
EE: Fair point

RockyB fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Dec 2, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Debbie Does Dagon posted:

How many grey squirrels would you have to actually kill before the red squirrels recovered their numbers? Isn't it more realistic to just accept that we have grey squirrels now, and move on

SQuIRReL TruTHerINg :byodame:

quote:

According to some animal rights groups the grey squirrel is a victim of circumstance. They say it has been made a scapegoat for regional red squirrel population extinctions and claim that loss of the reds is caused entirely coincidentally by habitat change. They suggest the true facts are being hidden and scientific research being intentionally misinterpreted.

If so, then this conspiracy must extend to British legal provisions and EU directives both listing the grey squirrel as an invader to be controlled, right?

Well, no – put this argument to the test and you’ll see that the facts actually do stack up against the grey squirrel. The reality is that, while the grey squirrel is an important part of North American forest ecosystems, since being brought to Europe by the Victorians in 1876, the animal has had severe ecological and economic impacts on British woodlands.

Acrobatic and entertaining they may be, but the charge sheet against the grey squirrel is based on hundreds of peer-reviewed research papers. There really is no defence for it.

Greys vs red in Europe
Today there are approximately 2.5m grey squirrels in Britain, but less than 140,000 reds. Grey squirrels out-compete native reds for food and space. They also dig up and consume seed that red squirrels have buried as a winter store. This behaviour reduces red squirrel skeletal growth rates and adult size, and greatly depresses juvenile survival rates too.

In addition, greys harbour infections – including squirrel pox, which can devastate red squirrel populations. They elevate local viral and nematode infection rates, and bring in new parasites, such as Strongyloides robustus, which are picked up by red squirrels.

Occasionally a healthy red squirrel is found with squirrel pox antibodies – some researchers have suggested that this is evidence of them evolving resistance to the pox. Unfortunately, 63% of red squirrels dying from pox have also been found to have this antibody response present and there is no evidence that these antibodies confer immunity. Even if they did, research has also shown that antibodies are gone within 18 months and, irrespective of any resistance, red populations would be replaced by grey via competition anyway.

Woodland damage
Grey squirrels also damage and kill forest trees making it impossible for foresters to grow high-grade hardwood. This means such material is imported instead, bringing with it the risk of new tree pests and pathogens.

Tree damage is most frequently seen on the branches and trunks of oak, beech and maple; bark is stripped by squirrels eager to consume the the sap underneath. Tree stems break or die following stripping, which in turn leads to changes in the structure and species composition of high canopy in amenity woodlands.

Even songbirds are affected by grey squirrels. A recent study gave evidence of negative association between woodland songbird fledging rates and presence of grey squirrels – though it must be noted that this was not observed annually and only seen on some of the sites studied. Earlier studies didn’t find evidence to indicate greys affect bird population, but also didn’t exclude the possibility – even for bird species whose population is increasing overall.

Other animals may be affected by greys too: there has been some suggestion that squirrels compete with dormice for hazel nuts, though more research is needed to confirm the true impact.

Controlling greys
The Wildlife Trust has recently started to recruit 5,000 volunteers to monitor and control grey squirrel populations. However, a look beyond the headlines will reveal thousands of people are already legally trapping and shooting greys across the country to control their numbers. Volunteer groups cull 6,000 grey squirrels per year in the north of England, for example. Even in areas where reds are absent, locals control grey squirrels to protect woodlands or prevent damage to property. This is not some dramatic new approach by the Wildlife Trust, but is simply reinforcing an established national movement.

The eradication of greys from the Welsh isle of Anglesey saw red squirrel numbers increase from 40 to 700 and there are other examples of grey control halting or reversing red squirrel decline. Research has also demonstrated that red squirrels do not prefer conifer to broadleaved habitat and are just as happy in either.

Future control may involve giving the squirrels contraception, but will almost certainly not rely solely on this because of logistical barriers. The pine marten may assist in some landscapes too: one Irish study found a strong negative correlation between pine martens and greys in the woodlands studied. However, the use of trapping and shooting will inevitably continue as part of an integrated national approach.

And so the grey squirrel stands guilty as charged. Their presence has decimated the British countryside since they were introduced from North America, and if we do not continue to control the species, the future for red squirrels and woodland ecosystems will be bleak.
http://theconversation.com/grey-squirrels-are-bad-for-the-british-countryside-full-stop-75470


I had to check the file type on that just to make sure it wasn't a gif that twitches every 30 seconds.

And yup, whooooole lotta lovely racist takes going on in #TrollingTheGuardian

E: Yes, this is literally talking about sterilising the immigrants to protect the natives. No, not #TrollingTheGuardian. Well, probably that too let's be honest

RockyB fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Dec 2, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Gorn Myson posted:

The right doesn't have a sense of humour. They don't even know how to shitpost.

I mean, it's not like the centre are much better

https://twitter.com/haveigotnews/status/1201627973297885191?s=20

Bingo card looking good, only thing I'd suggest is randomising the placements so we can have a proper thread play-along where someone gets to yell BINGO while being subsumed by floods of squirrel chat.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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The funniest party named after Chuka ... so far!

Haven't seen the actual text of this so far, but apparently Labour's disability manifesto is out today. And it's loving over PIPs. :getin:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/03/labour-vows-to-end-prejudice-faced-by-disabled-people-in-uk

quote:

Labour has promised to end what it calls the “hostile environment” for disabled people in the social security system as part of a raft of plans to tackle discrimination.

The party’s disability manifesto, published on Tuesday morning, proposes a range of measures across welfare, public services, transport, housing and jobs to enable disabled people to live independently, be treated with dignity and respect, and participate fully in society.

The manifesto promises to sweep away a hostile environment of prejudice against disabled people it says was promoted by government to justify nine years of austerity cuts, and replace it with system that ends poverty and offers people security and dignity.

The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, said: “The treatment of disabled people by Conservative and Lib Dem governments, from devastating cuts to social security support, to cruel and unnecessary assessments, and a complete failure to address the disability employment gap, should be a source of shame.

“Labour will put right this injustice. We’ll ensure that disabled people get the support they need to lead independent lives and participate fully in society. We are on your side.

“This election is a chance for real change, for a more inclusive, fair and equal society that works for the many, not the few.”

The party promises to scrap universal credit “in the medium-run” and replace it with a new benefits system co-designed by disabled people. Labour says this cannot happen overnight, so it will introduce reforms to soften the process, such as ending the five-week wait for a first payment and removing punitive benefit sanctions.

The Department for Work and Pensions – which the party says has “become a symbol of fear for disabled people” – will be overhauled as part of plans to transform the culture of social security. “Labour will make us as proud of our social security system as we are of the NHS,” the disability manifesto says.

The much-criticised assessments for personal independence payments and employment and support allowance, both currently delivered by private contractors, will be scrapped and replaced with a more responsive system that engages with claimants’ medical evidence.

The manifesto adds: “Labour will work with disabled people’s organisations to develop a replacement to the current assessments based on a personalised, holistic assessment framework that provides each individual with a tailored plan, building on their strengths and addressing barriers.”

It promises to challenge the discrimination faced by disabled people in the workplace, and halve the disability employment gap, which currently means just 51% of disabled people of working age are in work, compared with 81% of non-disabled employees.

Employers would be legally required to close pay gaps – currently disabled people are paid 12% less than non-disabled counterparts – and supported to retain disabled employees.

A government-backed “reasonable adjustments passport” scheme would be introduced to help disabled people move more easily between jobs.

Labour’s approach to change will be driven by disabled people, the manifesto says. “Under Labour, change will not be something that happens to disabled people – it will be something that is led and shaped by them.”



This is very good thank you Jeremy Corbyn

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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"Brown Moses smears me with disinformation" sounds like the shittiest porno title.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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I mean, it's a bit of a stretch to go from 'foreigns may have posted on reddit' to 'RUSSIA :byodood:'.

It could have just been Jezza paying some Lithuanian lad to hack it after the tories redacted everything in the FOI version.

RE: Trumpysemitism, between that and the dodgy focus group it really does feel like c4 has been lent on in the past couple of days.

Could have been worse though:

"Labour anti-semitism? Lemme tell ya, I love what they're doing. It's great. Corbyn's great. We're going to work together great"

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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"Which one of you bastards stole all the toilet paper"

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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All I want is for Jezza to get his Lithuanian guy to hack and release the Russian interference report. Is that so much to ask?

https://twitter.com/maximiliangapes/status/1201779641280802816

L M F A O, huge if true.

Also that Aussie 'sort your poo poo out melts' cartoon is doing huge numbers on the Graun apparently

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...e-for-him-right

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Vlex posted:

It's a parody account

No sorry, this is 2019. Max Gapes is a legitimate source of news now.

E: I mean loving BuzzFeed is :argh:

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Bardeh posted:

The replies to that Swinson tweet are eye opening. Even the meltiest fubpees have now seen entirely through her. She'll resign or be forced out as soon as the election is over.

The Max Gapes extended universe is going hard on selling "senior sources say she' ll resign" and a Chuka leadership bid right now. Seems to be getting traction, I will laugh my arse off this is the second thing after Squirrels that Swinson has to deny in mainstream media.

In other news David Graeber, author of the article "Stop talking about Jews it's dangerous" has a new video out called "Stop loving talking about Jews dick heads you're going to get us all killed by fascists"

https://twitter.com/davidgraeber/status/1201950245804027904

Watch the media ignore it like every other pro-Corbyn Jewish thing.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Shook. As. Fook.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/04/bbc-impartiality-precious-protect-election-coverage

quote:

Those who criticise our election coverage by focusing on a couple of mistakes ignore the overall quality and evenness.

But some people have chosen to ignore all of this and focused instead on a couple of editorial mistakes that they suggest are either emblematic of all our election coverage, or damning evidence of an editorial agenda that favours the Conservative party.

Conspiracy theories are much in vogue these days.

Fran Unsworth is the BBC’s director of news and current affairs

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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Azza Bamboo posted:



Is your campaign a tired old road? Does it throw us under a bus? Is it completely off the rails?

:golfclap: for Labour monorail

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RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


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On the plus side, some people seem to have found hope (or despair - never bet on something you want to happen blah blah)

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/general-election-odds-labour-majority-corbyn-boris-johnson-prediction-a9230871.html

quote:

The chart showed that a Labour majority is scooping up more than one in every five of the bets placed, this despite it being a best priced 25-1 (it probably won’t please the party’s spinners to learn that their slice was coloured lime green

"Over the last 24 hours a Labour majority has been our most popular selection out of all the markets at 20/1,” said Paddy Power’s Lee Price when I raised the issue with him.

Some lovely "Oh god why are people doing this, why can't the proletariat be downtrodden" going on in that article.

That BBC article in the guardian was a desperate response to the previous anti-bbc article. Shows such disdain for the population that they are making the argument that any bias is a conspiracy theory. Hint, institutional bias does not require a shadowy cabal of conspirators.

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