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Jose posted:lol owen jones is on 5 live and its not going well for the BBC It's Nolan - If you've never had the displeasure to listen to his show he wouldnt be out of place on LBC
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OwlFancier posted:If labour end up C&S with the SNP I'd predict extending the franchise to 16, including for the brexit vote, and then another election the minute the SNP vote against anything in the manifesto. I don't think a formal C&S deal will be done in the event of a hung parliament and Labour would probably be allowed to run as a minority on a case by case basis - which does kind of suck with the FTPA but I doubt the other minority parties will be much of a mood to repeal it to allow Labour the chance to call an election a la Wilson to escape minority status.
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RockyB posted:Gibbo. BBC Breaking News: Gibbo is full of shite mate remember that time he said dogs can't look up total loving bellend
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CyberPingu posted:Can someone explain how devolved powers work. E.g how much of Labours awesome plan to save the country would apply to Scotland if the SNP or whoever are in charge? Basically devolved administration's get money representing the increase in public spending in England on area under the devolved competencies of the regional governments but are not bound to spend it according to how it is spent in England - so for example here in NI things like Labours transport and education policies won't apply as these matters are devolved so the executive receives money proportional to how much is being spent in England but can spend it as they see fit.
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I think you can simultaneously believe that the attempt to discredit the leak is being driven to draw a line between Corbyn and Russia for propoganda purposes and also that the providence of the leak does raise some questions (boosted by burner accounts on obscure German language sites simultaneously as being reposted by a user with the same name as the Reddit poster on a conspiracy news site where they also shared an anti-impeachment article with Labour aligned sources saying it was anonymously emailed to them from an address that did not reply) Doesn't say anything about the veracity of the document itself of course
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It's unpatriotic to immediately jump to the CIA when we have our own domestic incompetent spy agency with a history of sticking it's dick into the affairs of other countries imo
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https://twitter.com/UniteunionNI/status/1201592131233730560?s=19 Means we have the Royal College of Nursing (who've started industrial action), Unite, Unison (who where on strike today) and NIPSA (Northern Ireland's largest trade union going on all out strike on the 18th) all teaming up for rolling industrial action all through December over NHS pay.
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PowerBeard posted:We might have you beat for weird Pre-Christmas Elections. Right now in (Southern) Ireland, we are having a Vote of No Confidence for the Housing Minister. If he is voted out, it would lead to a unsupported Government and a General Election... Even if Murphy got non-con FG would probably have huffed and puffed and just put down a confidence motion in the government and got FF to back them on that because Martin has been pretty clear he didnt care about this vote and he doesn't really want an election until after Easter (and any enthusiasm FG had for an early election evaporated with the byelections). In summation Ireland will have an election sometime next year when FF and FG politely agree that maybe they should have a vote now sure it's the done thing
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New Statesmen coming out with their recommendation and breaking with their endorsement of Labour at the last two elections to endorse no party, saying they can't endorse Labour because of Corbyn and anti-semitism, but urge people to vote against Johnson and for... Jess Phillips Some serious brain spiders
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sebzilla posted:So. Technically they can - there's precedent for it with Baldwin's failed Kings Speech in 1924. The Tories have already indicated they would look to table a speech on December 19th and incumbency means they get first crack at it by convention (Brown could have done the same in 2010 if he wanted but ultimate ceded to the Tories to some criticism). Usually people try to avoid actually losing the vote to not look like a total pillock but if Labour goes down the path of no formal agreements let the minority parties do what they want the Tories could justify sticking more closely to convention (for once) as no written agreement for an alternative government is in place.
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Meaney was a stickie for a good while, as in a member of the explicitly Marxist Official Sinn Fein (now the Workers Party) who's president the US tried to extradite for being invovled in smuggling North Korean manufactured counterfeit US bank notes.
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Trickjaw posted:Give a dog a bone, is he good or bad? the workers party where like the default socialist option for dubs so yes meaney is a good lad - the NK thing is just to demonstrate they where proper commies which is a rare thing in ireland
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marktheando posted:Actually James McAvoy is 40 so John Boyega is the only big British acting star under 40 who isn't posh. Daniel Kaluuya and Taron Egerton are other working class actors I can think of who've "made it big" - there's a couple of others who are on the verge like Jack O'Connell and Aneurin Barnard who've picked up awards but haven't quite landed that big role to push them into Hollywood territory yet
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marktheando posted:Oh I assumed Taron Egerton was posh because of his silly name. Can You Tell If These Names Are Posh or Just Welsh
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Angepain posted:I'm currently putting together my personal list of constituencies to keep an eye on during the results, if anyone has any suggestions for constituencies that are interesting or generally might be gained or lost by a thread favourite/enemy/meme let me know. here's my list so far, which may be skewed toward my own narrow interests: The seat to watch in Northern Ireland is definately Belfast North where DUP leader in the commons Nigel Dodds is fighting for his life against Sinn Fein's John Finucane after the SDLP withdrew from the running there (combined SF + SDLP votes here in the last election where within 23 votes of Dodds total). Also likely to see the DUP lose Belfast South and Belfast East remains Alliances best bet to pick up a seat, even though they where 20% behind at the last election the only polling we've got has suggested a surge in support that could flip it to them. Cumulitively that would see the DUP driven out of Belfast where they have steadily held at least one seat since 1979
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joedevola posted:I changed my constituency to North Belfast a few days before the cut off specifically for this reason. Still haven't got my card or even an email to say that it's gone through. Did you do it online or the old way? I was talking to someone who switched to Belfast South whos being grilled for utility bills and other info as a late registration, I think cause he moved between elections and the previous occupant was registered. Might be worth your while going down to the Electoral Office on Church Street to get a straight answer.
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forkboy84 posted:The Guardian has endorsed the Liberals and Lib Dems far more than they've endorsed Labour FYI I mean not really  And the explicitly said vote Labour the last two elections - with some support for tactical lib dem voting in seats where they where second place to the Tories only
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OwlFancier posted:Lol did we really have february and october elections in 1974? Last labour minority government post election back when you could call an election a few months later to get that sweet sweet majority.
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quote:Although that would give Mr Johnson a majority of 28, the poll’s range of possible outcomes stretches from 367 Tory seats to only 311. “Based on the model we cannot rule out a hung parliament,” Anthony Wells, YouGov’s director of political research, said. Too tight to mention
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Is... is this the Independent's "endorsement"quote:How you vote is your choice, but we sympathise with those who will pick a party in an effort to deny Boris Johnson a majority https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/election-final-say-brexit-second-eu-referendum-nhs-a9240966.html
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I see the LibDems voting down a BoJo queens speech, which may very well happen, but refusing to vote actively for a Labour one - probably abstention - meaning Labour would need Lab + SNP + Green + PC (+SDLP+APNI depending what happens) to be greater than Tories + DUP (who wont vote for a Boris government but absolutely aint gonna vote for Corbyn) to get a minority government past its first hurdle. I mean very technically in the case of failure we would immediately go to a new election but considering the giant ticking Brexit clock it's obvious the LibDems are banking on the pressing need to form a government leading to some kind of informateur/formateur variant to lead all party discussions for a limited referendum only programme of government/queens speech
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Charlz Guybon posted:How fast do the results come in? You get a small clutch of seats rushing to declare first before midnight but first proper batch of results about 1am-ish GMT
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I don't vote till like 9pm because I like looking at the turnout figures on the wee board
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Noon turnouts in the high teens - low 20%s in Norn Iron battleground constituencies. Possibly trending to high 60s to low 70s by poll close if previous patterns hold, last election was about 66%
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Fair few in my polling station at 8pm and turnout was sitting at 40% at 5pm which is unseasonably high (I'm in an SF/SDLP hypermarginal so looks like people fired up ate bit)
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Thom12255 posted:Can the Queen vote too? Yes but she doesn't - members of the house of lords are not allowed to though
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gently caress big john is not pleased
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Ill settle for Dodds getting turfed
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Endorph posted:tactical voting is the biggest loving con in the world fptp is in fact bad
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Worst timeline: Tory majority but also Unionists turn out in record number and DUP + UUP vote share increases
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Drone_Fragger posted:Indeed, because once Ireland reunifies, which with Boris's deal it 100% will, they won't exist as a party. lol if you dont think the DUP will still rule over separatist Antrim
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The DUP will control Antrim until all life dies which will probably be like what 20 years tops
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drat Exit poll has Piddock losing her seat
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If you have actually been paying attention to NI politics the loyalists loving despise BoJo with a burning passion that packed out halls with screams of BETRAYAL and promises of widespread civil disobedience - the Tories have leaped up the Unionist poo poo list to levels not seen since the Anglo Irish agreement days and are probably current higher than Fenians and the pope
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Jose posted:why do youthink this matters Chances of restarting devolution significantly increase and Unionists are politically animated like nationalists where in 2017, loyalist pressure on the DUP to distance themselves from the Tories will be sharp. An aggregated unionist voting bloc turning out in higher and higher numbers with a new sense of purpose is a reversal of trends where turnouts are traditionally depressed among working class unionist voters
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Well the election in NI went alright
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jacksbrat posted:The one glimmer of solace. Who knows - there's talks to restart devolution and considering Alliance biting at the DUP in their seats and SF getting some pretty spooky swings out west (losing 8-9% in solid seats and getting obliterated in Foyle) I think there may be some incentive to evade an election in Feb/March which is what is being talked about at the minute. Will see but I'm imagining SF may go a little bit quite on border poll now and focus on devolution must be restored to prevent Tory direct rule for the imminent future.
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