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In our manifesto a week ago, I set out how we must reform human rights laws to shift the balance in favour of our security and intelligence services. Many human rights lawyers attacked this move. They are wrong and the public does not agree with them.

Our laws are constrained, for example, by the "right to private life" which limits surveillance of terrorists and recent court cases have placed unacceptable limits on our intelligence services. From surveillance and operations to sentencing and licensing conditions, we must shift the balance of the whole legal system in a much tougher direction against serious criminals and terrorists.

It concerns me that jeremy Corbyn is setting out plans to weaken our system and make it more difficult for our security services to stop people who want to do us harm. He wants to give more power to human rights lawyers, which would make us less safe.

serious gaylord posted:

I see the BBC has finally caved and let Johnson on Marr instead of having to do an interview with Andrew Neil

jackhunter64 posted:

Compare this to how hosed and dried-out Boris looked on Marr. I think I'll give vegetarianism a go.

Pound_Coin posted:

Those gogglebox clips are going down well and doing numbers.



We regret to inform you that next weeks gogglebox is cancelled

forkboy84 posted:

https://twitter.com/andrew_lilico/status/1201283273189711875?s=20

mila kunis posted:

Wrap it up, Corbyn's a ruskie and the Tories wanting to sell off the NHS is a russian lie

https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/status/1201566025067708417

This poo poo's being boosted by goon hero Brown Moses of all people

Ms Adequate posted:

This whole thing boils my piss but the loving idea that Labour can't pay for their manifesto is creasing me. Not because the manifesto is costed and all, but because the classic attack line against them and indeed any left party, is "But they'll put up your taxeessss!" like maybe you think that's bad but that's where the money comes from ya ding-dongs. Also "I don't know what Labour stand for" hmmm maybe pay the slightest bit of attention?

e; This is the 29th page in this thread.

e2; Arrrghhh imagine wanting to vote Leave because you're hosed off but then considering voting Tory how do brains get this broken

e3; lmao this lass who goes off on Johnson for his loving constant lying and being mad at him for lying even to the Queen (pbuh) and then raising her hand when asked who might vote tory just lmao

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However, when she left via the fire escape she found herself outside in a dead end as the school gates were locked. Rather than trudging back through the packed hall to get out, she pondered her predicament for up to 45 minutes before opting to climb over the fence.

Bikson’s great escape would have stayed secret were it not for a 13-year-old girl who saw the incident at Priory school.

The teenager, who did not wish to be named, said: “I left about an hour early and about half an hour after she [Bikson] left the stage. I came outside and I was about to cycle off and she was behind the gate next to our school canteen which was locked and said, ‘excuse me, can you help me?’ She sounded quite desperate. I said the only way back out is through the auditorium and she said she didn’t want to go back through the auditorium because of everyone. She said ‘they all despise me … and they don’t want me to go back in there’.”

Debbie Does Dagon posted:

Literally a jump for "other"

https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1202331839345676288

Here is the data for anyone interested

https://www.comresglobal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Final-Daily-Telegraph-GE2019-VI-Poll-04c12d19h.pdf

Drone_Fragger posted:

tories showing a 10 point lead on the latest poll. Good bye UK, hello russian kleptocracy...

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Andrew Smith is an 80-year-old former NUM activist who worked at the Mainsforth and Ferryhill pits. He now volunteers at Spennymoor’s mining museum, sometimes assisted byErnie Foster, 81, who was also active in the union. The small museum is an affecting cornucopia of mining memorabilia: there are banners of course, but also detonators, cables and a trophy awarded at the Spennymoor gala pit pony competition in 1956.

Smith views the forthcoming election, and the fraying of loyalty to Labour, with sadness and trepidation. “It makes you angry,” he says. “It makes you frustrated that people who have gone through the times that you went through, are thinking like this. It’s not just the young. It takes a lot to get through to people; to explain what the real problems are. The media don’t help with their bias; people say they don’t like Corbyn. But when you ask them they don’t really know why.”

A December election is not ideal for octogenarian activists: “We’d like to get out leafleting for Labour,” says Smith. “But we’re getting on now.” Foster chips in: “The main thing is that we can’t have that lot in round here – the Tories. That can’t be allowed.”

Coohoolin posted:

I have a favour to ask of T H E H I V E M I N D, I've been googling but I can't seem to find a copy of the cartoon reposted by Neale Hanvey that got him suspended by the SNP for antisemitism, it's supposed to be a George Soros Puppetmaster cartoon, if anyone kens how to find it I'd be grateful, would come in handy having the original.

Chuka Umana posted:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/uks-corbyn-politician-of-choice-for-anti-semites-claims-report/

Gotta love this poo poo, the "Campaign Against Anti-Semitism" has a "study" (which they conveniently started when Corbyn became party leader) where they say that 60% of the far-left holds "one or more antisemitic view" which they stress is actually WORSE than the far right (Nazis you're off the hook). Well what do they consider to be these "antisemitic views?"

Feldegast42 posted:

I've been politically homeless for a very long time

No party matches up with my strongly held political beliefs in restoring the House of Stewart to the English throne

TulliusCicero posted:

Is the Telegraph the one owned by Murdoch?

ro5s posted:

they're shook

Jel Shaker posted:

The last week of the campaign is the most important as this is the time which most people decide who to vote for, so expect propaganda overdrive from the Tory press

Nucleic Acids posted:

They are going all in on the lies.

As an outside observer, what might be some of the better sites to check in terms of things like polling data?

Spangly A posted:

The immigration shite is back with cummings I see

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/MattHancock/status/1203050857769701377

Jose posted:

curious placement and imagine if it was labour investigating 3 candidates for antisemitism

RockyB posted:

Braggart posted:

Look chaps! If I place the ball between my shoulder and my ear – and I'm the goalie, I'm allowed to use my hands to do that – then I can simply walk into the opposing goal!

RockyB posted:

All polls are poo poo but the latest ones have Labour closing the gap, mad motivation for motley canvassers. The Graun?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/07/opinium-poll-tories-15-point-lead-over-labour-four-days-until-election


How the gently caress do the supposedly left wing Guardian end up with the most doomsaying pollsters? I'm am going to laugh in their loving faces come Friday morning.

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Analysis by political correspondent Jonathan Blake

A bit like journalists never reveal their sources, Labour are quite happy to focus on what these documents say rather than where they come from.

If you look at where Reddit's comments leave the discussion, it's both helpful and slightly problematic for Labour.

On the one hand, people are asking "where exactly did you get those documents from?" Remember, they were online in their unredacted form for several weeks before Labour brought them to everyone's attention.

But at the same time, we're still talking about these documents and what Labour claims that they show - that the NHS is up for sale, in their words. Boris Johnson and the Conservatives flatly deny that.

So it's a double-edged sword for Labour.

Angepain posted:

yeah this sums it up about

https://twitter.com/uncooljerk/status/1203354203944554496

Perhaps a hamster posted:

I like the implication of some voters being so undecided they can't even remember who they voted for the minute they get more than a few feet away from the polling station.

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You won’t be surprised to learn that I won’t be voting Tory on Thursday, for much the same reasons that I won’t be spending the day kicking children and pensioners into traffic. It’s depressing to think how many polling stations are in schools, and how many people will vote Conservative after walking past a motivational rainbow. As we saw in Stanley Johnson’s Pinocchio gaffe, there is a problem with our elites programming their traumatised children with the idea that they are born to rule. It becomes almost impossible, as a class, to hide your contempt. It’s difficult to keep lying convincingly about things you’ve convinced yourself your audience are too stupid to notice.

This current iteration of Conservatism, a kind of mutant nationalism that insists all our infrastructure has to be owned by other countries, has nowhere to go but into an asset-stripped, deregulated wasteland. I don’t know how anyone votes for that, or what happens after they do. British people don’t get on well enough to form militia.

I don’t want to end on a note of pessimism. Instead, I’d like to share with you my two favourite quotes. The first, is a really famous one. Kurt Vonnegut asked his adult son what he thought the meaning of life was, and his son replied: “We are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is.” The second is what David Chase, the creator of The Sopranos, said about the ending of the final episode:

“Well, what Tony should have been thinking, I guess, and what we all should be thinking – although we can’t live that way – is that life is really short. And there are good times in it and there are bad times in it. And that we don’t know why we’re here, but we do know that 20 miles up it’s freezing cold, it’s a freezing cold universe, but here we have this thing called love, which is our only defence, really, against all that cold, and that it’s a very brief interval and that, when it’s over, I think you’re probably always blindsided by it.”

Twenty miles up, it’s a freezing cold universe, we only have the human connections we make here, nothing is permanent, and love is our only defence. I suggest we all vote accordingly, and try to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is.

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Charlie Corbett, 20, a first-time voter who has already mailed in his postal ballot, said he had registered only because his parents had pressured him. He stood out for not sharing his fellow students’ enthusiasm for defeating the Tories and Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s drive to “get Brexit done.”

“I want to stay in the E.U.,” he said. “But at this point I’d rather leave than go around another five years in circles. I voted for Boris, he’s the only person who will get this done and that’s all I want at this point. Just to leave and move on.”

RabidWeasel posted:

One of the comments said that Sanders is no. 10 on this list but gently caress if I'm going to click a mail link for any reason. Also apparently in 2016 no. 1 was Obama loving lol

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/BenGoldsmith/status/1203616681404317701?s=19

I loving hate tories.

Chuka Umana posted:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/its-a-brexit-boris-johnson-predicts-british-baby-boom-v93jqmjxp

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In an interview with the Sunday Times, the prime minister claimed that “Cupid’s darts will fly once we get Brexit done” and “romance will bloom across the whole nation”. He said there had been a baby boom “after the Olympics, as I correctly prophesied in a speech in 2012”.

Johnson is fond of such claims. When mayor of London, he claimed the “euphoria” in the wake of Team GB’s success at the 2012 Olympic games had led to a surge in births not seen in the capital since 1967, the year after England won the football World Cup.

Across the UK, the number of babies born in 2013 was down on 2012, so no Olympic baby boom there, according to the Office for National Statistics.

ONS tables for England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland showed there were 812,970 babies born in 2012, the year of the games. The following year – when Johnson’s supposed baby boom would have materialised – the numbers were slightly down to 778,805 in 2013.

So the “paroxyms of joy” that Johnson spoke of after Team GB’s gold medal haul did not lead to a baby boom. In London, the ONS also show a small drop in births – from 134,186 recorded for 2012 to 128,332 for 2013.