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BurgerQuest posted:most of my friends with kids are just loving sick of them being home 24x7 period Dogs and cats are getting maladies because they're not used to someone bothering them for 16 hours a day.
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Apr 29, 2020 02:58
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teacup posted:We have a toddler at home. My wife is a paramedic and I’m still working. We’ve had to request roster juggle arounds and take a bit of leave to sort it out. Yes it’s bad. This is a crazy time. You think you know the advice better. Clearly the Victorian government disagree with their own medical advice. The medical advice in every other state is that opening schools is fine. This is exactly why Andrews said he would consider opening schools in Term 2 - because he was called out on his ridiculous position that schools would stay closed until the end of term 2 no matter what. JBP posted:Just wait two weeks until we are more clear. I'm sorry your personal situation is the way it is, but this is a team effort and I don't think Victoria should be making changes until mid May. Schools should open immediately.
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Apr 29, 2020 02:59
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Tell it to the judge, guy.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:00
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JBP posted:Tell it to the judge, guy. You know, if a medical expert sits outside the consensus, they should be honest about that. Right now, Victoria's top medical expert sits outside the consensus.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:04
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In two weeks the test drive will probably be done and you can have the kid go back one day a week like NSW. I'm very pleased with Victoria's cautious approach. It also sounds like you have a provider problem if what other posters say is correct about special needs.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:07
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JBP posted:In two weeks the test drive will probably be done and you can have the kid go back one day a week like NSW. I'm very pleased with Victoria's cautious approach. It also sounds like you have a provider problem if what other posters say is correct about special needs. It isn't a provider problem. ALL schools are shut down right now. You do realise that schools are rejecting students right now who can't learn from home, right? Like, you understand that's happening at multiple schools, despite what the Government's guidelines are?
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Apr 29, 2020 03:10
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It's straight up untrue to say all other schools in other states are opening. The situation in NSW in particular is a mess, and even if it wasn't, different states have different needs and advice. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that the Chief Health Officer of Victoria has a better understanding of the situation than forums user CS, and is a better source on approximately everything relating to coronavirus. E: not all schools in Victoria are shut down. Source: know a bunch of teachers.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:11
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CelestialScribe posted:It isn't a provider problem. ALL schools are shut down right now. stop touching the poop, you'll feel better for it.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:12
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Whitlam posted:It's straight up untrue to say all other schools in other states are opening. The situation in NSW in particular is a mess, and even if it wasn't, different states have different needs and advice. I know a bunch of teachers too. There are schools right now refusing to take kids who cannot learn from home.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:14
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CelestialScribe posted:It isn't a provider problem. ALL schools are shut down right now. Yes. Doesn't change my post or what the rules are that they seem to be ignoring. Sounds like your beef is with the teachers' union. You're also citing non peer reviewed findings as some kind of hard lock. That's not how it works outside of the prime minister's office.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:14
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JBP posted:Yes. Doesn't change my post or what the rules are that they seem to be ignoring. Sounds like your beef is with the teachers' union. Then why do you think Andrews completely backflipped on his schools position?
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Apr 29, 2020 03:15
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CelestialScribe posted:Then why do you think Andrews completely backflipped on his schools position? I don't know what do the other Facebook commenters think about this backflipflop
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Apr 29, 2020 03:17
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JBP posted:I don't know what do the other Facebook commenters think about this backflipflop Point proven. Andrews changed his position because the best medical advice shows that it is safe to open schools.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:18
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CelestialScribe posted:Point proven. Thanks I did my best, I'm glad you've seen sense. Real answer: It's because situations change. We have less cases than forecast thanks to strident measures being taken. In two weeks little cherub will probably be at school one day a week. Great!
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Apr 29, 2020 03:19
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CelestialScribe posted:I know a bunch of teachers too. There are schools right now refusing to take kids who cannot learn from home. You said, and I quote, CelestialScribe posted:ALL schools are shut down right now. That isn't true.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:19
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JBP posted:Thanks I did my best, I'm glad you've seen sense. Something can't be true one day and then not true the next, when no data has changed. Andrews changed his position literally overnight. Don't insult my son. Whitlam posted:You said, and I quote, Sorry, I thought the post before that insinuated that schools for children with special needs were open, and my point was that specialist schools are closed too.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:20
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CelestialScribe posted:Something can't be true one day and then not true the next. Is this trolling?
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Apr 29, 2020 03:21
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JBP posted:Is this trolling? Andrews said one day that schools would be closed until term 3 because that would be the safest course of action. When no new data had been presented, he then changed that position the very next day. Like, you can just admit that Andrews hosed his position on schools up. It's okay to say he did something wrong.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:22
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CelestialScribe posted:Don't insult my son. lol, not empty quoting this
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Apr 29, 2020 03:22
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CS has well and truly taken the JPB bait today. Get well soon scribey.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:24
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Don't empty quote me or my son ever again
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Apr 29, 2020 03:24
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CelestialScribe posted:Andrews said one day that schools would be closed until term 3 because that would be the safest course of action. He didn't gently caress it up. We assess covid cases every day. If we had lots of cases the position would remain hardline. I think opening schools wholesale will be a fuckup and NSW saw an upswing in cases overnight. Once again sorry about your situation but even if I had a button labelled "open all schools" to help you, I would not.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:25
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Don't empty quote me or my son ever again
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Apr 29, 2020 03:26
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In a way I'm glad NSW are happy to guinea pig themselves for the rest of the nation, if it works great, if it doesn't, at least it wasn't us.
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Apr 29, 2020 03:31
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Yeast posted:In a way I'm glad NSW are happy to guinea pig themselves for the rest of the nation, if it works great, if it doesn't, at least it wasn't us. Pretty much
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Apr 29, 2020 03:35
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Don't empty quote me or my son ever again
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Apr 29, 2020 03:44
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in fairness anything that gets a kid or quite frankly any person away from celestialscirbe is a good thing
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Apr 29, 2020 03:53
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SHALASHASKA HAWKE posted:in fairness anything that gets a kid or quite frankly any person away from celestialscirbe is a good thing A bad post
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SHALASHASKA HAWKE posted:in fairness anything that gets a kid or quite frankly any person away from celestialscirbe is a good thing
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Apr 29, 2020 04:27
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Covid test trip report - they take your blood pressure, temp, heartbeat and ask the same questions the covid app does. However, they test you now anyway. You can show up at the the site and just get tested now (well, some other people did. I don't know what symptoms they had). They make you gag to cough twice which is very unpleasant. They they stick it up your nose twice which was unpleasant in a tickle time of way. I have to wait for 3 days for results and self-isolate in home till then. This is not pleasant for my 2 year old, he's very unhappy. And if I do have it, he'll probably will get it too. And that will be really...unpleasant.
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Apr 29, 2020 04:47
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Comstar posted:Covid test trip report - they take your blood pressure, temp, heartbeat and ask the same questions the covid app does. However, they test you now anyway. You can show up at the the site and just get tested now (well, some other people did. I don't know what symptoms they had). Do you have any symptoms or are you participating in the big test? Hopefully you're all good.
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Comstar posted:Covid test trip report - they take your blood pressure, temp, heartbeat and ask the same questions the covid app does. However, they test you now anyway. You can show up at the the site and just get tested now (well, some other people did. I don't know what symptoms they had). kids are immune the medical experts in this thread said so, that’s why we need to open the schools
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Apr 29, 2020 04:53
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Don't empty quote me or my son ever again
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Apr 29, 2020 04:56
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If Australia can eliminate the virus and just switch to just a border lockdown + quarantine for new arrivals its going to be much better than just bubbling around with 20 or so cases a day and then having a huge spike in a month that shuts down all the schools again anyway. It looks like South Australia and Northern Territory have already eliminated it, Western Australia had only one case.
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Apr 29, 2020 04:56
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Pleasant Friend posted:If Australia can eliminate the virus and just switch to just a border lockdown + quarantine for new arrivals its going to be much better than just bubbling around with 20 or so cases a day and then having a huge spike in a month that shuts down all the schools again anyway. Strong agree. If the choices are between lockdown until June or yoyo between lifting and increasing restrictions starting next week, it's lockdown for me.
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Apr 29, 2020 04:58
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Whitlam posted:Strong agree. If the choices are between lockdown until June or yoyo between lifting and increasing restrictions starting next week, it's lockdown for me. Without doubt. We're in such a uniquely strong position. Almost every other western nation is going to have to go through periods of lockdown and re-open over and over, we might have a real chance of beating it outright.
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Apr 29, 2020 05:01
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Anidav posted:Sometimes I'm too busy! quarantine mafia when States going their own way has really confused the messaging I feel. Here in SA we keep hearing about the restrictions in NSW and Victoria on the news but it's like "what are the exact rules for us?"
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Apr 29, 2020 05:02
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SHALASHASKA HAWKE posted:kids are immune the medical experts in this thread said so, that’s why we need to open the schools Actually qualified medical experts have said it's okay to open schools Love how everyone here is only willing to trust the experts when it comes to conclusions they agree with
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Yes, bias is a part of human nature, well done
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