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fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Welcome to USPol General, Winter of 2020 edition. This is the thread for discussing the US news and politics in general. GreyjoyBastard is the thread IK.

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fool of sound fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jan 31, 2020

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VH4Ever
Oct 1, 2005

by sebmojo
First post. ACAB.

EDIT

Congrats to twice burned ice for the thread title.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Pkay said in the last thread that people can still shoot well with 12lb triggers. Well, just because cops fire off rounds constantly with 12lb triggers doesn't mean their accuracy is improving.

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
excellent thread title

Slowpoke!
Feb 12, 2008

ANIME IS FOR ADULTS
Thread title has me in the festive spirits

OB_Juan
Nov 24, 2004

Not every day is a good day.


Dinosaur Gum
Very good thread title!

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
Hey so Trump is a bad president, just letting you know.

El Burbo
Oct 10, 2012

Tromp

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
I had a post written up about the tragic UPS truck shooting where cops fired 103 rounds and killed the armed robbers, the hostage, and an innocent bystander. I'll just make this short - gently caress those cops, hope they get taken to court. No one deserves to be killed by inaccurate bullets from police with raging boners to fire their handgun, let alone because a truck of STUFF was stolen. It's just loving STUFF.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/UPS/status/1202778926155751426

Doesn't mention the employees name...but knows they would have gotten complaints if they didn't thank the brave coptroops

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
State of america: Cops bad, cop dogs situationally OK but need rescue doggo from popo, Trump bad, all Republicans know how to do is lie, cheat, steal, charge they phone, go to jail and eat hot chip.


Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/UPS/status/1202778926155751426

Doesn't mention the employees name...but knows they would have gotten complaints if they didn't thank the brave coptroops


Literally "we appreciate law enforcement murering our employee"

VH4Ever
Oct 1, 2005

by sebmojo

I doubt they know it. Most they have is "Employee A25F2T67R4" I bet.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
It's prime crime time and I gotta let it snow

Spiffster
Oct 7, 2009

I'm good... I Haven't slept for a solid 83 hours, but yeah... I'm good...


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1202981139155210241?s=21

Gotta deadline tonight Donnie. Gonna keep pissing it away on twitter or actually do something productive?

yeah I know the answer already

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Nice piece of fish posted:

Hey so Trump is a bad president, just letting you know.

If this is true, it changes everything

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1203002830329712641

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
https://twitter.com/jpaceDC/status/1203005108402958336

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
Can someone explain why the extrajudicial killing of rapists in India was relevant to be posted in the last Uspol thread? Was someone actually trying to say "sometimes cops killing people is good, actually?"

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


DrNutt posted:

Can someone explain why the extrajudicial killing of rapists in India was relevant to be posted in the last Uspol thread? Was someone actually trying to say "sometimes cops killing people is good, actually?"

It was a joke but you can whine about it if you like.

https://twitter.com/geneviemerino/status/1202823454178848768

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...



Jesus Christ these writers are lazy.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/UPS/status/1202778926155751426

Doesn't mention the employees name...but knows they would have gotten complaints if they didn't thank the brave coptroops

They may have wanted to wait for family notification, since this was yesterday evening.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

theflyingorc posted:

If this is true, it changes everything

BOOM!

Slowpoke!
Feb 12, 2008

ANIME IS FOR ADULTS

“Saudi Aviation Student”

I am seeing articles saying they were Saudi military training at that base, which feels like it should be several orders of magnitude worse.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/pensacola-naval-base-shooter/index.html

quote:

A member of the Saudi military training at US Naval Air Station in Pensacola is the suspected shooter in today's incident, according to five US defense officials and another person familiar with the investigation.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
Good job FoS.

gently caress the police.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

empty whippet box posted:

Literally "we appreciate law enforcement murering our employee"

The robbers murdered him the moment they took him hostage. It's like the Chechen terrorists who took hostages in Mariinski Theater or at Beslan school.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
2016: Denial
2017: Anger
2018: Bargaining
2019: Despair
2020: Acceptance??? Or maybe just more despair.

Fun times!

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/UPS/status/1202778926155751426

Doesn't mention the employees name...but knows they would have gotten complaints if they didn't thank the brave coptroops

Worse than saying nothing about it. My goodness this sucks rear end

Nenonen posted:

The robbers murdered him the moment they took him hostage. It's like the Chechen terrorists who took hostages in Mariinski Theater or at Beslan school.

Either this is sarcasm or your brain is off the charts bad

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Slowpoke! posted:

“Saudi Aviation Student”

I am seeing articles saying they were Saudi military training at that base, which feels like it should be several orders of magnitude worse.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/pensacola-naval-base-shooter/index.html

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1203011242060845059?s=19

Welp, guess we know the right's narrative

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Tatsuta Age posted:

Worse than saying nothing about it. My goodness this sucks rear end
It's from before they likely knew anything at all about what happened and that the cops are who shot him.

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble



The right loves Saudi Arabia though so the narrative will be the same as white people who do a terrorism whoopsie: "lone wolf"

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/UPS/status/1202778926155751426

Doesn't mention the employees name...but knows they would have gotten complaints if they didn't thank the brave coptroops

I can’t say too much because of work but this is some loving bullshit. I’m so mad.

CaPensiPraxis
Feb 7, 2013

When in france...
Re: being able to see your neighbor's voter registration details, North Carolina allows anyone to look up registration details including home address of anyone registered in NC with only a good guess at their first and last name.

On a whim I looked at all of the administrators of my [former] nursing school, who uniformly register republican. I now know where they all live, too! Creepy.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Hello United States politics.

Killer-of-Lawyers
Apr 22, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Look forward to us invading a random country that isn't Saudi Arabia to stop these Saudi terrorists.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Pick posted:

Hello United States politics.

Hello friend

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Kerning Chameleon posted:

2016: Denial
2017: Anger
2018: Bargaining
2019: Despair
2020: Acceptance??? Or maybe just more despair.

Fun times!
I imagine it’d be similar to Dubya, a nightmare scenario where he gets the popular vote the second time to our absolute horror.

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

theflyingorc posted:

It's from before they likely knew anything at all about what happened and that the cops are who shot him.

There was live video of the shooting. It was extremely obvious that the police officers were acting with reckless disregard for the safety of civilians.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Pants Donkey posted:

I imagine it’d be similar to Dubya, a nightmare scenario where he gets the popular vote the second time to our absolute horror.

I won't :toxx: for much, but I'll :toxx: that he doesn't win the popular vote.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Tatsuta Age posted:

Either this is sarcasm or your brain is off the charts bad

:hmmyes:

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Lightning Knight posted:

I can’t say too much because of work but this is some loving bullshit. I’m so mad.
Yeah UPS high corporate is jam packed with psychopaths, this is not surprising in the least. I would love to vent in all the myriad ways they suck so badly, this is just another poo poo on the pile.

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