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Read that one that conservapedia tried to do a few years ago where they took out any “liberal bias” they could find.
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Icochet posted:Is there a manga version?  Got this at the Book Off in San Diego, shoulda got the New Testament too JD fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Dec 8, 2019 |
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Was fond of the Ignatius study bible in my practicing years. American english ca. 1960 w/plenty of commentary to bridge anachronism. Picked it up as an adult convert, so Ignatius is decent for a noob. Douay-Rheims is the most accurate English translation of St Jerome's latin translation of the actual bible, and what all the most insufferable try-hards I knew would hold up as the way to go, but that poo poo always made me go o_O.
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The Holy Bible isn't for reading by barely literate peasants like us, OP. It's supposed to be read by experts in the Church and communicated to us via sermons, the proper old fashioned way. The printing press is an abomination and a great sin against our Lord.
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Dec 8, 2019 22:33
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Dont Touch ME posted:Don't read any bible. Both the OT and NT are deceptive doctrines, perpetuated by the servants of archons to further to goals of Yaldabaoth. Read the Nag Hammadi instead. 
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Me again. posted:Douay-Rheims is the most accurate English translation of St Jerome's latin translation of the actual bible, and what all the most insufferable try-hards I knew would hold up as the way to go, but that poo poo always made me go o_O. What's funny is that St. Jerome's Vulgate is itself a poor translation of the original texts so as is typical of insufferable try-hards, they zero in on one thing so hard they end up fundamentally hosed.
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I'm gonna say the KJV, because that is the only one accepted by the most hardcore puritan types. I love people who totally lose their poo poo that people would dare even consider a non KJV bible are real bible. https://www.faithinhisblood.org/the-king-james-bible-versus-other-versions.html
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Mooey Cow posted:Just learn Koine Greek and read the original texts. Translations are for nerds. There are no originals hth
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New living translation is the most readable and correct translation I know of
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:What would the Bible equivalent be for that one remix that sounds nothing like the original and goes on for like 5 times as long? The Book of Mormon?
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This one, OP: Then try to track down The Flying House if you want all the New Testament stuff
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I appreciate and am surprised by the useful advice itt i went to goodwill and they had a bunch of bibles so i got a few. OT and NT in 'new living translation' and just NT for 'new international version' and 'the message'. the jerusalem bible sounded sincerely interesting and ill try to find that in the future. regarding the utility of reading the bible - the gospels (the 4 accounts of the life and ministry of jesus christ) are an interesting and widely misunderstood story of spiritual and historical significance with an interesting protagonist. im not reading the bible to become a good person, any more than i watched the last airbender to become a good person. it's a story im interested in and i appreciate that its full of wisdom and time spent experiencing a good story is never wasted im pretty sure im not going to read anything in the bible outside the gospels unless someone can recommend some good books itt
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Mr. Bones posted:Then try to track down The Flying House if you want all the New Testament stuff I remembered watching flying house as a very young child, and for years I thought it was just some weird memory I had gotten mixed up.
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lol the part where jesus is just utterly ripping apart the pharisees is really funny, like when he compares them to a cup that is always pristine on the outside but dirty inside, thats a wonderful and widely applicable burn i do really enjoy the wisdom too and some of it (unsurprisingly) contradictory with how christianity is actually enacted. everyone knows the popular hypocrisies like about charity and forgiveness and love, but something like 'don't swear oaths and vows because simply saying yes or no is enough' isn't one i was familiar with. im glad i got these because i was enjoying what i could get out of the KJV bible but it was just too difficult to turn the sentences into meanings sometimes. ive been reading the NLT one and everything is plainly stated and easy to understand. there's a couple times i can where they somewhat amusingly simplified familiar poetic turns of phrase like "I will make you fishers of men" into "I will show you how to fish for people". The NIV seems to hold a bit more of the poetic phrasing so I'm glad I also have that but am appreciating finding absolutely nothing confusing in the NLT. some of the verses I really like ive looked them up in all three and I have to say im really looking forward to reading 'the message' in full, the paraphrasing is just absolutely full bore in a great way. Take these - NIV posted:“Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. The Message posted:"And don't say anything you don't mean. This counsel is embedded deep in our traditions. You only make things worse when you lay down a smoke screen of pious talk, saying, 'I'll pray for you,' and never doing it, or saying, 'God be with you,' and not meaning it. You don't make your words true by embellishing them with religious lace. In making your speech sound more religious, it becomes less true. Just say 'yes' and 'no.' When you manipulate words to get your own way, you go wrong.
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there's a ton of things that contradict between languages, and the message is really out there. But if you're not careful, your reading is gonna convert you, these books have converted lots of readers, being a goon is certainly no immunity.
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:There are no originals hth Sounds weird but ok 
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I think the paraphrase translations have their place, but I wouldn't ever recommend it as a first go-to for serious Bible study. I think that having to work a a little to get past the language to find the nuggets is part of what makes it rewarding. I enjoy the New King James Version (NKJV), which basically takes the bones of the old KJV translation and just updates the archaic grammar (fun fact- the KJV contains several instances of the word "piss"). I think the prose is quite good for the KJV/NKJV, while I find the NIV rather artless. The English Standard Version (ESV) seems to have really gained popularity over the past decade, I don't own it but it seems to read similar to the NKJV. The New American Standard Bible (NASB) is generally regarded as one of the more word-for-word literal translations. A little clunky, but that's to be expected.
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:there's a ton of things that contradict between languages, and the message is really out there. im already a delusional religious nut, just not specifically christian. im definitely getting into the sentiment and message of the books and looking forward to reading more. becoming more christian is not something im looking to avoid, however my conception of the relationship between humans and divinity is likely going to remain philosophically vedic (hindu). General Dog posted:I think that having to work a a little to get past the language to find the nuggets is part of what makes it rewarding. for me, this is a big no. ive heard this about stuff like lacan and i dont feel it there either. i definitely understand what would be appealing to someone about this approach but it isnt for me. i just want to read something interesting and comprehensible so i can enjoy it, understand it, think about, and build it into my life if i decide to. i already tried reading a KJV bible and i stopped reading because i stopped enjoying it. this NLT bible im enjoying very much. when i was young we'd go to shakespear in the park, and my mom would always buy me cliffs notes for the play and id read them and talk about them with her beforehand so i understood what was going on. i like that approach. General Dog posted:I think the paraphrase translations have their place, but I wouldn't ever recommend it as a first go-to for serious Bible study. im definitely going to read the whole of the NLT gospels before reading 'the message' versions of them. one of the things that interests and excites me about the gospels is hearing the same important and interesting story told in 4 different ways. what excites me about 'the message' is that it looks to be essentially 4 more significantly different iterations of the same story. as someone who really enjoyed the experience of stories in majora's mask playing out in different ways, im looking forward to that. maybe once i actually know the story well ill go back and try the KJV or another literal translation and enjoy the language rather than being blocked and frustrated by it.
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To each his own, it's nice that there are so many choices. Just know that there's a lot middle ground between KJV's "shew thyself and pisseth upon mine wall no more" impenetrability and the straight-up paraphrases.
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Fleetwood Crack posted:The Holy Bible isn't for reading by barely literate peasants like us, OP. It's supposed to be read by experts in the Church and communicated to us via sermons, the proper old fashioned way. The printing press is an abomination and a great sin against our Lord. *Nods agreeably in my thatched roof cottage.
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NRSV is pretty good. I tend to agree with Kierkegaard that approaching a religious book from an academic perspective largely misses the point. He compared the correct emotional frame to approach reading a religious text as like reading a highly personal and passionate love letter addressed specifically to you.
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Who What Now posted:Spoiler alert: Jesus fakes his own death Jesus sold his soul to satan. Judas is our true savior. Catholics literally eat the flesh of jesus every week to keep his unholy regeneration in check.
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ESV, it's a formal translation that so it tries to keep the grammer in order but will err on the side on making sense of that comes out weird. Recommend getting the blueletterbible app and turning on parallel mode. Get a formal translation and a functional translation. If the formal sounds weird or makes no sense glance over and see what it functionally means. I know it's what the Xtreme teen bible category all use but NIV is actually pretty good. So ESV/NIV in parallel works great. Like corruption what corruption? Oh decay.  Also click on a verse and go interlinear for every original word/dictionary/concordance all rolled into Scroll down for everywhere it's used in scripture 
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the bible is way too mainstream, i prefer poo poo that's a bit more underground y'know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRegUuydEUg
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Porn Bible is the best version. Check it out!
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Bible basically started incest porn, it's true
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Listen to the Kanye West version
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got u fam https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Bible-Hip-Hop-Version/dp/1593308000 Amazon posted:The Holy Bible is the greatest true story ever told. It is the word of God. With majesty of language and clarity of thought, The Holy Bible: Hip Hop Version is a grand accomplishment in world literature. This hip hop version of the Holy Bible is both a literary masterpiece and an instant classic. The rap music-influenced wording is easily accessible to current and future generations of Bible readers. From Eminem to Tupac Shakur, from Kanye West to Lil' Wayne, from Chief Keef to Drake, from Nicki Minaj to Jay Z, the hip hop world has become a worldwide cultural phenomenon. The Holy Bible: Hip Hop Version, written by Mark Charles Hardie, reaches out to the entire young generation. It is a must-have for believers of all faiths. The author is the prince of the Chabad-Satmar-Sanz royal dynasty.
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quote:Come tight wit me, jalike I stay tight wit you guys. Da branch no can make fruit if no stay tight wit da vine. Same ting, you guys no can do notting if you guys no stay tight wit me. (John Tell Bout Jesus 15:4)
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