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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

asdf32 posted:

No the main difference is who they think the elite is: government elite vs capitalist elites. They both want to destroy the elites.

Though it’s worth noting that destroying elites is a fantasy. We live in huge, complex, technologically dependent societies that must be run by elites. The point of the political system is to hold the elites accountable (while also not succumbing to mob rule).

without a king, how will one operate a Westphalian nation-state

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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

asdf32 posted:

No I meant the opposite. Killing people, tanking the stock and getting fired is bad business (well in a market economy anyway). It's not clear a popular employee elected socialist CEO would be fired after an indecent like this.

why were those people killed again

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

asdf32 posted:

No you can't. An economy populated with hierarchical organizations has a class of leadership elites that run them.


Lol. Your socialist appeal is "Well billions of people are probably going to die under capitalism too"

that your defense of capitalism is "we will only kill you if it's short term profitable" renders it a pretty good one, not gonna lie

the market says those people's deaths are profitable, asdf. what does your freshly-learned experience with Boeing tell you the market will do to them.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

asdf32 posted:

We can change anything we want. The burden is to make a positive intelligent argument for it. “Everything sucks” isn’t that when we know things can suck a lot worse (Venezuela).


Sorry but this is dumb as poo poo and exactly what I parodied and compared to Libertarians earlier. The idea of the local shop owner and the Fortune 500 CEO colluding to maintain an underclass is hilarious.

Elites are elites. People with power have power. They come in many forms. They’re probably not gas station owners. If you care you need to see all of them. If you want a simplifying ideology to make you feel good stick with the Marxism (Or try out some other crank ideology once and a while).

the market says the deaths of those billions will be more profitable than saving them, asdf32. what does your freshly-learned experience with Boeing tell you the market will do to them.

will your reaction be any different to when Donald Trump got you to agree unconditionally funding concentration camps was a good idea.

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