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Mjolnerd posted:that actually looks... good? Did you buy into the early access? I didn't kickstart it, but I have bought the EA version on Steam. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go back to it when the story mode is complete (and when all five classes are in, but they are now). You can do some mindbendingly kick-rear end things in it. Boardman21 on YouTube is a good starting place both for gameplay and teaching.
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Last Epoch is pretty good for a traditional arpg. It really needs multiplayer to take off and even though they've promised it, they have no timetable for when it's actually coming. Magic Legends is structured a lot more like Destiny. Missions are broken up by overworld activities that include a decent bit of grinding. There's also already way too many currencies which is a cryptic hallmark.
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# ? Feb 15, 2021 19:46 |
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Star Trek Online currently has 20 currencies.
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# ? Feb 15, 2021 20:06 |
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I said come in! posted:Star Trek Online currently has 20 currencies. *Laughs in GW2* Which I think is currently at like 45 or something.
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# ? Feb 15, 2021 20:08 |
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I said come in! posted:Star Trek Online currently has 20 currencies. If you like currencies in your currencies, Cryptic's the developer for you.
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# ? Feb 16, 2021 00:14 |
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Just popping in to say this is looking really good. The devs just released a video on their equipment system, in short gear has swappable mods, if you find a duplicate piece of gear instead of having a dupe piece in your inventory you can swap the mods, there’s different rarities to the gear and the gear is cosmetic. Looking good so far, but then I thought the same about Wolcen too.
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# ? Feb 18, 2021 10:45 |
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ColdIronsBound posted:Just popping in to say this is looking really good. The devs just released a video on their equipment system, in short gear has swappable mods, if you find a duplicate piece of gear instead of having a dupe piece in your inventory you can swap the mods, there’s different rarities to the gear and the gear is cosmetic. This being cryptic, what is the catch / requirements in using this feature? I just picture there being a currency that requires grinding and is limited.
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# ? Feb 18, 2021 18:18 |
how MMO-y is this gonna be
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 00:00 |
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I said come in! posted:This being cryptic, what is the catch / requirements in using this feature? I just picture there being a currency that requires grinding and is limited. If there's any meaningful currency that can be grinded (ground?) then the tryhards will grind it 24/7.
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 00:14 |
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Gynovore posted:If there's any meaningful currency that can be grinded (ground?) then the tryhards will grind it 24/7. Yes, and Cryptic will take advantage of that is what I am trying to say. Their games are designed specifically for that crowd in mind.
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 02:46 |
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eonwe posted:how MMO-y is this gonna be It's more like destiny than a full mmo. There are several overworld maps with public objectives to do broken up by individual missions that can be que'd for individually or with a group. The missions scale up in difficulty as your gear and deck improves. Some of the missions are straight forward diablo rift style missions with a boss arena at the end. Others are sort of timed objective score based maps where you capture points or defend objectives.
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 05:05 |
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If you're familiar with Cryptic's other MMO based on a Wizards of the Coast property, Neverwinter, it's almost certainly going to be the same fundamentals.
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 05:18 |
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I said come in! posted:Yes, and Cryptic will take advantage of that is what I am trying to say. Their games are designed specifically for that crowd in mind. Right. But if Hubert Waddlefarb grinds for 16 hours, that doesn't put money in Cryptic/Perfect World's pockets, unless... A dude posted:If you're familiar with Cryptic's other MMO based on a Wizards of the Coast property, Neverwinter, it's almost certainly going to be the same fundamentals. Exactly. When you hit top level at Neverwinter after a week, progress from then on is 100% gear-based. You can run raids for gear, but the very top gear is crafted. And if the very top gear is +17 platemail, you'll find that crafting it requires 56 units of adamantine, and you also need a Flawless Hammer to craft it, and the hammer must be forged of pure Aspergium, and soaked for a week in gamer girl bathwater, and so forth. All these things cost Astral Diamonds, and all ways to get them are very strictly timegated, except for paying real money. So, at the very top level, the best build for the Magic MMO will require at least three colors, and those will require rare lands to function consistently, and 'binding' the rare lands requires a handwritten note from Urza and a lock of Chandra's pub^H^H^Hhair, and all those require Black Lotuses to buy, and all ways to grind Lotuses are timegated, leaving Hubert with no choice but to reach for his credit card.
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 06:23 |
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eonwe posted:how MMO-y is this gonna be it reminds me more of Diablo 3, with a bunch of swappable Build Components and a kind of actiony battlefield to deploy your moves on Gynovore posted:speculation about crafting, plus a weird reference to Chandra Nalaar's pubic hair for some reason? gross dude they have talked about the crafting/gear/drops in various videos, you can see the grooves they've made for themselves:
so my speculation is that accumulating a library of most of the spells will be pretty easy, and gear will probably be pretty interchangeable, but artifacts will be purchasable in lockbox form, and the various upgrade currencies will all be economized to push you towards various lockboxes and cash-shop bundles there's also the thing where you get one character class for free, and have to buy the others later, that part will probably be another funnel towards money-paying EDIT: there's plainly enough mechanical clicky-bits that I'm gonna be loving with this for a while at least LordSaturn fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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Gynovore posted:
In order to upgrade your spells and gear you need refined Aether. You can only refine 10,000 aether per day. You can however buy refined aether with real money currency (zen) from other players. F2P players can sell aether for zen to other players. That's your time gate / pay to win function in Magic Legends.
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# ? Feb 22, 2021 05:41 |
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Frustrated posted:In order to upgrade your spells and gear you need refined Aether. You can only refine 10,000 aether per day. You can however buy refined aether with real money currency (zen) from other players. F2P players can sell aether for zen to other players. That's your time gate / pay to win function in Magic Legends. This is the same in Star Trek Online too, only they call it dilithium, it just changes names in each game. It's an extremely exploitative pay to win system.
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# ? Feb 22, 2021 16:10 |
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I said come in! posted:This is the same in Star Trek Online too, only they call it dilithium, it just changes names in each game. It's an extremely exploitative pay to win system. I guess latinum was too on the nose
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# ? Feb 22, 2021 16:22 |
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Here’s more info about the dozen currencies in the game: https://www.playmagiclegends.com/en/news-article/11485203?fbclid=IwAR3p7KvldhWe1X0R7WF4SzlgMCt6Gronx6M-SD6ghoal_UZYeL9nZM8iGiA
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# ? Mar 11, 2021 22:57 |
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I guess I might have missed this but have they actually talked about the game structure at all? Having all these currency exchanges and sinks is great and all but I feel like I have no idea what you're actually doing hour to hour. Also unless I missed it in that article having a battle pass that does not fully refund itself seems like a bad move.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 03:43 |
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Kaysette posted:Here’s more info about the dozen currencies in the game: https://www.playmagiclegends.com/en/news-article/11485203?fbclid=IwAR3p7KvldhWe1X0R7WF4SzlgMCt6Gronx6M-SD6ghoal_UZYeL9nZM8iGiA ohhh for gently caress's sake...
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Orv posted:I guess I might have missed this but have they actually talked about the game structure at all? Having all these currency exchanges and sinks is great and all but I feel like I have no idea what you're actually doing hour to hour. yes but only in lovely ad-saturated articles on games press websites or livestreams (now VODs) running down the mechanics. if you can be more specific about what you're wondering we might know the answer
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 20:11 |
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LordSaturn posted:yes but only in lovely ad-saturated articles on games press websites or livestreams (now VODs) running down the mechanics. if you can be more specific about what you're wondering we might know the answer Sort of not entirely sure how to even phrase it, necessarily. Is there a campaign? Is there a D3 adventure mode analogue? It's an MMO that seems focused around grinding perpetually better versions of the spells so what's the carry on/post-game mission structure? Go do this one adventure/map/mission over and over for these four drops? Just that kind of stuff in general honestly, if it's easier to just point me at VODs that's fine too.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 22:58 |
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seems like Destiny-style - a hub world with instanced combat trials i.e. quests. beat the combat, proceed to the next quest. don't know if they've talked about post-game yet here's the VODs https://twitch.tv/beamagiclegend
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 09:51 |
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Polygon — Hands-on with Magic: Legends, entering beta on PC March 23quote:So how much content is available at launch? The game’s developers told Polygon to expect about 30 hours out of the gate, with somewhat less required to unlock all the basic spells for the game’s five planeswalker classes. Beyond that, repetition is the name of the game. You’ll be able to team up with other players to tackle particularly challenging difficulty levels, and get rewarded with all the building blocks you’ll need to craft new cards and improve old ones.
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# ? Mar 18, 2021 18:54 |
sounds awful
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# ? Mar 18, 2021 18:58 |
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They should have stole my "Flappy Nicol Bolas" game idea
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# ? Mar 18, 2021 20:17 |
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Watching the official Twitch stream today, Cryptic has done a lot of work on the presentation. Visually much more interesting game. Just a question of whether or not it will be fun to play. I last played the prep-alpha and was not impressed at all, but that was a long time ago at this point. Am really hoping this ends up a good game. Cryptic MMOs tend to be pretty basic at the start, but really grow overtime and get better.
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# ? Mar 18, 2021 23:15 |
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Even the stans on this game are down in the dumps on it. Been tracking it for awhile. Can’t wait for March 23rd open beta. Gonna throw the discord channel up in the ol usual games discord and let it ride. I do hope it’s all good. The world needs good games. Fingers crossed!
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# ? Mar 19, 2021 02:19 |
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This is going to be a great game
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# ? Mar 19, 2021 03:20 |
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Is it just me, or is this Diablo 3 clone launching 10 years after Diablo 3, whilst the gaming world is preparing for Diablo 4 AND Diablo 2 being remade. WotC behind the curve again?
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# ? Mar 19, 2021 05:09 |
the weird thing is, if they just said this was an ARPG I'd be way more into it classifying it as an MMO is just a disappointment to me for some reason
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# ? Mar 19, 2021 05:32 |
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FDGF_UK posted:Is it just me, or is this Diablo 3 clone launching 10 years after Diablo 3, whilst the gaming world is preparing for Diablo 4 AND Diablo 2 being remade. WotC behind the curve again? I personally don't care for either of those games.
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# ? Mar 19, 2021 06:46 |
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eonwe posted:the weird thing is, if they just said this was an ARPG I'd be way more into it In the west, the action RPG / MMORPG genre isn't that popular and there aren't a lot of options, but right now it's the hot thing in Korea and Japan. It's the direction that Diablo 4 is going too.
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# ? Mar 19, 2021 06:48 |
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FDGF_UK posted:Is it just me, or is this Diablo 3 clone launching 10 years after Diablo 3, whilst the gaming world is preparing for Diablo 4 AND Diablo 2 being remade. WotC behind the curve again? Every piece of D4 footage has looked very bad, which granted the game is apparently still trying to figure out what it wants to be even after it got refactored like four times before being announced and D2 rerelease is not a meaningful thing to other new ARPGs existing. Mind you I don't think this game is gonna be super great irrespective of these things. E: To clarify on the D2 point, the people that have been playing D2 this whole time are going to keep playing D2, the people who are nostalgic are going to go back for a few weeks or a couple months and then things'll continue on as they always do, all of us thirsting for the next ARPG disappointment. Orv fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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The ARPG of most interest right now is Last Epoch. I've not played in a few iterations, but it definitely recaptured the D2 feel. E: and I already mentioned it last month, sorry.
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# ? Mar 19, 2021 12:36 |
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I mean, Blizzard is regressing to DoNt U hAvE pHoNeS?? so as long as Magic Legends is better than that, they're probably doing alright, it pretty much just has to compete with the D2 remaster, unless d4 turns out to be actually good. Also some people are still boycotting blizzard because of their stance on hong kong.
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# ? Mar 19, 2021 13:57 |
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Can I be an enchantress deck? Last time I played MtG was Urza block
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# ? Mar 19, 2021 14:12 |
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Don't wait on Diablo 4 either, Magic Legends is beating it to market by 2 to 3 years, it's not coming out anytime soon. Diablo 2 Remake is maybe releasing this year, but then it's finished, the dev team is moving on after launch. Last Epoch, and Path of Exile 2 right now are the other action RPGs to be excited about currently.
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# ? Mar 19, 2021 15:11 |
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Rufio posted:Can I be an enchantress deck? Last time I played MtG was Urza block you can make a pile of enchantments, yet to be seen whether that's a workable strategy in any way given that it's Cryptic doing a high-customization game again I'd like to imagine the game balance is going to break as horribly as Urza block but who knows, really
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