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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agzItTz35QQ 8 years later some of it is a lot better, some of it is pretty much the same. text to speech sounds way better thanks to ML-based speech synthesis you can now shout at it instead of pressing a button because of low power DSPs, but it still mis-fires too often transcription is way better but it's still not perfect and wasn't that bad 8 years ago but in terms of what actions the siri/alexa/google cylinders can do, I feel like it hasn't evolved as far as you'd hope. like yeah there are more commands you can shout at them, and aside from alexa, with apple/google you can usually shout it in a variety of different ways, but it was kind of sold with this idea that "the AI will figure out how to do what you want" and instead it still feels like a bunch of brittle pattern matching. does anyone actually buy things by shouting at the cylinder? I feel like normal people don't really do that but I have no idea what normal humans are doing these days
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broke: shouting at the cylinder woke: shooting at the cylinder --------8<---------
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Jonny 290 posted:broke: shouting at the cylinder surprisingly there aren't youtube videos of people shooting at a cylinder, which is weird because there are youtube videos of people shooting at *everything*
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misread as "making GBS threads"
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Jonny 290 posted:broke: shouting at the cylinder revolver cylinder
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Hey YOSPOS! I don't mean to be tellin' tales out of school, but there's a feller in there that'll pay you ten dollars if you talk into his cylinder.
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I don’t think my car’s OBD I port supports talking to the cylinders, op
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DuckConference posted:does anyone actually buy things by shouting at the cylinder? I feel like normal people don't really do that but I have no idea what normal humans are doing these days nope. the entire premise of amazon’s loss leading cylinder program is fundamentally flawed. and what happens when the cylinder gives you an ad? google found out the hard way that users hate it, and now they’re selling no-margin cylinders with no way to monetize them. but what about Apple? they make money by selling hardware, so they make the most expensive cylinder with the worst voice assistant. unsurprisingly they’re not huge sellers
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akadajet posted:I don’t think my car’s OBD I port supports talking to the cylinders, op try shouting into the exhaust pipe
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everyone these days just wants to talk to the cylinders. has anyone considered listening to them? hmmm?
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more like cylindurrs imo
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The Management posted:and what happens when the cylinder gives you an ad? google found out the hard way that users hate it, and now they’re selling no-margin cylinders with no way to monetize them. i have no idea what the actual plan is, but don't know if that's something people do regularly, though
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my friend had an amazon and we used it for knock knock jokes and saying "hey Alexa, play my rear end" and seeing what terrible song we could find Worth the $0 we paid for it
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have you ever asked an Alexa to do a knock knock joke? it just splurts the whole thing out there with zero comedic timing and it's a bit funny ngl
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:post your favourite cylinders i really like my jbls flip
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We miss you Scott  I want to go back to the days iOS was good when Siri could help you with actual problems like "I need to hide a body" Removing Wolfram Alpha integration from Siri ruined it, they should have bought the company instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdplWcX5yA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDLZ_ScwNtk
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:post your favourite cylinders 400 cubic centimeter air cooled
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inanimate carbon rod
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just steal one of the cylinders from the Giants Causeway and talk to that instead imo you may summon some form of spirit or fae but whatever it is it'll certainly be less malevolent than amazon
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Bored Online posted:inanimate carbon rod but enough about my no good brother in law!!!!!!
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DuckConference posted:i have no idea what the actual plan is, but nice that should definitely net a lot of money for all of the *stops to count on fingers* zero people who would ever do that
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I'm shocked at the implication Google isn't somehow able to profit from recording every spoken word in your household. Even Amazon sells data from customer doorbells, and that's not even inside your home.
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:it's some heavy-handed twilight zone poo poo that millions of people cheerfully pay money to have an always-on internet-connected microphone in their homes so that they don't have to touch their phones to play music even worse - they have 6 always on internet connected microphones in their homes which were all gifts or “prizes” that they use for nothing at all (besides it eavesdropping)
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I assume you can set up Alexa like a dash button, i.e. tell it to order more toilet paper and it orders the kind you already have selected for restock. I can't imagine actually shopping with a screen-less digital assistant, much less on Amazon since they sell so much counterfeit junk.
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Silver Alicorn posted:I assume you can set up Alexa like a dash button, i.e. tell it to order more toilet paper and it orders the kind you already have selected for restock. you can. in practice almost no one does this.
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Silver Alicorn posted:I assume you can set up Alexa like a dash button, i.e. tell it to order more toilet paper and it orders the kind you already have selected for restock. I can't imagine actually shopping with a screen-less digital assistant, much less on Amazon since they sell so much counterfeit junk. thats kind of funny yeah. amazon, the place that shows you 3,721 results for 'usb cable 6 foot', made a thing that lets you blindly reorder the same thing. if you squint and cock your head, they invalidate part of their whole approach with another of their gadgets.
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The Management posted:you can. in practice almost no one does this. but it was going to kill MY BRAND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXEu8RcneZQ
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i mostly use siri to set timers and alarms. that is all e: music is kind of fun on the echo dot. maybe this and to check the weather. i feel they all kind have overshot the cylinder thing. seemed to be a quick, now-fading fad e2: i think it will come back again, once AI becomes more general. you'll be able to talk to it like a human, that is more intelligent and loving than your average one, but it will warn you that it's not responsible for your safety Good Sphere fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Dec 16, 2019 |
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talking to computers has the same problem it always had. computers aren’t conversational. human dialog requires a huge amount of implicit context that computers just don’t have, and can’t have without a general AI on the level of a human brain. if I say “it’s cold outside” any human understands what you mean. a computer needs to be told that “it” is the weather, “cold” is an approximate temperature range relative to human comfort levels, and outside is a reference to the space near my location but not protected from the weather. and then there’s the significance. what does it mean that it’s cold outside? humans know that it implies that I’m inside, that I would want to dress warmly if I go outside, that it’s going to apply to the context of whatever conversation we were having. maybe you said we should go for a bike ride. but I replied it’s cold outside. that means I think it’s a bad idea right now. anyway cylinders are dumb, don’t talk to them
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cylinders are a strictly worse version of a command line interface, like imagine if you mistyped "cat file.txt" and instead of instantly getting "no such file or directory" you had to wait for a robot voice to say "sorry, i don't understand" or worse, the interface said "ok" and just started playing a random album from your library
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Plank Walker posted:also at least with a CLI you can theoretically read the man pages and get some idea what functionality is even offered, but with a cylinder you have to keep trying poo poo like a bad text based adventure game any reason is a good reason to post the "adventure games committed suicide via cat mustache" article: https://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/77.html
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Plank Walker posted:also at least with a CLI you can theoretically read the man pages and get some idea what functionality is even offered, but with a cylinder you have to keep trying poo poo like a bad text based adventure game alexa read me the instructions
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DuckConference posted:any reason is a good reason to post the "adventure games committed suicide via cat mustache" article: https://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/77.html lol'd at "complex fantasy world of Leisure Suit Larry"
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