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So Chibnall Who is still hot loving garbage huh. It's been bugging me since last season that I can't quite put my finger on why it's so bad. Chibnall is a crap writer, but Dinosaurs on a Spaceship and the one episode with the cubes were at least functional episodes of Doctor Who. The length is certainly a problem; trim this episode down 15 or 20 minutes and you'd see an improvement for sure. Every single scene goes on too long. What if instead of a lovely-looking motorcycle chase we used that time to have the Doctor have a heated conversation with the bad guy, so we might learn more about him than "he's Jeff Bezos and knows aliens?" You know, the only type of scene that Doctor Who is consistently good at? And it would be nice to have Jodie Whittaker do something more than spout technobabble and make tired quips. Also, why is Yaz, who had just had a mildly traumatizing experience being zapped into Alien Forest Zone, laughing and quipping about being shot at in said motorcycle chase? Is this what we get for asking for more Yaz content? I forgot how bad that miniature spinning Tardis looks. At least the aliens look neat, and Sacha Dhawan is having fun. But this still feels like a one-series show another channel would pump out to compete against Doctor Who.
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Wow I guess I never watched last year’s New Year’s special either because I was very confused when a Dalek showed up instead of The Master. I kept waiting for some kind of team-up reveal like an idiot. 
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That was the first Master reveal that I ever got to see not knowing it was coming and it was glorious. I suppose you can count Yana, but I didn't even know who the master was when they did that.
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Jan 2, 2020 01:25
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Rochallor posted:So Chibnall Who is still hot loving garbage huh. What I find interesting about Chibnall Who is that the plots and the general tone all seem spot on and refreshing but the actual line by line, page by page writing is loving dire. I can't recall a single memorable line or moment from 13, compared to Moffat and Davis who for all their faults would manage one or two an episode. In a way he has the exact opposite problem than both of them had.
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Jan 2, 2020 01:28
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Which kind of shows that the best episodes are the ones he oversees but doesn't write. Chibnail needs a good writing team to really work. Moffatt needed a better director.
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PriorMarcus posted:What I find interesting about Chibnall Who is that the plots and the general tone all seem spot on and refreshing but the actual line by line, page by page writing is loving dire. I can't recall a single memorable line or moment from 13, compared to Moffat and Davis who for all their faults would manage one or two an episode. The essence of what is happening is tolerable, but it is poorly conveyed. That's the vibe I got from the last series, with the exception of Demons of the Punjab.
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Jan 2, 2020 01:29
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So as someone who wanted to give 13 a chance but was turned off by all the boring and political b.s. , does this episode mark a turn back to what made most of 9,10, and 11 so good or should give this a pass?
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Jan 2, 2020 01:35
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If by that you mean that you're upset that the doctor is a woman now, and there are too many non-white characters then no, you're not going to get your white men show back this series. Re: An Adventure In Time And Space, there's that Matt Smith cameo at the end that at the time I thought was dreadful and cheesy, but now has me wondering what the Master was doing working at the BBC in the 60s.
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Jan 2, 2020 01:40
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Imagine crying that scifi is "political." It was definitely a better adventure than we had most of last season though.
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Well I scrolled down this thread and ruined the reveal for myself so that sucks. Didn't really care for the episode sadly.
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Mr.Flibble posted:So as someone who wanted to give 13 a chance but was turned off by all the boring and political b.s. ,  The show has issues, but Jodie and the cast are not among them.
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Jan 2, 2020 01:43
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Matt Smith's second episode was about how British Society is built on the back of terrible suffering and our leaders encourage our complacency and complicity.
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Jan 2, 2020 01:45
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Sorry, just blurted that out apropos of nothing.
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Jan 2, 2020 01:46
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Oooooooo, Davos in Iron Fist, that's where I know Sacha Dhawan from. It was bugging me the whole episode. There were definitely some shaky bits, like the motor cycle chase which seemed to be there because Bond movies have car chases, but there wasn't much thought out into beyond that. I had a feeling O wasn't who he said he was because spy movie, but I did not catch onto the reveal until about the time the Doctor did. Reveal good, episode, not bad!
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What part of "I wanted to give 13 a chance" translates to I hate that the Doctor is woman now , and yes I understand the Doctor Who sometimes gets political and all not political episodes are bad( Remembrance of the Daleks is still one of my favorites) , but last season had way too many agenda driven stories, was way too your face about it, and was boring on top of it all!
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"Agenda driven" isn't exactly helping your case.
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Mr.Flibble posted:What part of "I wanted to give 13 a chance" translates to I hate that the Doctor is woman now , and yes I understand the Doctor Who sometimes gets political and all not political episodes are bad( Remembrance of the Daleks is still one of my favorites) , but last season had way too many agenda driven stories, was way too your face about it, and was boring on top of it all! Could you define "agenda driven" real quick? I wanna know if you're a tremendous bigot or if you're just dumb.
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jivjov posted:Could you define "agenda driven" real quick? I wanna know if you're a tremendous bigot or if you're just dumb. We've had an episodes devoted to hating on Donald Trump and Amazon just to name couple, but of course I'm a bigot/dumb because I dare disagree with direction the show is going right now, grow up!
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Jan 2, 2020 03:03
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Mr.Flibble posted:direction the show is going right now Its been going that direction since 1963.
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On the topic of "people who haven't been paying attention to Doctor Who for 50+ years", I present this pearl-clutching dumbass: https://twitter.com/BestDrWho/status/1212060259327590400?s=20
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Jan 2, 2020 03:07
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It was... an episode. I'll let After the War give the more eloquent version of our thoughts.
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Jan 2, 2020 03:28
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I believe in a hopeful and optimistic vision of the future. I believe that is possible that one day, perhaps many years from now that Yaz may do or be tangentially involved in something remotely interesting or display anything resembling a character.
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Jan 2, 2020 03:31
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"Oh he's the founder of Vore" I love Michelle Gomez to death but I'm weirdly charmed by the new Master so far, he's kind of sexy?
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Jan 2, 2020 03:31
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great reveal, good opener. Did people really diskike last year all that much? there were at least 4 great episodes off the top of my head.
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I thought the last series was good, but not great. It didn't hit the lows of the worst bits of the RTD and Moffat eras, but didn't hit the highs of their best stuff either.
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I love a good Master reveal. As soon as I saw the cabin flying beside the plane, I figured it out and lost my poo poo.
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Mr.Flibble posted:We've had an episodes devoted to hating on Donald Trump and Amazon just to name couple, but of course I'm a bigot/dumb because I dare disagree with direction the show is going right now, grow up! As I recall, the Amazon episode came down firmly on the side of Amazon
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Jan 2, 2020 03:42
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I enjoyed the episode, interested to see how they pick up all the threads. Sad to see the end of the Aussies  Is the shrunken O alive or dead in the matchbox? Did Yaz get her DNA changed? Also, wasn’t expecting the reveal. Was kind of hoping to see the previous incarnation again. Somehow.
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Mooseontheloose posted:great reveal, good opener. Most people were lukewarm to positive, I think. Myself, I thought it was the second-worst series in the show's history after Colin Baker's first. In any other season stuff like Demons of the Punjab would be a minor classic, a treat that you don't remember until it comes back up. When it's the best you got, you're in trouble.
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Mooseontheloose posted:great reveal, good opener. General consensus last year seemed to be that the main cast were really good with great chemistry, Whittaker was great, but the stories and the season overall were just kind of okay to good with a couple of standouts (like It Takes You Away), and that Chibnall shouldn't write too many of the episodes and just concentrate on being the showrunner.
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marktheando posted:I thought the last series was good, but not great. It didn't hit the lows of the worst bits of the RTD and Moffat eras, but didn't hit the highs of their best stuff either. To use a pro-wrestling analogy: Chibnall is the Randy Orton of Who producers. Never gonna give you a total mess like Love & Monsters, but not ambitious enough to risk failing and give you something like Midnight or Heaven Sent either. He's also weirdly bad at scale, too. Say what you will about how goofy RTD's "THERE'S A MILLION BAJILLION DALEKS AND THEY'RE GONNA SNUFF OUT ALL STARS IN THE UNIVERSE" style stuff was, it at least felt properly grandiose. Chibnall's attempts always feel oddly like a local theatre group trying to do a Broadway musical. Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Jan 2, 2020 |
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makin a face like the new master right now eeeeeee
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thrawn527 posted:I love a good Master reveal. As soon as I saw the cabin flying beside the plane, I figured it out and lost my poo poo.  I started going "What? No. WHAT? NO!  " while my wife is trying to figure out why I'm losing my poo pooe: Sacha Dhawan is going full on giggling lunatic Master too, I approve Chokes McGee fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jan 2, 2020 |
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You know, I realised after 10 minutes that I really don't need to see any more of these interchangeable piles of explosions in which the Doctor is a world-famous superhero who's being called on and given missions as OUR PLANET'S ONLY SAVIOUR by ALL THE WORLD'S GOVERNMENTS AT ONCE. I'll be back for episode 3, I guess.
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I'm super pleased that the Master's first action was to swap the pilot with a gigantic bomb.
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CommonShore posted:I'm super pleased that the Master's first action was to swap the pilot with a gigantic bomb. "Cockpit bomb!" I got no skin in this game so I enjoyed him going straight to Saturday morning cackling villainy
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hoping part two resolves some of the outstanding mysteries elegantly, but for now I'm glad the messy archrival who lives for drama is back
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Loved how they are all out of the porch drinking iced tea while two bodies rot in the sun nearby.
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I grinned during the reveal. Enjoyed the episode. Jodie's not my favourite Dr but she's alright. The multiple companions tends to make each of them feel less impactful unlike previous companion Dr teamups, but at least there isn't a Dr companion romantic subplot.
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