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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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No, the record for longest wait between Doctor Who episodes from 2005 onward will NOT be broken (only tied), as Doctor Who is back! The long-running show returns exactly one year after the previous episode aired, although while the previous was a holiday special, the next episode is not. This marks the first time since 1977 an episode has aired on New Year's Day and is NOT a special (which isn't saying much, admittedly).

What will happen this series? Well former potential scriptwriter Stephen Fry and former Doctor Lenny Henry will both be making special appearances, alongside several other people not as famous to me. This includes the woman who played Rani, but not THE Rani. Other than that, we've got a few famous foes returning, which is nice! We have slightly more information about the series ahead of time than last series, when we had pretty much nothing. We're still in the dark about plots for every episode, though. Hopefully, there won't be a situation where a heavy subject matter episode has a next time trailer that's wacky!

The series runs weekly after a debut on New Year's Day from 5 January to 1 March:

1-2) Spyfall
3) Orphan 55
4) Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror
5) Fugitive of the Judoon
6) Praxeus
7) Can You Hear Me?
8) The Haunting of Villa Diodati
9) Ascension of the Cybermen
10) The Timeless Children

The previous thread can be found here. Now for the formalities.

NO SPOILERS gently caress it, I don't know what we do about spoilers now
We have a designated spoiler thread, but under Chibnall the amount of spoilers have dried like the lake in that one episode. Use your best judgement. Episode titles can be spoiler-y, so use discretion when discussing episodes yet to air. For example, 'Hide' doesn't spoil anything, but 'OH poo poo IT'S THE DALEKS' does.

WHERE DO I START?
The previous series is a good place to start, beginning with The Woman Who Fell to Earth. This is not to discount Doctors 9-12, but so far their stories have not made a major point in the tenure of Whittaker's Doctor. If you want to watch the original series, there are plenty of places to start. You COULD start with An Unearthly Child and watch everything in chronological order. You could also watch individual serials of all the Doctors and determine which you like the best. Keep in mind, don't shotgun a whole Hartnell or Troughton in one go, or else you'll get complacent. Those 60's episodes are meant to be seen one at a time, and if you only just rented the DVD, wait a few hours between episodes.

The most popular serials for the original series you can jump into are:

First Doctor: An Unearthly Child, The Aztecs
Second Doctor: The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World
Third Doctor: Spearhead from Space, Carnival of Monsters
Fourth Doctor: Pyramids of Mars, The Robots of Death
Fifth Doctor: Kinda, Frontios
Sixth Doctor: Vengeance on Varos, Revelation of the Daleks
Seventh Doctor: Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks

WHERE CAN I WATCH DOCTOR WHO?
If you're an American, you're in luck! You can watch the original run of Doctor Who both on TV (Retro TV and some PBS stations) and online (via Pluto TV and BritBox*)! The United Kingdom and Canada get BritBox, too. If you're Australian, I'm sorry but you'll have to buy or rent the episodes on DVD/Blu-ray.

For the current run:

ON TELEVISION
UK - BBC One (first run), W
USA - BBC America (first run), most PBS stations
Canada - CTV Sci-Fi Channel
Australia - ABC (first run), ABC ME, Syfy

STREAMING
UK - BBC iPlayer, Netflix, Sky Go
USA - Prime Video (moving to HBO Max in May, probably)
Canada - Crave
Australia - Stan, Prime Video

*Day of the Daleks, Planet of the Daleks, the Five Doctors, Resurrection of the Daleks, Revelation of the Daleks, and Remembrance of the Daleks are not available, along with almost every serial missing at least one episode.

SHOULD I BUY THE DVDs AND BLU-RAYs?
Just for the bonus features alone.

THE NOT-AT-ALL BRIEF GUIDE TO BIG FINISH
There are literally thousands of Doctor Who and Doctor Who-related audio dramas released by Big Finish Productions. This is not a post telling you what audio dramas to listen to, because everyone has an opinion that is different from everyone else (some people like Minuet in Hell, believe it or not). This is a post telling you the basic info on the different series of titles there are. I'm only covering ongoing ranges, since devoting a paragraph to the Stage Plays seems a bit silly. If you're wondering why I'm about to spend a good portion of the OP about audio dramas, you are clearly new to the Doctor Who thread.

The Monthly Range
Since 1999, Big Finish have released, on a consistent basis, mostly standalone stories featuring the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh (formerly including Eighth) Doctors. Up to 259th(!) release this month.

The Fourth Doctor Adventures
Tom Baker gets his own line of releases.

The Seventh Doctor: The New Adventures
Hey, remember the Virgin New Adventures? These take place during those! No, I don't know how to find cheap copies of those books.

The Eighth Doctor Adventures / Dark Eyes / Doom Coalition / The Eighth Doctor - The Time War / Ravenous
Paul McGann's Doctor also gets his own line. Goons love 'em.

The Tenth Doctor Adventures
David Tennant reprises his role in mini-seasons every chance he can get, and the results are very RTD-like. In a good way!

The Companion Chronicles / The Early Adventures
This is important: SOME OF THESE ARE NOT AUDIO DRAMAS. These are "enhanced audiobooks" for the most part, which means that one person does all the parts while another gives narration, but also contains sound effects and music cues. The Companion Chronicles originally were one-handers, but now may contain small casts, which the Early Adventure always have.

The Ones with Fake Doctors
The First Doctor Adventures, the Third Doctor Adventures, and the Ninth/Tenth/Eleventh/Twelveth Doctor Chronicles feature people who are not the original actors playing the roles of the title Doctor. If you're OK with that, by all means give them a try.

Spinoffs
There are a ton of these, ranging from good (I, Davros) to who gives a poo poo (anything involving a companion from the audio series).

THE DISCORD
Here it is. The future is now!

FINALLY, let's take a look back....all the way to ten years ago! Let's see here, what Doctor Who episode aired this time ten years ago?

Fon posted:

This is literally the worst thing I have ever seen so far.

Ever.

Oh.

eclipse posted:

This is completely ridiculous. I guess a dignified ending to the series is out of the question.

Oh dear.

The_Doctor posted:

This is really poo poo.

Oh dear.

James R posted:

Oh, my good God.

Seriously?

Oh dear.

Noxville posted:

Pretty sure that whole episode was built around RTD thinking up that 'Master race' line.

:yikes:

Edward Mass fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Mar 2, 2020

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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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HelleSpud posted:

Suggestion for the "Where to Watch (US)" section. There's a free streaming app called PlutoTV which has a channel that just plays (3rd Doctor onward) classic serials 24/7. It's set up like regular TV so you don't control what's on or when and there's commercial breaks, but it's free and fills in while there's a dearth of options for the classics. Also, it's two channels over from an all MST3K all the time channel.

Oh! I thought that was only a temporary thing.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Also, I was wrong in my thinking that the UK BritBox already had classic Doctor Who. It launches Boxing Day.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Dabir posted:

can't wait for this year's christmas special!

https://soundcloud.com/user-129145744/the-night-she-abandoned-us

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Jerusalem posted:

Reminder that the new episode airs in 26 hours thank God oh Jesus thank you God.

Edit: Wait no I did the math wrong and it's 38 hours? gently caress you, Satan t:mad:t

HRH the Queen is not going to get up at 6 in the morning to watch Doctor Who.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Big Mean Jerk posted:

I should probably get around to actually watching last year’s finale before the new episode airs.

The Battle of Who Could Care Less, or Resolution?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Not to drat with faint praise, but that was easily Chibnall's best episode.

Side note: was the audio mix fluctuating for anybody else? It was odd.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Well LOOK WHO HAS THEIR OWN TARDIS.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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I really enjoyed the episode, but I'm hoping the Time Lords come back into existence by season's end. I'd hate for Chibnall to undo the Day of the Doctor by saying "the Master later killed everyone".

Unless Chibnall is playing the long game for the 60th Anniversary :tinfoil:

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Pete McTighe tries, fails to write an episode with a dumber title than Kerblam!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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This episode reminded me of the Concepts! song from MST3K. Why be coherent when you can throw something else in?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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The_Doctor posted:

Preorder of Tom Baker’s Season 14 Blu-Ray is up on Amazon UK. Due out April 20th, but considering the Season 26 one is still not out from a release date of Dec 23rd, that April may not be firm.



I would've guessed they do the Key to Time next, guess I'm wrong!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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I mean, if you want to have a moral about global warming, go for it, but PLEASE make sure your fists are not made of ham first. Having the Doctor reveal "climate change caused all of this!" five minutes before the closing credits is on the level of the twist in the Witchfinders for 'could've been brought to my attention yesterday'.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Where is the Doctor's coat? :argh:

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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That was a good "not doing too much" episode. It didn't try to either make a statement on society or make a pivot in the show's canon, but you can't have every episode do that. I'm pleased enough to give it three and a half stars.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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I don't know what I just watched.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Indeed you can.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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I liked the story, but it didn’t feel like it ever got out of second gear. I was like that Eddie Izzard bit where he describes watching a British movie, ALMOST putting the popcorn in his mouth, but then thinking against it, over and over.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Doctor Who Magazine has revealed the names of the rest of the series' episodes.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Chibnall needs fewer fingers in pies.

(The pies are the episodes)

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Technically, a few seconds of Spyfall was on Gallifrey.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Yeah, looks like the Doctor is wearing a Livestrong bracelet.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Just put him in a wig, his face hasn’t changed too much.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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I'm glad this season of Doctor Who feels like it's building to something, anything.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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JacquelineDempsey posted:

And let's not forget the "sexy" half-clad Cyberwoman from that episode of Torchw----

...You know what, please let me forget that episode.

You know who wrote that episode? THAT'S RIGHT,

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Cojawfee posted:

Are they the ones that farted all the time.

I'm assuming this is a question, and yes.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Torchwood was the kind of show you'd have expected in the late 90's/early 00's on HBO or Showtime, but tied into the world of Doctor Who.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Jokes on you all - I knew they had to put whole seasons out in box sets eventually, so I held out on buying DVDs!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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We're going to have to wait until the next season to know what the deal is with the other Doctor, won't we?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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I eagerly anticipate the explanation of the other Doctor in three days next year hopefully eventually

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Cleretic posted:

I either want it next episode, or I want it never.

Give me a mystery that is literally never answered, I want to see what happens.

Well, they never answered how the Doctor got out of a jam in Timelash!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Rhyno posted:

I would like to see a Hannukah special.

Eight mini-episodes!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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When I see 100+ new posts in the Doctor Who thread, I know something bad has happened.

And I’m right again!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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In addition, nobody in this thread has yet brought up the theme tune showing up when the Doctor is blowing the mind of the matrix, something I thought we got rid of in the 80's.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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marktheando posted:

Since this isn't a problem that would come up for ten more regenerations, I don't think Chibnall needed to address it.

Yeah. Say what you will about the Time of the Doctor, but it wrapped up the 'running out of regenerations' concept in a way that makes sense - restart the clock via the Time Lords when the Doctor is near perma-death. Imagine if 6 was written by Chibnall!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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RTD era: The Force Awakens
Moffat era: The Last Jedi
Cibnall era: The Rise of Skywalker

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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This is more of an analogy than 1:1 comparisons.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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The_Doctor posted:

That said, I’d rather watch more episodes of the Jo Martin Doctor at this point.

It doesn't matter who the Doctor is if the writing is insulting.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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ratings bad

quote:

The conclusion to this year's series of Doctor Who, The Timeless Children, had an official rating of 4.69 million viewers, according to figures released by the Broadcasting Research Audience Board, BARB.

The figure is the lowest consolidated figure for an episode of Doctor Who since the series returned in 2005, a record previously held by the 2017 story, The Eaters of Light. Out of 861 episodes of Doctor Who broadcast since 1963, only 33 have achieved a lower rating.

To put the figure in perspective, it was still the 30th most-watched programme on British TV for the week, much higher that the position achieved by the majority of episodes of Doctor Who shown over the years. The episode had a 21.5% share of the total TV audience.

...

Doctor Who had an Appreciation Index score of 82

The average viewing figures for 2020 now stands at 5.40m as opposed to 7.96m for Series 11 in 2018. This is lower than Series 10 which averaged 5.64m. It is still higher than the lowest rated season, season 26 which averaged 4.31m

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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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insert some sort of regeneration joke here

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