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Fivemarks posted:Urgh. Why does every LP of KOTOR have to go with a female scoundrel? What next, you're going Dark Side too? Short version? Dps, tanks* and Now, the skillmonkey? You need one in the party 24/7, so you might as well be one. Sneak attack gives decent damage output anyways and doubling up with a rogue NPC is not that redundant. *not that it's possible to tank under the 3.5 ruleset but whatever achtungnight posted:Seriously, I agree with you that the way this game does Dark Side is kinda bleah. You'd think the real Dark Side would be more subtle and less cliched. E: but I do agree that the  faction should be written with a touch more nuance and subtlety.
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Did the Jedi council support Palpatine's power grab? I didn't watch the prequel movies. The dark side option is perfectly sensible honestly. If by any chance a Sith followed the questline to the end without force choking/lightning any of these assholes (hell if I know why though) then frankly letting the idiots kill each other would be cathartic. Actually, I could see Palpatine doing poo poo like this as training for his persuasion and manipulation skills.
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Night10194 posted:The prequel trilogy is mostly to blame for the Jedi being stupid and crazy; in the original, Luke and Obiwan are decent guys. And the whole 'Obiwan lied about Vader' thing is primarily because Vader being Luke's dad wasn't even planned until Empire Strikes Back was written. In retrospect Lucas clearly thought "from a certain point of view" was a valid answer and not Obi-wan desperately trying to flail out of admitting a blatant and deliberate lie. Now admittedly the lie was needed back on Tatooine, no way young Luke doesn't react badly to the revelation, and Obi-wan caught a slight case of death while escaping, but Yoda should have told Luke. Thinking a bit about it, I think the Juhani situation can be made to work with minimal changes: 1) we have Bastila in the party. She's de facto supervising us. Make it official 2) protect the civilians from the angered wildlife in the meantime you goddamn rear end in a top hat Jedis 3) and make this an accident not a deliberate object lesson from Juhani's master you goddamn rear end in a top hat Jedis like, straight up admit: "well, we didn't plan this but this happened a week ago and it is a great practical test for a would-be padawan, we've cordoned off the area to avoid casualties and if you screw up Bastila can intervene, good luck" Still assholes, but not stupid and callous ones.
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With Revan dead, and with a non-idiot Jedi as the PC in charge of the Star Forge mission, the Republic actually stands a chance, because Malak doesn't know how to properly leverage the McGuffin. Has the writing hammered enough that Revan was a loving big deal? It's the massive weak point of the Sith philosophy, it only selects for short term power over long term stability. Revan or Palpatine are the exceptions. Although I'd like a Kotor 0 about Revan and Malak's adventures in the Mandalorian wars and then the search for the Star Forge. Just to point how full of poo poo the Jedi also are: in The Old Republic, an high member of the Jedi council is named Satele Shan. She's an idiot "no emotions, love is a weakness leading to the Dork Side" like all the others, and to point the hypocrisy here I'll just add she's Bastila and (male) PC's granddaughter. E: autocorrect, stop randomly changing Revan into Raven or Regan Omobono fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Psion posted:to bioware's credit I think they learned how to foreshadow even better in a future title but I'll leave it at that. Possible Bioware game spoiler, I'm dropping the title --------Jade Empire?------- Anyways, I called this twist relly loving early when I played way back then, because of this conversation (it's from update 2):  The third option is cut off, but IIRC it finishes "I'm not Revan" or something on those lines. Knowing Carth was a romantic option I just realized that yes, Bioware was going to go there and milk the situation for all the angst in a galaxy far far away.
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Gnome de plume posted:There's also one in Mass Effect 2 but you can solve that one simply by Being Commander Shepard. Tali's trial was far more politics than actual trial. One of the Being Commander Shepard solutions is to convince the spectators that the trial is BS and raise the crowd into a riot. It does make sense, as long you accept Shepard's charisma.
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Angry_Ed posted:I mean Palpatine is smart in that he actually plays the long game and plans things out to an insane degree...on the other hand he keeps gleefully going "YES KILL MY SECOND AND BE MY NEW RIGHT HAND SITH" Honestly, I don't think that was really a major blunder by Palpatine. I'm going to assume he cleared the plan with Vader beforehand, because it'd be fairly easy to spin when Anakin's whole deal is fanatical and short-sighted devotion to his family's safety. "Anakin, I'd love to have your son on board, I truly do, but just think. He's been trained at first by Obi-Wan and then by Yoda. You know how treacherous and hypocrital the Jedi are, they clearly filled your son's head with the same lies they tried to brainwash you with all those years ago. I hope I'm wrong and Luke will be willing to see truth peacefully, but I fear that your old mentor's lies went unchallenged for too long, and only some powerful act of sacrifice will break through the lies. You came to me all these years ago because you feared for Padmé's life, and I failed to help you, my good friend. Now that Luke is back with us, the Jedi treachery that kept him from you finally exposed, I promise I will keep him safe" And so on and so forth. Master manipulator is Palpy's shtick, I don't think it's be an hard sell. The moment he actually hosed up was when he completely lost it and decided to torture Luke to death. While standing right next to the guy whose whole deal is fanatical and short-sighted devotion to his family's safety.
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