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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I really hope this decade is better than the last. Or at least that it's better for my comrades ITT.

I did sleep through the change so hopefully that trick works on decades as well as parliamentary votes. I probably would have been shoved out the door at my grandmother's for 2010 with a lump of coal so I choose to believe that's why it was poo poo.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Rarity posted:

One year I will spend NYE not hungover. Today is not that year.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Angepain posted:

this thread has broken me, I didn't even consider the interpretation of this cartoon where the guy ate the beans until looking at it twice

Same. I feel like this is the voight kampff test for UKMT.

Just that picture and below are two buttons, one labled Toot, the other Schlorp.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jose posted:

Happy new year goons check out these cool photos. Rip bozza

https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/1212380763322224640?s=19

Slendertrain, slendertrain, highly unstable slendertrain.
Steals your kids, then explodes, quits the franchise afterwards.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I assumed that was normal in parts of Scotland.

I also assume he looked like the guy on the oats box.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Something in his past about fiddling funds too.

Also don't know how he'd stand on stuff like LGBT issues and/or race.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

He actually seems surprisingly good going by his record:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24963/ian_lavery/wansbeck/votes

Pro LGBT, somewhat anti-interventionist, seems fond of taxes on the rich but not fond of taxes on anyone or thing else, against immigration/asylum restrictions, against surveillance.

Much better than I was expecting actually.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Jan 1, 2020

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

About the only thing I can find on the list is that he voted against fracking regulation, which is odd given he was generally pro environmentalist otherwise. Might be a jobs thing. But other than that I couldn't find anything I'd disagree with.

It'd be worth seeing whether he changes his position for the leadership campaign but otherwise he might be a good choice.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Does fracking really bring that many jobs though? I can see the appeal in the old-school Scargill coal not dole rhetoric, that's whole towns thrown on the scrapheap and it wasn't even for environmental reasons at the time, so there's always the seductive appeal of reopening the pit and finding some use or other for all those black diamonds, but fracking doesn't seem to create as many jobs as, say, building and maintaining a wind farm, or having a major nuclear facility, and looks more like the oil boomtowns of America, a bunch of well paying jobs spring up and then suddenly go away once everything's set up.

Also it doesn't work in UK geology.

*shrug* Maybe the rationale is that absent a labour government he'd rather have the jobs under the tories?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

happyhippy posted:

Wait until you are 40 and you suddenly scare yourself when you realize you aren't thinking of sex every 10 seconds.

Joke's on you that happened to me at about... 25?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Wait jim jones was a maoist???

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Huh.

I only knew about the crazy evangelical part.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jose posted:

He writes that sort of poo poo all the time and the nyt just today was whitewashing that navy seal who did a load of war crimes so bad that his squad were the ones to report him

I watched a three arrows vid recently about blackwater doing a big massacre in Iraq and how Fox is doing a hilaribad job of making them out to be the victims and it made me remember hearing about "contractors" in Iraq/Afghanistan getting killed/captured when I was younger, and now I'm wondering if that just always meant mercs lol. I was always slightly confused why they were sending like, plumbers and brickies out to Iraq.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Nobody said "you're old and crippled, your husband died in the mines, so now your only choice is to starve to death or become the CEO of a dot com that aggressively leverages the market."

I'm fairly sure Jo Swinson said that and that this is what the skills wallets were for.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Something something spectre of communism.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

thespaceinvader posted:

JFC my dad just sent me this bullshit accompanied by the words 'you don't have to agree with the politics to find this intriguing'.

I'm trying to decide just how sarcastically I want to respond - can someone offer a second opinion? This definitely feels to me like 'we want to hire some people who already agree with us to tell us we're clever, and we openly acknowledge that most people think we're stupid, so we don't want THEM', plus a strong dose of 'we think Facebook were on to something when they sold peoples' data to Cambridge Analytica, but we should be doing it in house not subcontracting'.

https://dominiccummings.com/2020/01/02/two-hands-are-a-lot-were-hiring-data-scientists-project-managers-policy-experts-assorted-weirdos/

quote:

We want to hire some VERY clever young people either straight out of university or recently out with with extreme curiosity and capacity for hard work.

One of you will be a sort of personal assistant to me for a year — this will involve a mix of very interesting work and lots of uninteresting trivia that makes my life easier which you won’t enjoy. You will not have weekday date nights, you will sacrifice many weekends — frankly it will hard having a boy/girlfriend at all. It will be exhausting but interesting and if you cut it you will be involved in things at the age of ~21 that most people never see.

I don’t want confident public school bluffers. I want people who are much brighter than me who can work in an extreme environment. If you play office politics, you will be discovered and immediately binned.

Tell your dad to apply so he can bang cummings if he likes him that much.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Chapo did a decent bit on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZmLgB5cWdc

If going to war with iran ends up with iran blowing up the assholes who started it I am not going to complain.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Which socialist party?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Conscriptr app managed by Capita.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you're on JSA for more than three weeks you have to provide evidence of at least 5 iranian soldiers killed per week or you face sanctions.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If your jobcenter has been obliterated by a SCUD missile then you must secure your jobsearch ear necklace to any available structural element, failure to do so will be counted as a failure to attend your weekly review.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Some serious brain spiders going on to own a mug that just says BRITAIN on it in case you forget what country you're in.

Or possibly just RITAIN I can't be sure.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

hello yes I am woefully out of shape, suicidally depressed, and a raving communist, you should definitely give me a gun.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's HIGNFY so it's hard to imagine it not being sneering even if it's technically accurate.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

They also, critically, can't help but apply it at anything that purports to be significant, including like, the actual significant stuff. No capability to make a value judgement, just blind contrarianism, more or less exactly like the press.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

They want that warm sense of contentment that comes from knowing that everyone else is miserable too, and that this is patriotic or something.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

bessantj posted:

I do like the rail maintenance course I'm on but i wish the guy teaching wasn't so willing to use 'gay' as an insult.

I'm interpreting that as the pejorative use of gay being part of the syllabus. Like "this switch is being well gay and you have to fix it"

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

bessantj posted:

He might use it like that at some point. Yesterday someone didn't do a very good job and he pointed to what they had done and said "that was loving gay."

Is your instructor like twelve or something?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

The important thing is that statistically they're old, so they're more likely to be killed by their voting decisions, and from being pork faced wankers with insanely high blood pressure.

On the other hand, presumably they got this far, despite having judgement inverselty proportional to blood pressure, which means they're probably naturally resistant to dying.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That's her yep. Spent the last several years doing little but whinge about the leadership and the party for self promotion. Fan of jacob rees mogg.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


The BBC really is a linguistic atrocity.

Like if you read it too much you'd just lose all ability to say anything meaningful, I wonder if this is what orwell was on about with newspeak.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Gonzo McFee posted:

I tore a rubber with a trans superhero once.

https://twitter.com/bbcnewspidgin/status/1212716813844439042

I feel like I take an economist a lot more seriously when he starts out with "don't spend all your money starting a cocaine selling business because despite it being lucrative, you might go to prison"

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Perhaps the people saying that are morons? That's also an option.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

UKMT January 2020 - E be like say dis thing no dey work.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I really don't think jeremy corbyn going on iranian telly is what's making the difference for people stanning the US droning everyone they like.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Easily defeated with a bit of tape, or just by wheelying it over the line.

I always wondered how those worked, do they put something in the pavement to set it off? Is it just like a big magnet or something that pulls a pin out in the shoe that goes over the wheel?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Wonder if there's anything about britain's foreign policy that might make Iran a bit standoffish.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Have you considered that any labour politician criticizing what the government does is bad because actually the government is good and we should definitely do another war?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Katt posted:

No you are just purposely misconstruing my post of "Labour criticism of the Iran situation via Corbyn looks bad and has no teeth" as "Corbyn is in fact bad" and then you repeatedly respond to that strawman. Over and over and over.

If by "has no teeth" you mean they can't do anything about it then yes, that's how our government works. Whether or not he went on the TV has zero loving bearing on whether people give a poo poo though, what part of this are you not getting? Were you paying any attention over the last three years? The US starting a war with Iran and Johnson dragging us into it are both bad, but people don't want to believe that because they're dickheads and the press won't criticise it because they're dickheads too, that's it, end of. It has absolutely nothing to do with any sort of actual facts about whether it's actually bad or whether corbyn went on the TV or not, zero, none. A bunch of old lovely assholes like the tories and think war is great cos they're loving morons, that's it.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Katt posted:

It matters because Labour has to to keep Boris from Iraq 2.0ing this thing and in this particular case Corbyn is probably the most compromised person available to spearhead the effort.

Labour absolutely does not have to do that, labour is the minority, the tories get to do whatever they want for the next five years, and the consequences are entirely their fault.

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