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WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

New decade in on the ground floor woop woop.

Just think, by the end of this decade we'll have a transformative Labour government.

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WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.


You can do it bud.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Guavanaut posted:

e: 2 is the smallest and only even prime number, and the only prime that appears in 2020 twice.

That's a lame snipe.

2 is the minimum number of royals who will die this decade.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

TBF it wouldn't be off form for Brenda to live to 105 or something ridiculous, looking at when her mam went out. She's 93 currently. Phil's not lasting more than a few more years though IMO.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

There's an actual reasonably decent article here from Mark Steel:

https://twitter.com/mrmarksteel/status/1212855619251822592?s=20

Of course it's heaped with irony but it does make some good points.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Oh cool yeah thanks I'll check them out.

Also thread might like this:

https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1212864465252888581?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.


Ha thanks.

Dom Joly is a right loving twat.


Anyway, in other news:

Lavery has just declared he's not running for leader, instead supporting RLB:

https://twitter.com/IanLaveryMP/status/1214322453436088321?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

CoolCab posted:

do you have to go to school for five years then, though? financing will only cover four...

Dunno but, I did a foundation year at the start of my degree (which I didn't finish) and it cost £1200 for tuition back when main tuition fees were £3k/year so it might be cheaper. Guess you'd still have to cover living costs though.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Nothingtoseehere posted:

These days they cost the same, but if you go to uni as an adult I'm pretty sure you get the full maintenance loan - only 9k though which is liveable as a student but as an adult...

Yeah I was an "independent student" when I did it because I'd been working and paying rent (to my parents) for 3 years when I started so I got full maintenance loan and grant without any means testing needed, which was nice.

Of course now there's no such thing as grants because gently caress you.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

I liked firefly the first time I watched it, have tried to watch through it twice again since and never managed it. It's not very good, really.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

IIRC they said that the movie (Serenity) completed the whole of the planned story line for the however many seasons they were going to originally make... so I don't get why they'd be bringing it back.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

marktheando posted:

For what reason?

https://twitter.com/ThangamMP/status/1216029352309248006?s=20

Because she said she's "literally a communist" apparently that means she supports the communist party and therefore shouldn't be allowed as a Labour member.

Lol.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

So it's pretty obvious that RLB is the best choice of those running for leader. What do we think of Rayner?

As it stands she's the only one with a chance of getting on the ballot of looking good but I've also seen a lot of proper lefty's on Twitter saying they don't like her.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1216374806918111239?s=20

loving yikes.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

thespaceinvader posted:

Already gone, what was it.

https://twitter.com/FloEshalomi/status/1216362840015196160?s=20

It was Angela Rayner's response to this saying "Yes @jessphillips and I often get the same thing because we both have northern accents, even though they're different." Think there was more to it than that but basically it was real loving yikes-worthy either not understanding or purposely ignoring racism.

E: here it is on Politwoops:

https://politwoops.co.uk/p/labour/AngelaRayner/1216374806918111239

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Paperhouse posted:

Travelling outside the UK is often cheaper than travelling inside it, because everything is expensive as gently caress.

I can recommend Prague and Latvia for really cheap travel. Travel there, food, accommodation and drinks all quite cheap. Probably also other places over that way - Slovenia, Hungary etc. but I'm just guessing.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

I think Butler is my pick for deputy but she has voted previously against investigations into Iraq and a couple of other slightly dodgy things. Like, 90% of her voting record is good but yeah.

Rayner's record obviously only goes back to 2015 but she's also said some stuff on Twitter etc. that's made me think "Hmmmm", including that thing I posted before like Bundy said where she "me too"'d a black woman MP experiencing racism which was a Yikes moment.

Again, Burgon's record only goes back to 2015, he's been decent enough when I've seen him on the telly doing debates and stuff. Def wouldn't want him as leader but maybe he'd be alright as deputy?

To be honest, based on my current perception/knowledge about them, I'd be happy enough if any of these 3 became deputy.

Rosena Allin-Khan seems proper melty, and I seem to think Ian Murray is a oval office but I can't remember specifically why?

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

SEO is still the epitome of a completely loving worthless job which benefits nobody, to me.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Guavanaut posted:

1st-10th they came for the SEO experts.

This is a good joke.

Also at my last UK job (not actually my last job now - I lost my new job in Canada - well, technically I resigned, because they were wankers) my boss asked me "How do you find a good SEO person?".

Obviously the response is to just google "SEO".

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

We're letting Luton off far too easily in the terrible airport stakes. Somehow exists in the quantum state of always being far too crowded, while also being a loving trek from any point A to B.

Eh. Luton's pretty inoffensive. Easier to get to from lots of places than either London or Birmingham airports.

Calling it "London Luton" is a piss take, though.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

thespaceinvader posted:

The sycophancy is deeply disturbing, as is the open acceptance that loving 500 grand is something the coutnry couldn't just. Pay.

Like, 500 grand is the kind of money I personally could probably have accessed at one point, had I remained in full time work.

It's such a pittance they should be laughing him out of the room when he say we need to loving crowdfund it.

It's not about the money, or about big ben, or about the bongs. It's a jingoistic distraction to try to convince all the dumb gently caress Tory Leave voters that it's all patriotic and let's have a grand gesture to celebrate what a huge success Brexit is going to be...

Until they have to blame it on the perfidious EU for not giving us what we wanted and cheating the British people and Are Soverenteh.

E: https://twitter.com/TNeenan/status/1217384889370046471?s=20

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jan 16, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Borrovan posted:

Don't mourn; organise.

Absolutely spot on, continuing your trend of being one of the soundest posters ITT. Electoralism is bullshit. As you say the only "electable" candidate will be one who cozies up to the Murdoch press, with all the racism and bullshit that comes along with it, and even Ed "Controls on immigration" Milliband didn't go far enough with that.

So gently caress it. I've summed it up as "If you won't compromise on your greatest ideals, how do you ever expect to win and get a government who will achieve your greatest ideals?". It's a nonsense. Electoralists (i.e., libs) love to say poo poo like "Forget the purity quest, it means nothing if we don't win!" but the opposite is equally true: Winning means nothing if you don't end up with a winner who will make meaningful change. And like Borrovan said, some fake socialist, "little bit fash" arsehole won't win anyway, because people will just vote for the full-fat fascist instead. Changing the system, changing the electorate, putting in hard graft is the only way.

Unfortunately there's not so much I can do from outside the UK but I'll continue to donate to worthwhile orgs. I'll be grateful going forward if people can highlight what they think are gonna be the most impactful ways to do this.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/GuillotineMedia/status/1218500286299496449?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/nehashah_/status/1219285616711602176?s=20

This sucks from Rayner.

I can see what she's driving at but if anything, better education about how we were such total shits during the times of colonialism and empire should be part of political education, and help end all this loving racism and xenophobia.

E: Unrelated:

https://twitter.com/earthygirl011/status/1218981276964786181?s=20

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jan 20, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

baka kaba posted:

I dunno, if she'd said "the British empire" then I could see her having a complaint, but "colonialism" sounds like actual critical study and I don't know why you'd push that as a bad thing.

Yeah combined with her "me too"ing a black MPs post about racism in the HoC the other day, plus her thing ages ago about "white working class boys" or whatever it was... it's not looking good.

I think people are hype about her because she's a young, Northern woman who isn't from the usual MP pipeline of private school->connections->MP, and she can get fired up about stuff.

Honestly I think it's a bit of the same thing that Starmer's got going on - she's a "personality", and she does have working class credentials, but I'm not convinced by what's seemingly under the surface.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/HowUpsetting/status/1219653039801405440?s=20

loving lol.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Debbie Does Dagon posted:

Jess did a Q&A on Mumsnet and was pretty right-on about trans people being allowed to breathe and exist, which I'm sure pissed them all off

This is one of the things that's so utterly maddening about Jessflaps. When you look at what she's voted for, what she's talked about, what her views are, and what she claims to represent... you can't actually find much wrong with it. She's banging on about what a socialist she is, she seems to be correct on trans rights, she has, I understand, been good on some feminist issues...

But when you actually get down to it her actions, the way she tries to promote herself above all else, it's just loving terrible.

If she's such a socialist, why didn't she get behind Corbyn?

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

^^ It's originally from "The Ian Duncan Smiths", a parody band.

Anyway... aside from that, there's something really loving weird going on at the moment on twitter. Lots of big and small accounts condemning Labour/Corbynites for Sinophobia:

https://twitter.com/LaurenD1905/status/1220008596047568898?s=20

https://twitter.com/SarahOwen_/status/1220070370990010370?s=20


Apparently since Chinese For Labour have come out and endorsed Nandy, they have been getting abuse from the "Hard left"... lots and lots of people condemning it, but I can't find any actual abuse, and it seems I'm not the only one:

https://twitter.com/dsquareddigest/status/1220090498960019460?s=20

https://twitter.com/demarionunn/status/1220091268467957770?s=20

https://twitter.com/komradeKuacks/status/1220091461150171137?s=20

https://twitter.com/SyedforLondon/status/1220098830009618432?s=20

Obviously twitter is not real life but there are MPs etc. getting in on this and it feels veeeeery loving fishy to me. Same poo poo with "these people are receiving abuse from the HARD LEFT" without any kind of verification or proof that the people are even Labour supporters.

Sorry for the tweet bomb.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jan 22, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I can't make out who is accusing who of what here! (Went to the tweet threads).

Sarah Owen seems to say that it is far right doing it?

Yeah sorry.

Some clarity:

https://twitter.com/Daniel_Sugarman/status/1220075713010847745?s=20

https://twitter.com/Lokinash06/status/1220112950662434822?s=20

https://twitter.com/Conservative_JA/status/1220008687185682432?s=20

https://twitter.com/c21stprimitive/status/1220109045069176837?s=20

https://twitter.com/JackHanlon__/status/1220107886812106752?s=20

E: Oh, and this one:

https://twitter.com/ayeshahazarika/status/1220051646669033476?s=20

This Ayesha Hazarika seems like a bit of a poo poo. Former adviser to Ed Milliband and Harriett Harman, now seems to be trashing the left and RLB a lot. She's showed up on my TL quite a bit recently.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jan 23, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://jacobinmag.com/2020/01/jess-phillips-labour-party-leader-corbyn-uk-long-bailey

Good short article about Jessflaps here, and how the right/centre's lack of deeper analysis about Corbyn's popularity, and their labeling of his supporters as a "personality cult" led them to try to replicate this by creating a personality cult around Jess Phillips.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Guavanaut posted:

Large deer.

The deer don't usually come out so well either though.

Moose.

Apparently moose can stop a car well enough to kill people and sometimes walk away from it relatively unscathed.

E: I mean, not very often. Usually the moose will also be hosed up.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

He's all over the place because the UK media feels it isn't doing its job properly unless it shovels racist uninformed cunts down your throat at every opportunity.

It makes money so it's good. Nevermind that it does real harm to people. People like to watch "straight talking" people who "tell it like it is" and "aren't afraid to speak their minds". You will notice that all of those are synonyms for "racist".

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

I'm not a doctor, but don't risk it. Codeine overdose brings a risk of breathing problems, including stopping altogether. 10g of Paracetamol is also a level at which delayed liver damage can occur.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/codeine-oral-route/side-effects/drg-20074022

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Gladiators started a year after the Super NES came out in the UK.

"There wasn't a computer in sight" was a *long* way past by then.

Anyway yeah if you click through to the twitter thread he works out times in which all those things could possibly apply and it was about 3 weekends.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Ms Adequate posted:

Yeah no mention of dicking around with a BBC Micro or something? Deeply suss.

We had a BBC Micro in the house since before I was born, and I'm in my mid 30s.

loving cracking computer, that.

BTW, you can play pretty much all the games that ever came out on the Micro online here:

http://www.bbcmicro.co.uk

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

I've just spent the last 30 minutes playing Martello Tower like it's 1989 in middle school all over again

Haha great!

My wife and I played through that a couple of years ago because she remembered having it at school and playing it with her sisters, but was never able to finish it.

We finished it, and then once you finish it, it says "Now try and finish it in only 153 moves!" or something, and we tried, but we came up like 2 over or something.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Just saw this in the OSHA thread, don't remember having seen it here:

https://twitter.com/b9AcE/status/1201801310225534976?s=20

Why the gently caress aren't workers in the UK like this? This owns.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/shaunjlawson/status/1221377670627450882?s=20

Did this guy used to be good, or was he always a melt?

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Miftan posted:

Fluctuates wildly between both positions - almost like he's a normal person who isn't just ideologically hardstuck on one position.

Then I have no time for him.

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WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/1221364774421790720?s=20

It's Rach Swindon's tweet, but ignore that, the vid is good.

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