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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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The occasional derail like cops, taxes, or the best type of taco filling.

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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https://twitter.com/nbcpolitics/status/1212509072160907268?s=21

Reminder: the GOP is deliberately enabling bigots.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Thwomp posted:

I wonder how Cait Jenner feels.

Rich and not a federal employee, so "let them eat poo poo" about it all, I assume? Turns out being an oppressed minority is always fraught, but money/power makes it easier.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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A better comparison would be if Iran killed the commander of JSOC. Or maybe even just commander of SOCCENT.

So still real serious.

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Jul 11, 2004

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https://twitter.com/curtmills/status/1213089406900420613?s=21

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Jul 11, 2004

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https://twitter.com/oknox/status/1213219771178770432?s=21

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Jul 11, 2004

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Just gonna say that it's like... way easier and less risky to shoot a missile or drop a bomb than coordinate a streetside abduction of a VIP under armed escort in a city potentially hostile to your ground forces.

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Jul 11, 2004

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Tucker’s brand of white nationalism has included a desire to pull out of the middle east to focus on domestic issues and anti-immigration expenditures for a while now.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Bored As gently caress posted:

Yes because we can absolutely believe without proof that Suilemani was Actually Good now and was gonna try rapprochement with the Saudis instead of continuing the proxy wars and terrorist attacks.

Yeah, if you invent a narrative no one has taken, it is easy to paint that narrative as stupid.

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https://twitter.com/eggymce/status/1213576201857425408?s=21

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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SimonCat posted:

The BBC says that the Iraqi Parliament passed a non-binding resolution asking US troops to leave. I don't think that carries any weight.

Correct. Legislation would be required to formally boot the US. And the forces agreement deal has a one year lead time, IIRC, for US forces to leave.

Of course Iraq could say “gently caress that, deal is canceled, get out faster,” but presumably there are monetary or other carrots that Iraq would forego if it broke a one year timeline agreement. There are likely a lot of ways Iraq could honor a one year timeline but just make everything a pain in the rear end such that it’s less trouble to get most forces out faster anyway.

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Jul 11, 2004

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Duzzy Funlop posted:

Isn't the green zone covered in multiple overlapping CIWS sectors or some other form of anti-missile/ballistic poo poo?

No. I would not recklessly publish a list of passive defense measures, but it’s public knowledge that there is no C-RAM remaining in Iraq. Just in Afghanistan for now.

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Jul 11, 2004

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Stravag posted:

75 rounds a second of 20mill that can reach out to 2.2 miles? gently caress i would NOT want to live anywhere near a us embassy if we have thise things parked all around them

It’s less dangerous than it sounds. You can program in no-fire zones, radars connected to the system dynamically cease fire if they detect aircraft in the path, and the rounds self-destruct while airborne, such that small enough pieces of metal fall down to make it so to take lethal damage from the debris they’d basically have to swallow or inhale the C-RAM round debris on the way down. Debris size from the incoming varies!

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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LibCrusher posted:

In the videos of recent rocket attacks you can see C-RAM attempting to intercept

Source them videos please.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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~400 or so, but those are rough numbers and include those for training etc.

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https://twitter.com/rabrowne75/status/1214566578152361992?s=21

That is not what most people consider imminent.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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That account has been making some real wild claims. Including that the US created all the previous anti-corruption protests, of which al-Sadr was a supporter, but also suddenly all the Iraqi leadership decided to tell the US to get hosed, including al-Sadr. And that actually, SMGs didn’t shoot anti-Iranian protesters when those protesters were rushing Iran-friendly posts and facikities, it was secret US Marine sniper teams.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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It makes certain business models less viable. Or at least forces them to play a shell game with employees. Basically just an annoying way to block or remove certain existing or future shooting ranges.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Imagine it's month 3 of generally heightened tensions, sittin in Kuwait, and your resentment is exploding at being the one guy in the squad who didn't smuggle in a phone.

Just kidding, that guy will have just bought one at the PX or via Amazon or something by then.

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Jul 11, 2004

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Vincent Van Goatse posted:

This is gonna be a long, sleepless night.

Meh, go to sleep, being tired tomorrow wont make the day any less stupid or weird or whatever.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Joanna Piacenza (@jpiacenza) Tweeted:
Respondents were first given a larger, global map.

23% were able to correctly identify Iran. https://t.co/XhP5OU9s2n https://t.co/HVsWpf9ujt https://twitter.com/jpiacenza/status/1214897511414013954?s=20

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Jul 11, 2004

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Stravag posted:

So i hear regulation is nothing but a feelgood tactic that wastes money our proud american companies could be earning because they police themselves fantastically

When the company culture needs to improve, the markets will dictate it!

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Pompeo now says the imminent attacks were going to happen, but they don't know when or where.

In other news, death of the Sun is imminent.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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MA-Horus posted:

I'm trying to wrap my head around the sequence of events in that missile launch.

You're in a TOR (SA-15) missile system, crew of 4. 2 operators, commander, driver.
You are at heightened alert due to the Suleimani attack. You might not even know that your country is retaliating.
You've been ordered(?) to keep active radars off to keep from showing your location to American stealth aircraft which may be in the area, so you're running on passive systems.

You are deployed rather close to an International airport which has commercial flights going in-out at a regular interval.
You see something show up on your passive systems, on a track which appears to be coming from the airport. Low altitude, Flight level 80 (8000ft). It is running a commercial aircraft transponder.

At some point, you decide if it walks like a commercial airliner and quacks like a commercial airliner...it's a US military aircraft going 400mph at 8000 feet over an ADZ that makes Hanoi look like chump change, light up your active radar and fire off a shot?
I just don't get the logic behind it at ALL.

If you think that’s bad, wait til you hear about the USS Vincennes. Makes the more recent shootdown seem downright understandable by comparison.

mlmp08
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MA-Horus posted:

No I know about the Vincennes shootdown, dumb as poo poo. This is even dumber and I just don't get it. SAM launchers usually work in a networked configuration with a command vehicle. Was this one standalone? There's so many questions I want answered.

No this was objectivley less dumb (still bad) but like infinitely less dumb than the Vincennes shootdown.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Jarmak posted:

Do you have anything to justify this volcanicly hot take?

A destroyer/cruiser with a fully manned CIC and commanded by an O-5/6 illegally entering Iranian waters and shooting a codes-broadcasting airliner is objectively loving dumber than some 2-4 man SHORAD crew screwing up. And their bodycount was higher to boot.

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Jarmak posted:

Illegally entering Iranian waters (to chase a gunboat that allegedly fired on a US helicopter crew) makes them more likely to think they're going to be attacked not less (wash with Iran launching missiles), and the Ukrainian flight was also squawking mode 3 so the codes broadcasting is a wash on relative stupidity (and not really notable if we're talking about airline shootdown incidents because AFAIK all such historic incidents involved a code broadcasting plane.

So with what's left you have one dipshit destroyer shooting an inbound airliner that's originating out of hostile airspace and flying at them, who at least tried to waive it off on both military and civilian emergency channels.

Competing with a dipshit Iranian crew that shot their own airliner taking off from their own airport and flying away from them. The loving thing hadn't even appreciably deviated from it's take-off radial yet and what little deviation it had was because it was starting a slow turn away from where the missile was launched. They had deviated from the runway radial of exactly 289 ~30 seconds before the transponder goes dark, it barely made it off the runway of their own airport before they pasted it.

Dude, you’re pro-USA blind on this one. The cruiser illegally entering Iranian TTW and then shooting down an airliner doesn’t get to excuse its massive CIC fuckup. And describing the airliner as “flying at” the Vincennes is such utter bullshit charged language. An airliner inside a civil corridor, squawking civil codes, climbing on an approved flight path, which happens to pass over a cruiser which is busy violating Iranian waters at the O-6’s orders, is not “flying at” the cruiser.

A SHORAD crew loving up and shooting down the Ukrainian airliner is Very loving Bad and should not have occurred and should be fully accounted for.

But on decision cycle, timeline, senior leadership involvement (as far as we know), range, expected threat, and loss of innocent human life, the Vincennes incident is objectively far loving stupider.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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You are focusing on the current hot topic bad action and then as a result minimizing an even more egregious past fuckup.

Air defense is loving hard to do well. Everyone who does air defense for a living realizes you need small tactical units but they inherently carry more risk than a giant centralized machine like an O-6 led CG. Unless the O-6 is bad at his job and has an incompetent CIC crew.

The Vincennes defense you posted is basically this:

“Yeah, I am not sorry that I shot this puppy. You see, I was breaking into this home, so I was scared, so I shot the puppy because I thought the puppy was the homeowner.”

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Yeah, any rear end in a top hat butterbar idiot knows about codeswapping, which is extremely common at initial takeoff. It is true that maybe people didn’t know this PFC-level info in 1988, but it is extremely basic physics.

Also the CIC crew said it was descending when their system showed directly to them that it was not descending.

Another US ship ID’d the flight as commercial air, but the Vincennes crew hosed it up and shot anyway.

The US Navy officially declared it human error.

Mich has been done in the US to assuage ourselves of killing 290 innocents on flight 655. It’s mostly rah rah bullshit, but at least more quietly on the training and system design side, people took note. Quietly.

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Jarmak posted:

Trying to handwaive away the egregiousness of the idiocy of this one by whatabouting a 30+ year old incident that isn't comparable is some Glenn Greenwald poo poo though.

Hey. gently caress this dumb poo poo know-nothing nonsense. I know it hurts your feelings to know that the big and good US military super hosed up in 1988, and you’re butthurt that people who have literally served on cruisers in the air defense section think you’re wrong, but don’t compare those arguments with Glenn loving Greenwald.

I’ll take my sixer or whatever , but Jarmak does not even remotely know what the gently caress he is talking about and has a “USA! USA!” sized blind spot.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Trashing the crash scene still not good. Sure, mystery solved on blowing it out of the sky, but increased odds of misplacing or burying keepsakes, documents, or remains, I imagine.

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Glenn is having a normal day, and he’s not mad, you’re mad! :qq:


https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1216052596819025920?s=21

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Jul 11, 2004

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https://twitter.com/m_bizar/status/1216088079347388416?s=20

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E: beaten

The twitter model giving out nudes for people who sent her donation receipts got people to donate more money than Bezos gave.

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Jul 11, 2004

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https://twitter.com/ksieff/status/1216797706276032513?s=21

Cool cool cool

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One theory is that the media felt like they’d already covered him enough as a rising star pol, so they instead jumped all over the shiny object new centrist-y Dem, in the form of Pete. But Americans who aren’t political junkies don’t really know who Booker is.

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Jul 11, 2004

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I’ve been backing out of more serious podcasts in favor of just humor and fun things to listen to.

A few favorites:
Superego - Sketch characters with lots of mix/editing. Done in real time at live shows.
Comedy Bang Bang - Hot Saucerman interviews interesting people
Hollywood Handbook A very funny fake Hollywood industry insider/advice show? I guess?
The Flophouse Comedy writers / a bar owner talk about bad movies.
Not Another D&D Podcast probably the best comedy D&D podcast out there.
The Adventure Zone - I’ve bailed on it now, but S1 is great. MacElroy brothers doing D&D.
Doughboys - Nick Wiger and Mike Mitchell friend-bitch at each other and review chains and fast food restaurants, usually alongside a comedy writer/comedian/actor.
Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - At its best when interviewing interesting entertainment industry folks and Gourley and Sona are clowning him, at it’s worst when just boosting Neo-Lib icons.
Pop Culture Happy Hour - NPR writers review usually new release pop culture things. Short episodes.
Reply All Kind of a techie/internet deep dive or investigative podcast? There are times it’s some weird internet poo poo I already know about and other tines it’s a fascinating look into online scams, phone-banking law, etc.

I listen to anything that does not require comedic timing at 1.5x or 2x, and if you don’t already you’ll be surprised by how easy that is to attune to.

btw, lurking the SA sub forum Rapidly Going Deaf is useful for podcast reviews/suggestions.

And more. This is where my phone-posting endurance wears out. (Friendly Fire is also good! Podcasts and running mix well!)

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Yep. It has maybe two or three good explainers that then caused it to be blown up as the smartest thing, but it’s extremely neo-lib financier poo poo.

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   http://uaw2865.org/cal-tas-win-multi-million-dollar-grievance-victory/?fbclid=IwAR2VsOtzADX8uH9kXvW22FG9H3JYa-ZZMkCJIbRNSV3cAawhd_E2PaQaJNU

Union wins tuition remission arbitration against University of California, for the practice of assigning TAs to teach classes at just low enough hours to avoid giving then tuition remission.

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Jul 11, 2004

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VV might’ve burned up the remaining stock of good will with his long history of shitposting.

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maffew buildings posted:

It's a podcast primarily for people angry Sara didn't put out when they took her to Buffalo Wild Wings and their friends who agree she's a bitch

After all, enjoying BWW is literally Sara’s job, so don’t act like it’s special to take her back to work.

https://twitter.com/sayhop/status/1039988916449886214?s=21

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