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Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Will you please add a link to the wiki? It was intended to supplant the extremely long OP’s, but everyone seems to forget it exists. https://wikisours.karlstrom.se/wiki/Wiki_Sours

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Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Panty Saluter posted:

this is an edit, right

No, Stantis is a goon and is in on the joke.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Panty Saluter posted:

it's a joke?

Yes, he has been playing the long game, seeing how long he can keep an utterly mediocre knock-off running based on nothing but a promise to ideologically balance Doonesbury.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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"Anti-religion violence." So if I understand it correctly, he's trying to conflate church shootings with anti-Muslim and anti-Jewish violence and claim to be the victim of all of them, even though the perpetrators of the latter are often Christians with the same ideology as McCoy. Gotta have the persecution complex, can't live without it.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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T-man posted:

I lurked 2009 😨

Kids. I was there in 2008 when it was the Mallard Fillmore Megathread.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Pants Donkey posted:

It is 2020, and Garrison holds onto his dream

Just obsessing over a woman’s looks and criticizing her cough while inventing a new conspiracy.

On the eve of Election Day 2020, Garrison draws a cartoon predicting that Hillary will enter the race any minute now. Or, even better, after the vote comes in he’ll insist all the Democratic pledged electors will vote for Hillary instead of the nominee.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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VitalSigns posted:

Welllllllll, candidate who was so unpopular they didn't bother to run then swooped in and stole it with convention shenanigans is something that has actually happened before so it's pretty grounded in comparison to his usual conspiracy theories.

And it backfired so badly that they totally reworked the primary system in response.

RoboRodent posted:

Medusa was punished with her snake hair and stone gaze for being raped by Poseidon in Athena's temple. She has become something of a symbol of female rage against injustice.

It's not the gotcha Garrison thinks it is.

I love the alternate reading that Athena gave her superpowers so she could protect herself in the future. I don’t know if it’s true, but I read that women in Ancient Greece often read it that way to the point where Medusa heads were used to mark women’s shelters.

Jurgan fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jan 2, 2020

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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HootTheOwl posted:

I'm not sure I buy that reading of Medusa because the classic setup for a classical Greek myth is:
Human: "I have positive quality!"
God, disguised as anything from a stag to just an old person: "Would you say you have...very positive quality?"
Human: "Yup!"
God, revealing themselves "HOW DARE YOU SAY YOU ARE GOOD TO A GOD! NOW YOU ARE AN ANIMAL OR SOMETHING"

"Death of the Author" is doubly applicable when the author is unknown. If women want to re-imagine the story to be more empowering, good for them.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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HootTheOwl posted:

The goddesses were poo poo too. Athena loses a loom-off and thus spiders. Diana turns her priest into a bear because she's raped. Hera makes Heracles go mad and kill his children for reasons I forget.

E: wait Diana is the Roman. I don't know about the bear woman and am too lazy to look it up

The Trojan War started because goddesses are vain and catty.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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https://twitter.com/web_rant/status/1213017145568661505?s=21

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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BiggerJ posted:

Gaybies nomination: Best Edit/Parody


Dog had its balls removed, then found out humans go through something far less severe for the same reason.

I get it, except I don't see a political angle.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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D.N. Nation posted:

Delonas had a breadown after Obama was re-elected in '12 so he went on hiatus for a few years (?)...but not before giving us this one last political cartoon, which might be my favorite ever:



Looks like Dees briefly possessed his brain.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Jerusalem posted:

God Herman Cain and Chris Christie really were believed to be legitimate contenders at one point, it's loving insane.

Wasn't Space Admiral Bachmann around in 2012 too?

Only reason Christie isn’t still taken seriously is the Bridgegate scandal. He would have had a real chance in 2016 otherwise.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Amoeba102 posted:

When the firies are saying "tell the prime minister to get hosed" you can gently caress off with that line Mann.

“Firies?” Is that a typo, or is there an actual organized pro-fire group.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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loquacius posted:

is he the Get Your War On guy or am I remembering wrong, because if so he must appreciate being able to get back to his roots

No, but I think he broke out during the run-up to the Iraq War. I get why people don’t like TMW, but I remember seeing it taped to professors’ doors in those days, and it felt like a breath of fresh air, so I have residual fondness for it.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Jay Rust posted:

Why isn’t the Earth crying for the submerged Caribbean

If it was anyone other than Rose, I might suspect it was a comment about how no one is paying attention to the Puerto Rico earthquake.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Who is this? Feels very Latuff.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Just caught up. We ended last year with an Ender's Game derail, and start this one with a Warhammer one. We must like talking about fascist sci-fi dystopias. Just no one mention Starship Troopers and we'll be fine.


I'm disappointed in you pedants for not noticing this is an impossible position. The Cartoonist Has No Idea How Tic-Tac-Toe works.



Gaybies Nomination: Least Concealed Bigotry (Racism)

For an instant, I thought Kirschen was addressing the difficulties Black Jews have, but I forgot that they don't exist.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Feinne posted:

It's legit pretty great Harry and Meghan have recognized the UK press is just straight abusive to them and are severing rather than forcing themselves to stew in the toxicity, especially for the sake of their kids.

Local actress successfully deprograms member of hereditary cult

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Hand Knit posted:

I was scrolling through the Gaybies nominations thread and found this masterpiece



I can't make out the name in the top right. Does anyone know who drew this and when/where it's from?

I just have no idea what this is trying to say. I guess it's saying Sri Lanka as a whole is mourning, as represented by a random brown guy? So lazy.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Vib Rib posted:

Yeah, I don't think the message is "no one shot down change until now" and more that the people advocating justice and social progress have always been right.

I agree, but I think it would be better if they showed conservative assholes shouting down the "dreamers" in the first three panels. Sort of a "we beat them before, we can beat them again" message.

VitalSigns posted:

jesus christ

Give me one good reason why someone who cares about civil rights should also care about war!

I dont know posted:

Was it Rob Smith how had a weird rant about how AOC hasn't earned having three names like, for example, JFK?

I've always wondered why FDR, JFK, and LBJ are the only presidents with a three-letter nickname.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Amoeba102 posted:

GWB, DJT are two you have missed.

The former's main nickname was "Dubya." I don't often hear people use Trump's initials, but it happens sometimes. Too soon to know if it'll stick.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Fister Roboto posted:

Politicians are basically demons, the more names they have the more powerful they are.

Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso should have run for office.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Ague Proof posted:

LBJ did it on purpose to imitate FDR. It's why his wife, daughters, and dogs also had the initials LBJ.

He probably regretted it when hippies rhymed it with “how many kids did you kill today?” He should have stuck to impressing people with his giant dong.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Besesoth posted:

As a note, I've done some pruning on the 2020 Gaybies categories. Here's the revised list:

  • Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy
  • Worst cartoon about Terrorism
  • Worst Obituary Cartoon
  • Worst Caricature
  • Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon
  • Worst Label
  • Most Incomprehensible
  • Least Concealed Bigotry in a Cartoon
  • Worst "Deep State" Cartoon
  • Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon
  • Most Easily Reinterpreted
  • Most Willfully Dense
  • Worst Gaslighter Cartoon
  • Best Edit/Parody
  • Worst Cartoon about a Primary Election
  • Worst Cartoon about the General Election

"Terrorism" includes mass shootings.

This should make it easier both to nominate and to vote at the end of the year; this year's categories are a bit unwieldy!

Also, :frogsiren: voting in the Gay Abortions thread closes in about 24 hours! :frogsiren:

The "bigotry" category is gonna have 300 nominees next year.

Katt posted:

Getting some Erich Honecker vibes myself.

It's an old saying about capitalists turning the working poor against each other. It's definitely not a slam on socialists. https://metro.co.uk/2016/08/21/a-banker-a-worker-and-an-immigrant-cookie-joke-is-resonating-with-facebook-users-6081944/

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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That is in fact not trenchant political commentary from noted shithead 2020 Scott Adams, it is in fact from slightly less-shithead 1992 Scott Adams. He later reprinted this strip with a note that said "this joke made sense in 1992." So let's jump back in time and learn from our history. Over the next several months, I'll be regularly posting political cartoons from the year 1992 and watch how that election unfolded. I don't have exact dates on these, so we'll have to guess a bit on when they occurred. I'm getting them all from this book, though I might try to look up some others if it seems relevant:






FLASHBACK TIME:
It's early 1992, and the Reagan Revolution has been going strong for over a decade. Deregulation of the economy and demagoguery on social issues has paid off for the Republican Party. The Democrats have maintained control over the House of Representatives, but only with the help of a solid block of conservative Southerners. After getting walloped in three successive presidential elections, the received wisdom of the party is that they need to step back from traditional Democratic constituencies like labor and run a more conservative candidate if they want to win. But with Bush holding sky-high approval ratings after his "splendid little war" in Iraq, he's viewed by many as unbeatable. Is there a Democrat who can take him on?



Starting off with Rob Rogers capturing the zetigeist.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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https://twitter.com/jenashleywright/status/1217822756072501250?s=21

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Feinne posted:

Also oh no what will the rich person who was clearly planning this for a while and using the money they had access to in order to build his own personal wealth who is in turn married to another rich person who can decide to go back to work and easily support the whole family possibly do if his family cuts him off from further access to their money!?!?

New season of Suits?



"Father, I cannot click the book."

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Fister Roboto posted:

Apparently arson just never happened until this year. If not climate change, then that's the only reason for fires engulfing literally the entire continent when they haven't before :shrug:

Let's not exaggerate- the fires engulfed an area about the size of Belgium.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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kaschei posted:

I saw the “race” shoe first and boy was it easy to misinterpret.

Same.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Kaza42 posted:

The group call themselves "Reactionaries" and "Neoreactionaries". Basically, the take is that monarchies are the most stable form of government*, and that a sufficiently secure monarch has no incentive to be a bad ruler* and even the worst heir is unlikely to be worse than the clowns democracies keep electing*. Like most fringe ideologies, they make a couple interesting points and then immediately leap to the most unreasonable extreme and insist it's the only logical conclusion. There's an interesting exploration and thorough refutation of the ideology here if anyone wants to see a glimpse of the insanity of the right wing fringe (the blog is Less Wrong adjacent, but avoids most of the weirdness of LW proper)





*this claim is bullshit

Mostly a good read, though this passage is a bit... revisionist, maybe? Self-serving?

quote:

America caused a million deaths in Iraq (more sober sources say 100,000, of which under 10,000 were civilians directly killed by US forces) while making the utmost effort to avoid unnecessary violence and launching war crimes proceedings against anyone caught employing it.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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World Famous W posted:

If it makes others uncomfortable it should be changed. Tradition and in-jokes are second to people

No, it's about heritage, not hate!

Seriously, though, I think it's fine to keep the title to use amongst ourselves in the thread, it's just the public-facing title that should probably be changed.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:

Ah, those spot-the-difference cartoons. Gorrell. Gorrell never changes.

Hey, that's not fair! Every now and then he'll put in effort to say that locking children in cages is not as bad as DEBT.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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So people continued to mistake Graham Chapman for the Messiah even in heaven, to the point that they let him sit on the throne? I... think I kinda like this one.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Let's head back to 1992!



Continuing on the theme of "do we have any good candidates," here's someone called Jim Morin making a charming suicide joke:




(Apologies for the ghost images- the book is printed on thin paper with very dark ink, so it's impossible not to see the other side of each page.)

It seems there was speculation about whether Clinton would run for president for a while leading up to it. George Fisher makes an uninspired "kick the tires" reference:




I suppose that portraying Clinton as young and inexperienced makes sense if he's auditioning to run against "elder statesman" George Bush. Also noteworthy is that Clinton didn't enter the race until October- these days if you wait that long, you're Deval Patrick.

Now it's time to meet our cast of characters, and I'm going to jump on Wikipedia and try to summarize who these guys are. I'm mostly going to talk about things they did before 1992, since later events aren't relevant to this narrative. No clue who Kevin Siers is- a lot of the cartoonists have probably retired.




I don't think I need to introduce Bill Clinton, though this shows how his affairs were an open secret, or at least a rumor, from the beginning. The phrase "I'm not Jack Kennedy" is interesting, since Clinton always claimed JFK as one of his biggest political influences. No clue if Clinton actually said that.



Tom Harkin was an Iowa senator from 1985 to 2015. In 1990, he authored the ADA and introduced it in the Senate with a speech incorporating sign language. On the other hand, he helped direct funding for "alternative medicine." He ran for president in 1992 as a populist with labor union support, and was seen as an early favorite. He's not long for the race, though.



Bob Kerrey was another senator, this one from Nebraska, as well as a former governor. Also a Vietnam vet, which I mention because Clinton's draft-dodging will become an issue. I can't find anything noteworthy that Kerrey did- he was considered the front-runner but "his performance on the campaign trail sometimes seemed lackluster." Looks like Siers had his number.

Also, I know it's cheating to reference later things, but I need to share this quote defending his 1999 vote to repeal Glass-Steagall: "The concerns that we will have a meltdown like 1929 are dramatically overblown".



Now we come to the legendarily weird Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown, who was governor from 1975-1983 and again from 2011-2019. During his time as governor in the 70's he was a proponent of environmentalism, among other things using tax policy to incentivize solar power. He was something of a fiscal conservative, supporting a Balanced Budget Amendment. He was very liberal on gay rights for his time, signing a bill that decriminalized same-sex relationships.

1992 was not his first bite at the apple- he ran for president in '76 and '80, losing both times to Jimmy Carter. 1980 was when he really built up his reputation as a weirdo:

Wikipedia posted:

Brown's 1980 platform, which he declared to be the natural result of combining Buckminster Fuller's visions of the future and E. F. Schumacher's theory of "Buddhist economics", was much expanded from 1976. His "era of limits" slogan was replaced by a promise to, in his words, "Protect the Earth, serve the people, and explore the universe".

Three main planks of his platform were a call for a constitutional convention to ratify the Balanced Budget Amendment; a promise to increase funds for the space program as a "first step in bringing us toward a solar-powered space satellite to provide solar energy for this planet"; and, in the wake of the 1979 Three Mile Island accident, opposition to nuclear power...

he suggested a program of tax credits for those who do not smoke or otherwise damage their health, saying: "Those who abuse their bodies should not abuse the rest of us by taking our tax dollars." Brown also called for expanding the use of acupuncture and midwifery.

As Brown's campaign began to attract more members of what some more conservative commentators described as "the fringe", including activists like Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, and Jesse Jackson, his polling numbers began to suffer... an attempt to film a live speech in Madison, the state's capital, into a special effects-filled, 30-minute commercial (produced and directed by Francis Ford Coppola) was disastrous...

he mostly concentrated on his tax policy, which had been created specifically for him by Arthur Laffer, the famous supporter of supply-side economics who created the Laffer curve. This plan, which called for the replacement of the progressive income tax with a flat tax and a value added tax, both at a fixed 13-percent rate, was decried by his opponents as regressive.

So, yeah, this guy is really strange and his policies are all over the map. Apparently the "moonbeam" nickname was coined by his then-girlfriend Linda Ronstadt, and it's still a term for kooky liberal hippy types to this day.



Finally, we have Paul Tsongas. Tsongas had represented Massachusetts in both the House and Senate from 1975-1985, but had to retire for health reasons. By 1992, he was off the mat and ready to go for the big prize.

A quick overview suggests Michael Ramirez would have kind words for him, as one of his biggest issues was opposing DEBT and deficit spending. He was the founder of something called the Concord Coalition, whose mission statement is to educate "the public about the causes and consequences of federal budget deficits, the long-term challenges facing America's unsustainable entitlement programs, and how to build a sound foundation for economic growth." Still, he also pushed conservation efforts through the Senate. I kind of have a "Barry Goldwater" feel about this guy. "The Boston Herald editorialized that his political philosophy had 'far more in common" with 1990s-era Republican Mitt Romney (who crossed over to vote for Tsongas in the 1992 primaries) than with traditional Massachusetts Democrats like Ted Kennedy.'" Also, he had this charmingly Reaganesque quote: "If anyone thinks the words 'government' and 'efficiency' belong in the same sentence, we have counselling available."

So the stage is set for the early primaries. Iowa was the first caucus, just like today, but it was understood that home state senator Harkin was probably a shoe-in, and so most of the candidates were focused on notching a big showing in New Hampshire. We'll get more into that next week.

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Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Samurai Sanders posted:

It's pretty drat easy to find out that they weren't saints, but I wouldn't expect that from the GOP in 100 billion years so this is an odd cartoon to me.

You don’t think the GOP would throw the Founding Fathers under the bus to save Trump?

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Samurai Sanders posted:

Hmm...I dunno. Aren't the FF their literal gods, or at least the gods of their constituents? Has Trump risen to that level yet?

Like most things, they love the symbol of the FF, not the substance. We’re witnessing Trump act out the exact script Madison and Co. wrote to justify impeachment and the uniform position of the GOP is “move along, nothing to see here.”

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Samurai Sanders posted:

I have almost no connection with CNN. Do they actually do things to justify an I heart CNN pin or not?

Parnas’s interview was on MSNBC, so no.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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“ This wasn’t part of the trade deal…”

So you’re saying Trump’s trade war failed?

At first, I assumed he was making a statement about Chinese imperialism, and the animals represented various countries China was interfering with, but no, it’s just “they eat weird stuff.”

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Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Cowcaster posted:

i can't imagine a sports celebrity dying can function much as a political distraction but i am braced for the 80 or so hack saint peter at the pearly gates comics frantically being scribbled right now

Wonder if anyone will have the guts to do a “burning in hell for being a rapist” cartoon.

Edit: like the Paterno obit right above this post. I was just thinking of that one- amazing timing, PD.

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