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Just saw Luca and it's fantastic. I'm genuinely surprised at how many people have missed all the gay subtext in it. Probably the gayest kid's movie to not feature any (confirmed) gay people.
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Zero One posted:Calamari by Your Name 
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Jun 18, 2021 20:10
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Thank you YouTube. Without you I'd have never been able to follow the plot of this movie for 9 year olds.
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Jun 19, 2021 07:09
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Timeless Appeal posted:Mitchells vs the Machines is pretty direct I love MvtM but it basically did the Korra thing where you toss your gayness in at the last second and then run for the exits. Luca on the other hand is actually a much better film for gay people because it bakes it's themes much more deeply and thoughtfully into the entire movie. Plus, as was discussed earlier, keeping things to the vibes and subtext means that gay kids in those foreign markets are much more likely to see it and get the message than something like MvtM where the offending scene will most likely be removed and most kids will be none the wiser. (I mean, don't get me wrong, both movies have flaws and we're long overdue for something much more overt, but if it's a contest Luca would win hands down.)
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Jun 20, 2021 22:57
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FunkyAl posted:If you want disney to make a gay movie, why not instead just watch a film by a gay filmmaker? Why need disney? Because Disney makes pretty decent movies (when they want to) and a gay Disney movie with the full effort of their animation studio behind it could be a really fun experience. Also, queer kids might enjoy it and feel accepted or some bullshit i don't know...
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Koramei posted:I (like a lot of us, I'm guessing) went back and rewatched the Pixar catalogue after Disney+ came out and yeah, kinda echoing Hedrigall I was a bit struck by how the early movies aren't nearly as much the unsurpassable masterpieces as I'd remembered them being. They're definitely still fun (and nostalgic), but lacking the layers of the best of the new stuff; the spectacle of the brand new and constantly innovative CG was carrying them a lot more than it felt at the time. Watching any older media is hard because what made them innovative or trailblazing has often been copied 1000x since the original work came out. In Pixar's case their hook was sincerity in a market that was much more cynical and emotionally shallow at the time (think early Dreamworks). Their older movies now are still ~good~ but in addition to CG generally not aging well the emotional angles have been copied and in some cases improved upon by more recent films (including many Pixar movies). readingatwork fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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Jun 22, 2021 04:11
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I've decided that I kind of like Luca *more* for being completely allegorical with it's queer themes. I mean, don't get me wrong I desperately want Disney to do something openly gay as much as you do but I find the way you can decode this film like it's some kind of spy letter from the cold war to be fascinating. It's drat near perfectly crafted so that normies will just see a charming but disposable summer adventure film while people familiar with gay culture will see a completely different movie hiding just below the surface and that's kind of awesome. E: And yes, the fact that normies won't get the message is actually a good thing in this case since the movie's not trying to convert bigots but instead to tell gay kids that change is possible. readingatwork fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Jun 23, 2021 |
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Jun 23, 2021 15:12
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Data Graham posted:Course we saw what happened with the Matrix and "redpilling" .. That's very true but at the same time I don't think that's the fault of the films in question nor do I think Luca is a worse film because its general format is easier for assholes to appropriate in bad faith (which they might do regardless). It's worth discussion, sure, and we definitely need more films that are explicit in their queer messaging. However not ~every~ film needs to be completely explicit (deciphering allegory is fun!) and in this case I think the end result is actually more interesting for it's subtlety than a film openly about two gay fish kids having a super gay summer. Though to be fair that movie would also kick rear end for completely different reasons.
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Jun 23, 2021 16:05
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I've talked about it before but Luca is VERY gay and it's VERY intentional. It's just that the gayness is limited to the realm of themes, vibes and allegory so if you aren't familiar with gay culture then you probably missed most of it. For example, here are Luca and Alberto in fish form: And here's the MLM pride flag:  Hrmmmmm.....  I'm not joking when I say that Luca is the gayest mainstream kid's movie I've ever seen.There's tons of moments like Luca's parents finding his
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Jul 2, 2021 15:20
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Ooofff Thank you for giving me a reason to never actually watch this garbage.
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Jul 5, 2021 08:20
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Watching Space Jam 2 for some reason and I feel genuinely bad for LeBron's kids. How awkward must it be to have your dad create a fictionalized version of you and your family life to be put into a major film release for literally everybody on the planet to see?
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Jul 18, 2021 02:40
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The more I look at it the more I absolutely despise the animation in Space Jam 2. It’s that unique kind of bad you get when a project has a ton of money and talent behind it but zero passion (think modern Simpsons). I’d rank it below even Johnny Test I think, that’s how unpleasant I find it.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:21
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Just watched Eva 3+1 and... um... drat. Not really sure how to react to it. Though I really think it does a good job of mixing the good character work of 2.0 with the new elements introduced in 3.0. I particularly like the first half of the movie which is much more grounded than I was expecting it to be. Ano is known for weird imagery and large scale action but he's actually at his best when he calms the gently caress down and focuses on people being people and I really hope he does more projects that capture that tone. Then the second half happens which is a bit more of a mixed bag. There are too many weird new elements and as a result there are these incredibly long strings of expositional gibberish words talking about spears and doors and Adams inserted to keep you in the loop. I really wish the first and second halves were their own movies so they could spend the proper amount of time setting up certain things. Though, now that I think about it a lot of this is probably because 3.0, which should have served as an entry point into the new status quo, ended up being something of a rushed and confusing mess. Or maybe it was best to just throw this poo poo at the audience as fast as possible and get to the action rather than try to have it make any sense? Either way I think it handles these elements MUCH better than in 3.0 and the result are pretty engaging. I'd also argue that some of the more experimental animation decisions the movie tries out just don't work. Some of the CG in particular was a bit underwhelming and often undermined otherwise fantastic action sequences. I was certainly never *bored* at any point though. I will remember a certain face until the day I die.  Overall it's a pretty solid sendoff to the series and definitely worth a watch if you're an Eva fan. Though I still think that EoE was still the best Eva movie. That's right I said it, YOU WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT!? E: Also, lol at Marie still having no real reason to exist after 3 movies. I kind of like her anyways but still, lol. E2: Also Asuka being technically legal now doesn't make the animator's shoving the camera up her rear end any less annoying. Stop ruining otherwise great properties with this poo poo Japan! 
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Aug 15, 2021 06:23
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Watched the Loud House movie. I didn't hate it but most of my complaints with the show are still there. It's got a good visual aesthetic and some fun ideas but it's all wasted on aggressively mediocre writing that never really stops to think about anything it's doing too deeply. It's not offensively bad but drat do some of the decisions made baffle me. Like, why do the ancestors look exactly like the modern family? And for that matter why are they the exact same age they were when they left Scotland? Did they not live entire lives in the states after the flashback ended? Also was magic a thing in this show before? Why are we suddenly dealing with dragons and magic gems? There's *lots* of stuff like that which might bug you if you focus on it for too long. That said, If you can get past that kind of thing there's some nice moments in there as well so idk maybe you'll enjoy it.
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Hedrigall posted:I saw Luca finally, it was aight, mid tier pixar for me. The best thing about it was the colors throughout, it really was gorgeous.  Speaking of Luca I've decided I really want a Luca 2D animated series (gently caress TV-tier CGI it looks like rear end). However, instead of picking up where the movie left off I want it to be a complete reboot where they do a bunch of the stuff they had planned in the deleted scenes (Giulia discovers their secret early on, The fish people have an above part of the island that people know about, the kids actually try to work at a Vespa factory, etc) but with the current character designs because they are much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-8dCcblBAY Yes that includes Ciccio being part of the main group for no God damned reason. The confusion most people would have at this amuses me greatly. Also make Luca and Alberto non-metaphorically gay now. Do it you cowards.
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Season 3 of Scissor Seven is up on Netflix and it continues to be a lot of fun. Seriously, it’s so much better than you’d think it would be at a glance.
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Data Graham posted:Don't forget Biker Mice from Mars Ah, Battletoads… A pretty good game idea completely ruined by the localization team making it so hard it’s completely unplayable. To this day I have yet to meet anybody able to beat the first biking level without save states or other forms of cheating. E: Look at this poo poo! https://youtu.be/1mqxMb7xzN8 readingatwork fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Oct 13, 2021 |
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Macaluso posted:Does Chris Pratt have dirt on people at this point? What is this He's in that magical part of his career where he has enough money and clout to do whatever the gently caress he wants so he chooses a bunch of projects he thinks his kids might like. All action stars do it eventually. E:    
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Nov 2, 2021 04:27
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Schwarzwald posted:In today's hyper-franchisation I could see the Chipmunks being worth something, but 300 mil way too ambitious. So I looked it up and the original live action Chipmunks movie cost $55,000,000 to make and pulled in $500,000,000 worldwide. (Makes you wonder who gets to keep all that profit, no?) I can’t see future projects having that kind of success but even with $150,000,000 in sales they’d pay off the license in just 3 movies. Seems reasonable to me, at least by psychotic capitalist megacorp standards.
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Larryb posted:Have they even done anything with the Chipmunks recently besides the live action movies? I think there was an awful CG show as well at some point.
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Larryb posted:Seems Mario’s not the only Nintendo character that’s getting a movie at some point: Oh come on Nintendo. You own so many IPs that would make great cartoons or movies (Earthbound, Zelda, Animal Crossing), stop focusing on the ones that lend themselves to adaptation the least!
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Nov 4, 2021 15:39
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Larryb posted:How exactly would an Animal Crossing movie work though? You could either go the slice of life route and make the overarching plot about some kid on a scam camping trip building a town from nothing, or you could just have fun with it and do something weird like The Terrible Secret of Animal Crossing. I'm OK with either. quote:But yeah, Zelda would be perfect for a movie adaptation in my opinion (and would likely work in both animation and live action provided it was handled well). I would kill for an animated series in the Wind Waker style. quote:I’d say Metroid as well but the Aliens franchise already exists This would also kick rear end if you could get somebody good at silent storytelling. Think something along the lines of Primal.
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FilthyImp posted:The few times they allowed their IP out in the wild we got the weird live action movie, the weird Captain N Legally Distinct Charicatures, the fun SMB cartoons, the Amazing SMBSS and the ok Koopa Troopa kids show. I will defend the live action Mario Bros movie until the day I die. It is a genuinely interesting take on the setting and it owns. .
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Hedrigall posted:Was Peanuts the movie any kind of hit? I'm watching it and i can't imagine it really appealing to kids with all this boomer stuff in it I thought it was a genuinely sweet little movie that was both a nice celebration of the strip and a decent film on it's own terms.  But to answer your question it brought in around $300,000,000 worldwide and only cost about $100,000,000 so It would seem to have been a pretty solid success.
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The United States posted:How did a Peanuts movie cost 100 million dollars to make Pixar movies usually cost almost double that. Animation is expensive as gently caress.
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Damnit I just remembered how badly I want a Peanuts movie that takes place in the early version of the strip. The *really* early stuff where Patty and Shermy were the only side characters, Snoopy is an actual dog, and CB isn't a complete sad sack (but IS kind of a dick). 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Early Charlie Brown seems like the jumping off point for Calvin. I wouldn't be shocked if you told me that Watterson took a lot of inspiration from Schulz. For example Schulz liked to do snowman comics that feel very similar Calvin's (albeit more wholesome).  
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Snoopy’s evolution from normal rear end dog to fully sentient being that writes novels in his downtime is super weird to me. I’m fully convinced that on a long enough timeline Snoopy would have continued to evolve until he was just another one of the fully-human children. He would still sleep on top of Charlie Brown’s dog house though and only to the most dedicated fans would know why.
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Nov 9, 2021 01:34
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There's also Ciao Alberto which is a short about Alberto bonding with Massimo. It's only 8 mins but it's pretty good.
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Nov 12, 2021 16:14
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FunkyAl posted:The Flapjack guy directed it! I ain't seen it but odds are OK. Can't believe I'm saying this but I might actually need to watch this now. Even if it's a cynical cash grab it might still be decent with him at the helm.
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Nov 12, 2021 21:03
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Watched Angry Birds 2 in the background during work today and I can confirm that it IS in fact pretty decent. It’s not life changing, and there’s a lot of the cringe bullshit you’d expect from modern kids movies, but when the gags land they really knock it out of the park.
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Fun fact I just learned: Laika was made when the guy who made The California Raisins and the scary Mark Twain kids movie got booted from his own studio and the remaining staff rebranded. So in a weird way you can say that The Noid is a studio Laika creation.
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Nov 17, 2021 05:18
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If you want Luca merch the art book is a good buy. In addition to looking fantastic it’s really interesting to see how the story evolved over time and why. My favorite detail is how one of the core group (it used to be 4 kids, not 3) was determined to be redundant (correctly imo) and got switched up to being one of Ercole’s goons.
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Nov 24, 2021 18:55
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Decided to give Tear Along the Dotted Line on Netflix a shot and I sincerely think it's one of the better shows of the year. It's got a really relatable and fun take on life as a human being and does a really good job balancing comedy with the more heavy subject matter it occasionally dips it's toes into. Plus it's interesting to see this sort of slice of life content from an Italian perspective. I highly recommend checking it out.
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Data Graham posted:Having read the original development scripts (https://sites.google.com/site/disneylionking1990script/) and seeing how dull and stilted and awkward it could have been (with a weird focus on one-on-one fight scenes and lion kung-fu that I doubt would have even translated to the screen without being utterly baffling), I feel like one of the greatest miracles in animation was how the multi-year rewrite and refinement process started with something that would have been unwatchable and finally resulted in something so razor-sharp when it came out that it's even more impressive to me now than when it stomped me through the floor in 1994 and set my life on a different course, and which every change to it since then, big and small, has only detracted from it. Certainly there's an element of confirmation bias and of rose-colored glasses and all that, but watching it again now after not seeing it in years just makes me want nothing but to write long garbled posts about it just like it did thirty years ago, and that will never stop astounding me. This is actually a lot more common than you'd think. In fact, big animation studios like Disney usually have quite a few early drafting rounds built into the process with the explicit goal of getting creators to experiment with radically different ways of telling their stories. You'd probably be surprised at how many of your favorite movies were snatched from the jaws of mediocrity this way. Also: Taking this opportunity to post the early animatics of Luca again which was pretty much an entirely different movie at the beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-8dCcblBAY (I still want an animated series based on these. There's some fun ideas there that could be fun to explore in a longer format.)
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Robindaybird posted:Yes, like really we don't need to do a goddamn origin story every time a superhero first hits the screen - how many times has Spidey gotten a big screen origin story? That's one of the brilliant things about ITSV though, we did get a classic Spiderman origin story. The move was just really subtle about it.
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I’m hearing that while the art style for the D+ Diary of a Wimpy Kid movie is interesting, it’s also only 50 mins long, leaves out a bunch of important stuff from the source material and we will need to wait several years for the next installment. While this is disappointing I’m glad to see that the OVA format is alive and well in modern media. E: Disclaimer: Have not actually watched the readingatwork fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Dec 5, 2021 |
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Larryb posted:https://twitter.com/SonicMovie/status/1468581182979776513 Nice! Is Jim Carey back btw? He was the reason the first one worked at all. readingatwork fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Dec 8, 2021 |
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Das Boo posted:When I was 4 I watched The Last Unicorn daily for at least several months. A weirdly vivid memory.  To this day I distinctly remember the drunk skeleton screaming “UUUUUNICORN!”
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Das Boo posted:Also I know this is the animated movie thread, but y'all seen Ranking of King's new OP? RoK is by far my favorite show of last year. It's fantastic on every level.
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