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Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
Jenny Nicholson is... good

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Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Sleeveless posted:

Klaus' animation was like 90% algorithms so I'm glad it lost and something with actual craft behind it won.

are you sure that you yourself are not an algortithm to post the dumbest possible opinions in each thread

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I think I've seen part of one of those, with a lady fox hitting on Balto.

And yes, this franchise has produced a lot of porn.

Hell there were people openly lusting for the antagonist dude husky in this thread like, three iterations ago.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Dr. Red Ranger posted:

It is with great sadness that I report the Fox in Space channel appears to have several videos concerning fursuit...helmets(? heads?) on the front page. I can't say I'm surprised but at least the little vignettes are good.

I mean honestly it's hard to muster much feeling either way towards furries in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty. It's weird, but frankly who even cares at this point. Animation's cool and what the artist does in their free time isn't my concern (with some exceptions obviously)

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

The_Doctor posted:

The absolute weirdest thing is the legit Nazi furries.

Remember SA user Literal Nazi Furry?

Wonder if he's still around.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
So this looks neat:

https://twitter.com/Roweyourboatz/status/1230573997542105091?s=19

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Robindaybird posted:

https://twitter.com/broderick/status/1230893144436281344?s=20 well this also partly explains why Buck looks so off.

JUST USE A REAL DOG FOR NON-ACTION SCENES!

jesus christ why

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
Bender's Game would have made for a fine episode of the original series, but they just did not have enough material for a whole movie.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Pixeltendo posted:

Soul certainly looks a lot more interesting then Onward.

The animation alone looks great, definitely more interested in seeing it than pretty much any of Pixar's other offerings the past few years.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Ok, the fact he's alive makes it more interesting to me because that whole afterlife thing looks like Coco but less relevant to a single culture. And he may have 2 souls in his body?

The trailer almost makes it feel like the inverse of Coco—where as Coco is all about family, death, and remembrance, this film seems to be seeking a broader question about what makes life worth living. Which could definitely serve as the basis for a solid film, especially combined with the animation.

Also, bold plot predictions: The film's conflict will be focused around the spot that Jamie Foxx's character is supposed to be occupying in the Great Beyond, which has to be filled by someone. Tina Fey's character, who doesn't care about living, would be happy to take the spot, and offers to do so as soon as she finds out. As they experience more of Jamie Foxx's memories, however, she begins to understand that there's more to living than she'd realized, while Jamie Foxx realizes that his single-minded focus on his goals (And maybe some selfishness?) made him miss much of his life as it passed him by. Thus by the end of their journey, Tina Fey is no longer wants to pass straight through into the Great Beyond without experiencing life, and Jamie Foxx is willing to allow himself to die so she can have a chance to live. Then, because it's a Pixar movie, they'll find some kind of loophole to allow both of them to go on living, and in the film's epilogue there will be a kid in Jamie Foxx's class voiced by Tina Fey.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Hedrigall posted:

Aren’t we all in hell?

Yes, if the Doom: Eternal sales figures are any indication.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

ImpAtom posted:

If we were in Doom Eternal hell things would be quite a lot better.

Not if we're the demons!

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Didn't the pee-wee actor get busted in one of those?

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
I'm not gonna lie I was hesitant to post at first because I didn't know if you were going to keep it going :v:

ConfusedUs posted:

What’s this?

The Blu-Ray has an alternative cut of the film where they integrate some of the various deleted scenes that were cut for time/pacing.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Pick posted:

Shut the gently caress up.

It's a family entertainment film. It showed as a double feature with My Neighbor Totoro. Having challenging content does not dismiss something as being family entertainment, in fact that's what separates it from children's entertainment. It doesn't have excessively violent, sexual, etc. content that would make it deliberately designed to exclude young people, hence "family entertainment", literally the distinction I was outlining.

In the book Where the Red Fern Grows, a kid dies from tripping on axe and ripping his guts out. And yet that has been required reading for sixth graders for 50 years. A lot of you are completely divorced from children and what they consume and what is designed for their consumption. Pointing that out is not a troll post.

I feel that your kinda weird and arbitrary definitions of "Children" and "Family" entertainment is what's causing the issue here. When I think "Family Entertainment," I think films and media that are written and intended to be watched by family units in group settings, from young kids to elderly adults. Cheaper by the Dozen is family entertainment. The Goonies is family entertainment. Star Wars, ET, most Marvel movies, these are films intended to cater to nearly every demographic. Grave of the Fireflies I would not classify as family entertainment, because it's not the kind of film you can just put on for Little Timmy and Grandma Susan and expect them to enjoy it—some kids are going to be emotionally mature enough for it, but to put it on the same level as Toy Story is... a pretty bad distinction. It doesn't help either that there's a significant gap in the demographics of your examples—you jump from television intended for toddlers to feature films intended for general audiences, with no gap in between. 5-10 year olds need entertainment too!

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
I think what it comes down to is that it's impossible to put up a grand umbrella over all "Children's entertainment," because children are constantly growing and learning, and what they may enjoy one year may be completely inappropriate the next (And vice versa). It also depends on the individual child—I watched Jurassic Park for the first time at age 4 and loved it, while my sister (Two and a half years younger) had nightmares about dinosaurs for years.

What I think I really object to, though, is this:

quote:

Having challenging content does not dismiss something as being family entertainment, in fact that's what separates it from children's entertainment.

This, I feel, is absolutely the wrong attitude to have. Now, of course, this is going to depend on the type of children's entertainment—early childhood entertainment geared towards toddlers and very young children probably shouldn't have too much in the way of 'challenging' content because their brains literally have not developed to the point where they can adequately tackle said content. But as kids get older, they can handle more and more—and it's important that content be specifically geared for them, as opposed to lumping it all under a generic "Family" label, because films intended for families are going to have very different messages and impacts than films that are made specifically with kids in mind. Of course, these demographics can overlap—Grandma isn't going to complain when someone puts on The Iron Giant or The Land Before Time (Which I would argue are more children-oriented) as opposed to, say, The Incredibles or Monsters Inc (Which are more 'family' oriented). But the distinctions do matter, and can matter a lot for the kids consuming that media.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Aces High posted:

it's always fun to come into this thread and learn something about what growing up was like for the various posters in here. I sometimes feel my sense of appropriateness for what to watch in my developing years was skewed because we watched movies like Total Recall and Starship Troopers as a family, I think I was 7 or 8 at the time. I also remember for most of my childhood thinking that while Aladdin was cool and everybody watched it, admitting you watched movies like Cinderella or Beauty and the Beast would get you labelled as "gay"



I also learned about this story called Where the Red Fern Grows that I have never heard of before, though I remember Gary Paulsen's Hatchet series being a big hit when I was in school (I think by that time Brian's Winter had just been published)

Where the Red Fern Grows is an interesting story, it's about a boy who gets two coon hounds and goes around the countryside hunting raccoons (It's much more interesting then it sounds). It's also pretty impactful because of how it ends—the boy is attacked by a mountain lion, and both dogs ultimately die saving him. I wasn't assigned it for school, but was given an old copy of the book by my grandmother, and it's still stuck with me over the years. Hell of a lot more than Johnny Tremaine at any rate :v:

e: Also I had a slightly younger sister, as I mentioned, so I ended up watching all the Disney Princess movies growing up. Even the off-brand ones too, like Anastasia and the Swan Princess series.

Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Apr 5, 2020

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

doomrider7 posted:

The event is known as the "Dolittle Runs" which included both Tokyo and Kobe, but more people usually know it as the "Tokyo Firebombings" since that's the more famous city of the two like you said.

What? No, the Doolittle Raid preceded the mass firebombings of Japan by three years, and didn't cause any kind of significant damage.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
This is the Doolittle Raid: Source

quote:

THE 16 BOMBERS ROARED OFF the Hornet’s deck on the morning of April 18, 1942. All bombed targets but one, whose pilot had to ditch his ordnance in the sea to outrun fighters. According to materials only lately brought to light, the raid obliterated 112 buildings and damaged 53, killing 87 men, women, and children. Among 151 civilians seriously injured, one was a woman shot through the face and thigh while gathering shellfish near Nagoya. At least 311 others suffered minor injuries.

In Tokyo, the raiders burned the Communication Ministry transformer station, as well as more than 50 buildings around the Asahi Electrical Manufacturing Corporation factory and 13 adjoining the National Hemp and Dressing Company. In Kanagawa Prefecture, just south of Tokyo, raiders targeted foundries, factories, and warehouses of the Japanese Steel Corporation and Showa Electric as well as the Yokosuka Naval Base. Robert Bourgeois, bombardier of the 13th plane, which attacked Yokosuka, later commented on the intensity of his preparation. “I had looked at the pictures on board the carrier so much that I knew where every shop was located at this naval base,” he recalled. “It was as if it were my own backyard.”

In Saitama Prefecture, to the north, bombardiers blasted Japan Diesel Corporation Manufacturing. At Nagoya, a massive Toho Gas Company storage tank burned completely. Bombs there also damaged a Mitsubishi Heavy Industries aircraft factory. Six wards of the army hospital went up in flames, along with a food warehouse and army arsenal.

The Japanese logged the results of the war’s first raid on their homeland in minute detail, records that largely survived the 1945 bombardment of Tokyo and the deliberate destruction of records that preceded Japan’s surrender. Pilot Edgar McElroy’s attack on the Yokosuka Naval Base ripped a 26-by-50-foot hole in submarine tender Taigei’s port side, delaying its conversion to an aircraft carrier for four months. One of pilot Harold Watson’s 500-pound demolition bombs penetrated a warehouse filled with gasoline, heavy oil, and volatile methyl chloride, only to bounce into the neighboring wooden building before exploding. Bombs left craters 10 feet deep and 30 feet across. A dud ripped through a house to bury itself in the clay beneath, forcing the military to set a 650-foot perimeter to excavate the projectile.

As Doolittle anticipated, the attack burned residences from Tokyo to Kobe. In 2003 Japanese historians Takehiko Shibata and Katsuhiro Hara revealed that pilot Travis Hoover alone destroyed 52 homes and damaged 14. One bomb blew a woman from the second floor of her house to land unhurt in the street atop a mat. In the same neighborhood 10 civilians died, some burning to death in collapsing houses. Pilots Hoover, Robert Gray, David Jones, and Richard Joyce accounted for 75 of the 87 fatalities. Jones’s attack claimed the most lives—27.

Gray strafed what he thought was a factory, complete with a rooftop air defense surveillance tower. But it was Mizumoto Primary School, where students, like many across Japan, attended half-day classes on Saturdays. After school let out at 11 a.m, many students had stayed to help clean classrooms; one died in the strafing attack. At Waseda Middle School, one of Doolittle’s incendiaries killed fourth-grader Shigeru Kojima. Children’s deaths became a rallying point. A Japanese sergeant later captured by Allied forces described the furor that erupted from the raid. “One father wrote to a leading daily telling of the killing of his child in the bombing of the primary school,” his interrogation report stated. “He deplored the dastardly act and avowed his intention of avenging the child’s death by joining the army and dying a glorious death.”

This, on the other hand, from Downfall: The End of the Imperial Japanese Empire by Richard B. Franks, was Tokyo:

(Don't read if you don't want to ruin your Sunday morning)



This, or something like this, happened to nearly every Japanese city. Tokyo wasn't even the worst hit, as this helpful chart explains. See if you can find your hometown!



The reason Grave of the Fireflies takes place in Kobe is because the story is semi-autobiographical. The author of the original short story that the film was based on grew up in Kobe, and based the story on his experiences in the aftermath (Including the death of his sister from malnutrition). And while the story is, in part, intended for children (though 'child' here is probably better defined as 'pre-teens and teenagers'), it's to help them understand the very real events that their parents and grandparents lived through.

Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Apr 5, 2020

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Pick posted:

Holes.

Holes was a good film/book, I should watch/read it again sometime.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

The_Doctor posted:

I can see them going more Zootopia since everyone savages the completely photorealistic look of Lion King.

Zootopia was also directly influenced by the original Robin Hood, so if you're making a CGI remake it stands to reason they'd follow in that film's successful footsteps.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
Robin Hood as an explicit Zootopia prequel (so it isn't just a remake) could probably work pretty well. Or they could even go whole hog and wrap it into Zootopia 2, with Nick and Judy hunting a treasure hidden by Robin.

of course the only proper thing to expect from Disney these days is disappointment, so I'm not holding my breath.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

doomrider7 posted:

What were the affected movies?

Unfortunately I believe they all came into contact with matter movies and were destroyed, so it's impossible to say.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

YggiDee posted:

and they use motion smoothing

guillotine

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

ThermoPhysical posted:

I forgot this was even a thing.

Didn't they quit a while ago?

Nah they're still going, they post updates on Youtube every once in a while.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Hedrigall posted:

Atlantis is missing like a 20 minute chunk of adventures on the submarine that would have made it one of the best animated adventure films.

Without a middle act it feels so rushed.

Yeah, that's a big part of it. The pacing is just all over the place, and one of the best setpieces of the film is blown up way too quickly. The animation and characters in general had a TON of potential, and it's a shame the end product doesn't really hold together.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
Man I haven't watched Titan: AE since it came out when I was a kid. I... have no idea if it holds up or not.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Aces High posted:

Undergrads is getting a movie, Clone High is getting some new episodes

come ooooooooooon Mission Hill revival

Ha, it's your lucky day:

https://twitter.com/thatbilloakley/status/1278051793914613760?s=19

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
I'm not sure what my full top 5 would be but I'll never turn down an opportunity to say The Iron Giant fuckin' rules.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Barudak posted:

So I was bored and did the math as the films events occur in real time regarding their release. For an actual NASCAR driver Lightning McQueen is basically GOAT with 7 championships in 10 seasons, and being in the finals a minimum of 8/10. For comparison, that would tie him for most championship wins with a real NASCAR driver and they did that over 24(?) seasons. Arguably, he'd be one of the single most dominant athletes at their sports ever. Cars 3 being the end of his career is even weirder because he goes from rookie to retired in 10 years, where the average career for anybody with multiple championships in Nascar is basically 15 years minimum, and closer to 20.

Also his first name is loving Montgomery, not Lightning, so the bit at the end of the film over being called "Fabulous" is a non-sequitor to tie back to Doc Hudson's character which also makes sense mostly only if you forget Cars 2 ever happened which, frankly, you should.

He's actually pretty close to irl NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson, who managed 7 championships from 2006-2016, including five in a row.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

fauna posted:

i still think if this whole thread put our heads together, we could come up with a cartoon that is both progressive and groundbreakingly sexy

Knowing the track record of goon projects I'd say there's about a 70% chance it'd produce the animated equivalent of scat.avi

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

ConfusedUs posted:

Did we get/are we getting a third season? Any word on if/when it will hit Disney+?

Third season already started, first seven episodes aired back in the spring, next episode is coming September 21st.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

How do I make this real? I need this to be a real movie.

Also, let's expand the universe with some video games: Gnomerwatch, Dragnome Age, Agnome Us

Fallout: Gnome Vegas

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
please do not gently caress history, it is very fragile

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Robindaybird posted:

Honestly out of the three Animaniacs, Freakazoid, and Tiny Toons - Tiny Toons holds up the best as it's the least topical-driven humor as it leans into the school setting and more classic loony toons nonsense into more modern setting, Animaniacs' man one is way more topical/pop-culture driven.

Freakazoid feels the most topical, and also a surprising huge amount of gags are basically In-Jokes only people familiar with SoCal would get - and why it aged the worst out of the three imho.

How dare you ignore Histeria! :colbert:

... Though granted, I haven't watched an episode since I was ten and from what little I remember it probably hasn't held up well either.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
TV animation instead of feature, but a quick reminder that Primal fuckin' rocks and everyone should watch it.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

It's not my kind of show, but man that's some slick animation (And some pretty good gags).

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
Soul review: It was good! Little rote, but great music and animation that really made it enjoyable to watch.

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Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Hedrigall posted:

https://twitter.com/neumaverick/status/1345886414987173888?s=20

The mufasa death music playing as my coffin lowers into the grave

A Whole New World as my body is wrapped in a carpet and dumped in the bosphorus

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