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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



a bunch of wolt (gig food delivery) workers are striking in denmark this weekend because wolt is changing their bonus model. used to be a 200 usd bonus if you did 100 deliveries fri-sun, but now its 2.50 per delivery between 5-8 pm same days.

wolt claims it will mean more money for the delivery people (yeah right lol)

its basically the same setup as in the states, the workers are "partners" (independent contractors), and arent unionized atm, but have been organizing thru social media, though apparently wolt negotiating is with the 3F union

last year, just-eat (also gig food delivery) signed an agreement with 3F, but it only covers about 10% of their workers. back then, wolt was all "this is a lame and bullshit agreement that doesn't do enough for the workers" :rolleye:

finally, the EU is working on adjusting anti-trust law so it doesnt cover gig workers. as written, the law would class independent contractors forming a union as if they were a price-fixing cartel

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

we just unanimously ratified the first contract for workers at the Guggenheim; the workers who run and take care of the building, build, install, and light exhibitions, and take care of the collection are unionized. average 10% raises, bonuses, union healthcare, no more favoritism in work schedules, on and on... and all in a pandemic and economic catastrophe

satisfying to see the guy who was management's election witness vote 'yes.' he deserves this as much as anyone else.

unionize or die

hell yeah

Carthag Tuek has issued a correction as of 16:11 on Feb 26, 2021

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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



apropos to nothing posted:

bessemer amazon union votes are all in, though it will likely be some weeks before the count is finished. seems like the vote could go either way, the campaign itself is much stronger than some of the other high profile union campaigns in the south over the last few years like the volkswaggen plant in tennessee which was heavily top down, but there are still some weaknesses. regardless of the count it will just be the beginning. if it wins the union will have a tough fight ahead in their first contract fight, and if it loses theres 100% an NLRB lawsuit there cause amazon has very brazenly violated labor law, would just be a question of how determined the workers are to keep fighting in the event of a loss which would be demoralizing and possibly destabilizing.

fingers crossed, comrade

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

We aren't affiliated with the union but we knocked on ninety percent of the doors in Bessemer over January and first half of Feb.

idk how to say it without using sports cliches, but you did a great job, maybe next time, etc

but i do appreciate the work you put in, and i do think you made a difference. it is a slow walk. i dunno i dont have the words except thank you for trying.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



theres a pretty severe backlash brewing in danish unions and local govts against the "americanized" gig economy atm

we'll see if theres any follow-thru from the govt, but im a stupid optimist

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



In Training posted:

we won our vote today :) onward to the contract

hell yea kick their asses

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



paying slave wages is free speech

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




hell yeah

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



I will try to write up what happened with the Danish Nurses Strike

Since the late 1960s, Denmark has a weird balance where there's no legally defined minimum wage, but workers and assholes make it work. It usually works, except when you're employed by the state in a traditionally female job. Basically in the 1960s, a bunch of dudes ranked jobs on a scale of how likely it was that there was a second income


.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



the nurses union has been calling to get aligned up to teachers for years now, but theres never any money (except for paying mandated overtime which is a different account i guess?)

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



so:

- danish nurses just had a 10 week strike
- they were offered a 5% raise over 3 years + "a comission to look into wage inequality"
- they voted no, 66% against
- the nominally "social democrat" party sadly flinched to the right and is now turning the garbage offer into law
- we are already 5000 nurses short, this is literally going to destroy the danish health care system

Carthag Tuek has issued a correction as of 03:04 on Aug 28, 2021

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



dead gay comedy forums posted:

jesus loving gently caress the ghouls

yeah tbh i wouldnt call it a raise, that's just maintaining parity with inflation

the nurses have started refusing overtime and extra shifts, and are doing 1 hour spot strikes this week, the latter likely being illegal and the state is bringing a suit to Arbejdsretten (NLRB equivalent)

i guess we'll see what happens

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



best of luck & solidarity to all strikes!

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



every step is important

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



yeah sorry that was a bit zen

im just glad for it lol

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



lmao at deere's weird "solution"

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



RC Cola posted:

I'm gonna die laughing when John Deere ends up with more union workers because they are such gently caress heads

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



unionization kicks rear end


in kinda related news, copenhagen municipality just fired Intervare / nemlig.com today, which they had used for grocery deliveries to old/handicapped citizens for a couple years

last year it came out in papers that intervare were using the classic "independent contractor" model (so basically uber etc). so the muni held back payments while looking into it & have been telling intervare to fix poo poo, but they didnt so now the muni cancelled the contract before its end date. also they reserved the back-held contract pay (something like 500k usd?) to instead pay directly to drivers

they were intervares biggest customer, so its gonna sting. intervare says they will sue for breach of contract but i dont think they will get far. first, because all public contracts have a "fair work" clause so they will probably have to make a case that they are not underpaying, and second because the danish tax authorities have already classified wolt (gig food delivery) "contractors" as actual employees for tax purposes, so theres a precedent for the workers there already

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



mrmcd posted:

Sounds like a cop union tbh.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



I guess that's why I saw a thing recently about Apple Store employees getting a dollar raise and more sick days

quote:

In addition to raises, Apple this week also told employees that it is introducing improved benefits. Apple now offers 12 paid sick days, up from six, and those days can be used for mental health leave, illnesses, or taking family members to the doctor.

The company also changed when employees are eligible for an increase in the number of vacation days they receive annually. Previously, Apple offered additional vacation days after five years of employment, but now additional vacation days are provided after three years. Part time employees are also now eligible for vacation days and up to six weeks of paid parental leave.

lmao so that's why they dont have apple stores in denmark.

im fairly sure apple store employees would qualify as funktionærer & get full pay during sick leave, though they are allowed to let you go if youre sick for 120 days (+ 1 month notice)

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



kingcobweb posted:

immediately tell me what funktionærer is before I assume it’s a George Clinton record

funk town era:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Law_on_Salaried_Employees

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




went to check the reactionaries at hackernews and lol some real brain genious takes there, but also a surprising (to me) amount of pro-union talk


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30548508

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



hell yea :woop:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



dont quote me, i didnt do any work. quote the union tweet or something

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



sad posted:

All for unionizing and stuff, hate to say it though but if you're working a mcjob/fastfood/service industry you should be more focused on trying to figure out how to improve your life for the better and what choices brought you here not "how can i exploit this situation to my advantage"
like, I completely understand that you dont wanna be there and that youre getting taken advantage of by a corporation but unionizing mcdonalds cooks and Starbucks barristas isn't a big win for socialism if anything it's the opposite because youre agreeing that this embarrassing line of work is something you take pride in

you should improve everyones life and stop posting

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



e: wtf you even registered to post that

good lord that is gross

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



its_happening.gif

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



In Training posted:

also of note the count was finished in the bessemer election, 875 YES - 993 NO, with 416 ballots challenged, meaning the challenged ballots will now be counted since they would determine the outcome of the election. im not sure in this instance how theyll swing but my gut (and limited experience) is that workers challenged by management for inclusion in the voter rolls tend Yes, since theyre being targeted/excluded by mgmt for a reason. itll be a few weeks now as the nlrb litigates the ballots but this could be two unionized workplaces for amazon in a month, with another election with ALU coming up in April. this year could get insane with organizational activity.

whats a "challenged ballot" in this context, like hanging chad fuckery?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



kingcobweb posted:

Amazon fired them for being pro-union and says they’re not eligible to vote. or they started too late for Amazon to say they’re eligible but they say they should be.

gently caress sake

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



ah

i suppose a union could challenge like scab votes if they were obvious enough about it

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



:yeshaha:

:qq: more fuckheads

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1508874180539863056

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



CoolCab posted:

“We want to thank Jeff Bezos for going to space, because while he was up there we were organizing a union,” said ALU President Chris Smalls after official results were announced.

lol and also this line should be in history books. it so eloquently summarizes the morbid symptoms of the day

that is a fantastic quote hah

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Tom Smykowski posted:

gently caress yes, gently caress bezos

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



:woop:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



In Training posted:

Ink is drying on our first contract. 15-25% raises across the entire staff, new guaranteed schedules and hours that we got to set, proper OT payouts+wage protection, plus more raises for the next 2 years. And more general protections like Just Cause and mediation, etc. Let's loving go.

:krad:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Our boss is cool with wfh, but it's not at all a formal right so it's definitely something we should work on getting recognized in case we get a lovely boss sometime down the line.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



what the gently caress

I mean clearly illegal but lol America but also give them hell idk what to say except I have :10bux: if you want it

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



you op absolutely know all this but i will write here what helped me anyway:

- ask softball questions, like "why am i being fired?" - we dont need you "so i can leave?" - no you should work the day out || if you just ask, they will self-incriminate
- immediately write down what happened as soon as you can (bathroom or whatever), preferably quote for quote. put a date on it.
- call your union, they will have your back

Carthag Tuek has issued a correction as of 00:48 on Apr 23, 2022

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



i broke down crying at work one time & locked myself in the bathroom until my dad could come pick me up. my boss was annoyed, i think. didnt get fired tho, unions & laws do help

i later quit & then bosssman fired my brother in unprovable retaliation (who actually did better work than me, so good job idiot boss)

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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



cheers to all unions and organizers the world over

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