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 So, what's this about? Final Fantasy IV: Free Enterprise, to quote the website: "...is an open-world romhack and scavenger hunt randomizer for Final Fantasy IV for the SNES (originally released in English as Final Fantasy II)". The basics functions of the hack are: 1.) Key plot maguffins are thrown about in various locations where they were not normally obtained (e.g. you might get the Package from Luca, or the Legend sword from the Antlion) 2.) Characters are randomized. You might start was Edward and Porom, or find Kain on the way up Mt. Ordeals 3.) You start with the Enterprise (hence the name), so you're free to go anywhere in the overworld that the airship can access normally. ...What's the point of that? The results of the randomizer are....fairly hilarious sometimes. Of course, they are downright cruel sometimes, too. The RNGod giveth, the RNGod taketh away.... Is it totally random? Well, it's as random as you want it to be! There are a butt-ton of combinations you can set the randomizer to, from limiting what party members you will be able to recruit over the course of the run, to specific victory conditions, to what items the shops carry....there's a lot, okay? You can check out everything there is to offer from the official website: http://ff4fe.com/ What's your plan with this? Myself and Dewgy are planning a few variations of runs. they are 1.) Straight randomized, finish the game the"traditional" way (beat the final boss) 2.) Running with various win conditions that DO NOT involve beating the final boss (there are several alternative win conditions that we can explore) 3.) Specific-character runs (the thread name is a hint....God help us all....) ...and how are we involved? If you feel like it, you can play along at home! I will be sure to include the flag string and seed number for each run--that way, you can create the same randomized game we are playing and experience what we're doing first hand Also, we'll be entertaining thread requests for run criteria. It could be as simple as one modification, or as complex as the entire setup. If you have a request, put it in BOLD please. Dewgy or I will keep track of what's asked for, and we'll try and cobble together some of them Sounds fun drat straight. EPISODES: RUN 1: "Traditional" run (Beat the final boss, items/characters/bosses shuffled heavily)  Part 1: #YangGang https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W3-yGvFspc Part 2: Choco-Bono https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQqWNbIia8w Part 3: Kain Kain'll Make Ya (Jump Jump) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8citrtsetQY Part 4: Madame Yang's Big Brass Balls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFpbySvHj_c Part 5: Edward's Not here, Man! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfGxySgtK4Q Part 6: Marvel vs. Final Fantasy: Clash of the Stupid Heroes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDEpMx7X-0k RUN 2: Fiends% run (defeat Milon, Milon Z, Kainazzo, Valvalis, Rubicant & Combined Fiends boss battles to win), start with non-vanilla FuSoYa  Part 1: Lawful Good Paula Deen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4232VefXf4 Part 2: Dude, Where's My Hovercar? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix0q7aa2v8U Part 3: Truly Outrageous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmFbXbeu_k4 Part 4: I Just Rubi-can't Right Now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU9iDUCvsPM RUN 3: Dark Matter Hunt (find 30 of 45 randomly scattered Dark Matters in chests around the world) with alternate Fabul gauntlet and 3 other random objectives  Part 1: FF IV: The Before Years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_DUbPF1dGo Part 2: Peak Idiocy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZNrEPA1fXg Part 3: Operation PanDonk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGFe8qTQD8o Part 4: 90% Beard by Volume https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhOrwxbZsB8 RUN 4 FIVE EDWARD FIESTA ("traditional" endgame, only Edwards, no equipable spoon, no Adamant armor, summon bosses hold key items, shop items are free)  Part 1: Five Edward Fiesta! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLmthyhuL8E Part 2: The Rise of Thinkomus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9TCR_u2d7M Hope that you enjoyed! See you next thread! 
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This has been a really fun mod to see evolve over time too. We’ve been doing trial runs of this for a while now, and they keep improving the site, the options, and the randomizer itself to stop no-win states and the like. It’s such a good concept and really well done, puts a ton of replay value into FF4’s world and systems.
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Jan 9, 2020 23:23
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ooh, ground floor! 
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Jan 10, 2020 04:15
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Looking forward to something crazy. Not Five Jobber Fiesta crazy but who knows.
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Jan 10, 2020 04:36
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How fun! FFIV randomizer ends up feeling oddly like a zelda randomizer in the way that item checks are the most important things, and certain item placements can increase the playtime by hours. Hoping for Mist Dragon in Babil 
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Jan 10, 2020 10:33
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I've subscribed to the Youtube account for Free Enterprise and I'm still on my way through the World Series. Getting through Edward% as you made this, so I'm excited to see if you check out some of their ideas to make it a little easier on yourselves! FE is my favorite randomizer ever, so I'm looking forward to this!
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Jan 10, 2020 14:36
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This looks interesting! I'm always into seeing what people can do with old video games.
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Jan 10, 2020 15:11
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A significant chunk of last year was spent watching FE runs, and also in getting way back into not just FF4 but TAY... so maybe FE is evil.
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Jan 10, 2020 15:34
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Gloomy Rube posted:How fun! FFIV randomizer ends up feeling oddly like a zelda randomizer in the way that item checks are the most important things, and certain item placements can increase the playtime by hours. Hoping for Mist Dragon in Babil Well, here's hoping for NO HOOK SEEDS!  Leraika posted:This looks interesting! I'm always into seeing what people can do with old video games. It's pretty crazy how much they've dissected this game with the available flags. It's always awesome to see how much new life you can breathe into an old game like this.
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Jan 10, 2020 22:50
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You know, if this was the GBA version an all Edward team wouldn't be bad at all. His high end weapons got absurd. I'm excited to see what all you're gonna do
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Jan 10, 2020 23:44
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:You know, if this was the GBA version an all Edward team wouldn't be bad at all. His high end weapons got absurd. I'm excited to see what all you're gonna do From what I understand, Edward’s stat scaling just straight up breaks around level 70, and he’s extremely OP. Takes a bunch of grinding, sure, but you gotta have dedication if you want to start a superband.
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Jan 10, 2020 23:48
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Dewgy posted:From what I understand, Edward’s stat scaling just straight up breaks around level 70, and he’s extremely OP. Takes a bunch of grinding, sure, but you gotta have dedication if you want to start a superband. Edward in general is actually really good if you know how to use him-- hide allows for cheese strats of a lot of different bosses (including Zeromus) and give him a bow and he's very good. I've always been a big advocate for him, even without the spoon flag active, which, well. Well. I'm a mid-tier racer and semi-regular commentator (though I've stepped back a little from that lately) on races, so I can answer questions about competitive strategy, if anyone's curious. I can also talk about the best strat in the game: quintzerk.
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Jan 11, 2020 11:44
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Well, we're finally at the starting line! Give it up for the #YangGang! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W3-yGvFspc Looks like this might be a fairly friendly seed thus far. I'm hoping I can get some higher-powered replacements in soon, but it'll do for now. ...also funnier this way, too, until I run into Golbez or some other stupidly powerful boss that wrecks my day (which almost happens here!)
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Jan 12, 2020 05:28
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Looks like it's going well so far. The last topic got me interested in Free Enterprise, but I didn't give it a shot myself. Until now. Cecil, Tellah, Cecil, Rosa, Cid. With Edward hanging out in the Underground waterway.
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Jan 12, 2020 09:38
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MightyPretenders posted:Looks like it's going well so far. The key here is "so far". We've already almost had a team wipe and I can promise we probably will soon enough. Glad you're getting into this. It's really fascinating how they've essentially created a whole new game out of this with all the options available.
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Jan 12, 2020 13:44
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Also, if you care to play along at home, the seed flags and number are here: If you DO play along at home SPOILERS ONLY BEHIND SPOILER TAGS, PLEASE
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Jan 12, 2020 13:59
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Oh I've caught a few races of this mod, and looks great. It'll be more fun to watch it at a slower pace though.
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Jan 12, 2020 21:49
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Professor Duck posted:Also, if you care to play along at home, the seed flags and number are here: You can just link that page to directly let people generate the seed, FYI.
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Jan 13, 2020 00:01
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New updates! We do more stuff and don't die horribly! I give Dewgy something to draw!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQqWNbIia8w I'll be making some roster changes for the next installment, so bid a fond farewell to the #YangGang. They served us well, but we need some tank-ier people in the party.
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Jan 15, 2020 21:46
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The one chest in Eblan castle is through a hidden tunnel on the same screen a space or two above the entrance tile. I may or may not have had to look that up myself. Also, get the Kain Train rolling.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:46
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True to form, I can’t find my drat iPad stylus, so the drawing will have to wait a bit. It’s gonna be...something. 
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Jan 16, 2020 20:29
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So is the mod kind/smart enough to not spawn an unwinnable seed? As in, not putting a key item behind a door you need that item to get through. Like the Earth Crystal behind Zot.
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Jan 16, 2020 21:33
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Weeble posted:So is the mod kind/smart enough to not spawn an unwinnable seed? The randomizer has settings to allow or prevent that.
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Weeble posted:So is the mod kind/smart enough to not spawn an unwinnable seed? I think I ran into one of those a LOT of versions ago, but I'm pretty sure that you can finish* anything it generates *"finish" might not be the correct word, but the progression of key items allows for a path to victory, at least. If you, say, run into Wyvern and Ogopogo early, you might not get too far.... Of course, that's not possible with the safety check on, but....what fun are safety checks?
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Weeble posted:So is the mod kind/smart enough to not spawn an unwinnable seed? Yeah, it won't ever cause a softlock due to key item placement. It is possible to place yourself into an unwinnable situation through other means like being gated by bosses you can't hope to kill, but you've got to go well out of your way to actually set that.
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neongrey posted:Yeah, it won't ever cause a softlock due to key item placement. It is possible to place yourself into an unwinnable situation through other means like being gated by bosses you can't hope to kill, but you've got to go well out of your way to actually set that. Like I said, what's the fun in safety checks? Anyway, here's the latest installment of our adventure through this randomized scavenger hunt! We switch up the party and I realize all too late that I had a stupid joke on my hands and didn't use it until the end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8citrtsetQY we do have a path to the moon now, so we may be headed off that way soon
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Jan 19, 2020 20:45
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First couple minutes of the video and you find a shiny Gardevoir. Nice.
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Jan 19, 2020 22:22
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Weeble posted:First couple minutes of the video and you find a shiny Gardevoir. Y’know, I thought that color scheme looked familiar! Our high rate of ultra weapons this run is definitely something new, too. We had a ton of dry runs for good weapons, so we can keep the momentum going this time.  Also, as promised: Choco-Bono. 
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Jan 20, 2020 04:48
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So do you have to teach the summons to each Rydia, or do they spread through the Rydia hivemind so that once one Rydia learns a summon, all Rydias know it? Also, I eagerly await when you find a shop selling Bahamut and buy it, considering that the first thing you did when you got Rydia was teach her Bahamut, and then 30 seconds later started talking about wanting to find Bahamut to teach her. Or are there two summons that Baham could be? Honest question, I haven't played FFIV in a long time.
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Randalor posted:So do you have to teach the summons to each Rydia, or do they spread through the Rydia hivemind so that once one Rydia learns a summon, all Rydias know it? That's.....actually a really good question. I'm not 100% sure, but I would think that all Rydias learn the summons you pick up. I don't think we'll stumble across that in a shop--I've been to all of them in the game (I think) Professor Duck fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Jan 20, 2020 14:31
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Wait, then what did Baham teach her?
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Jan 20, 2020 14:34
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Randalor posted:Wait, then what did Baham teach her? Yeah, I'm dumb. I was thinking of the wrong thing. She knows it Also, ALL of the Rydias know the summons I picked up, to answer the question from before e: I was thinking she didn't know Bahamut earlier. She doesn't know Sylph--that's the extra summon she's missing.
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Jan 20, 2020 14:35
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WHO'S GOT BIG BALLS?! Yang's wife, apparently.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFpbySvHj_c
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Jan 23, 2020 22:33
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Professor Duck posted:WHO'S GOT BIG BALLS?! But I thought we had the biggest balls of them all... 
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Jan 23, 2020 22:42
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Dewgy posted:But I thought we had the biggest balls of them all... bamboozled again 
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Jan 23, 2020 22:48
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I don't know why you guys are so surprised at Yang's wife giving you the package, she just meant for you to deliver it to those sylph hussies that her husband was two-timing on her with. Also, with the randomizer being able to double up on characters, I wish it had a way to do alternate sprites rather than just alternate palates. Wife instead of Yang, Black Mage and White Mage instead of Palom and Porom, Golbez instead of Cecil, Lucca instead of Cid! ...okay, that's all I got for Sprite swaps. Though the alternate palates are nice at least.
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All those dead ends in the Sealed Cave just make think back to all the dead end rooms in the actual FFII. Those spawned you into the middle of the room and had increased encounter rates. Also: Putting the Heroine Robes on your two mages is not a good idea. It neuters their magic. It's a piece of armor designed for meme stuff like a whip-wielding physically oriented Rydia. Weeble fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Jan 24, 2020 |
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Jan 24, 2020 04:47
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Just caught up on the videos. Yang's wife handing you the package was priceless.
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Jan 24, 2020 05:03
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Isn't Tellah the black olive in the randomizer rather than Edward?
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It's Eblan(a), not Elban(a). There are even on-screen labels! Thanks for this playthrough; FFIV was my first FF and is probably still my favorite, warts and all. It's what inspired me to become a translator (surprisingly, not because of the wonky translation) and sparked my dream of working for Square Enix, which did eventually come true. I'm torn now between playing my own randomized game and just playing the vanilla game through yet again; the more I see of your playthrough, though, the closer I inch to a random run. 
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