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| Kirk Cousins, lol |
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20 | 10.15% |
| Lamar's MVP gets run over |
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61 | 30.96% |
| The Texans play the greatest quarter of football |
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107 | 54.31% |
| <Tom Hanks Voice> WILSON |
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9 | 4.57% |
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Jan 13, 2020 20:34
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Bill o Brien is a communist hero
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Jan 13, 2020 20:34
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Just heard an interview with Matthew Coller. He said that if Saints had beaten the Vikings, ownership had decided to fire Zimmer and not extend Cousins. Now, they were so impressed by the win that they're definitely going to extend Cousins and give Zimmer another shot. That's three jobs that Sean Payton's ineptitude saved.
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Jan 13, 2020 20:40
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cpranger posted:Just heard an interview with Matthew Coller. He said that if Saints had beaten the Vikings, ownership had decided to fire Zimmer and not extend Cousins. Now, they were so impressed by the win that they're definitely going to extend Cousins and give Zimmer another shot. He’s playing the long con.
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Jan 13, 2020 20:45
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Shadow225 posted:If you have no vested rooting interest, I think that this playoff season may be the most entertaining in the last 20 years overall. There is at least some variety. San Francisco: won 5 superbowls, last win in 1994, last appearance 2012. Green Bay: won 4 superbowls, last win in 2010, last appearance 2010. Kansas City: won 1 superbowl, last win 1969, last appearance 1969 (!). Tennessee: never won a superbowl, last appearance 1999. So yeah, last winner from the final four was 10 years ago, last appearance was 8 years ago. We're finally free of the Ben-Peyton-Tom(-Flacco?) curse.
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Jan 13, 2020 20:48
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I have a vested interest in one of the remaining teams, but honestly I'm okay with any of them winning if it can't be the Packers. My biggest preference would be a Chiefs/Mahomes/Reid Super Bowl win. A close 2nd would be Tannehill getting a ring simply because that would own. But I respect the heck out of this particular 49ers team. I think they've been really impressive all year.
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Jan 13, 2020 21:05
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cpranger posted:Just heard an interview with Matthew Coller. He said that if Saints had beaten the Vikings, ownership had decided to fire Zimmer and not extend Cousins. Now, they were so impressed by the win that they're definitely going to extend Cousins and give Zimmer another shot. I'm fine with Zimmer staying but please god do not extend cousins.
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Jan 13, 2020 21:09
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Very bad day for Houston sports teams
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Jan 13, 2020 21:12
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Owns.
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Jan 13, 2020 21:15
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OxySnake posted:I'm fine with Zimmer staying but please god do not extend cousins. Cousins has given Minnesota a very Cousins-like performance, which is what they brought him in for. Turns out that a Cousins-like performance simply isn't enough, especially with the team being questionable in other areas. Cousins still has a year under contract, and I wouldn't mind maybe giving him one more year to serve as a sort of bridge, but I feel that overall the search for a replacement should begin now. The Vikings would probably be a better team with a young passer and Cousins' cap hit put towards other needs. He doesn't need to be replaced right this second, he will continue giving them mediocre to good performances, but they should really have a hard think about whether winning a super bowl is really possible with Cousins and where they might want to go after they move on
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Jan 13, 2020 21:32
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I hear Jeff Luhnow is available.
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Jan 13, 2020 21:32
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surf rock posted:Patrick Mahomes before the game, probably: Cool you gonna do one for after the game where he calculates how much they want to gently caress?
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Jan 13, 2020 21:48
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Finger Prince posted:Cool you gonna do one for after the game where he calculates how much they want to gently caress? ahem that's for my own personal files
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Jan 13, 2020 21:49
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Jan 13, 2020 21:53
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Play posted:Cousins has given Minnesota a very Cousins-like performance, which is what they brought him in for. Turns out that a Cousins-like performance simply isn't enough, especially with the team being questionable in other areas. Cousins still has a year under contract, and I wouldn't mind maybe giving him one more year to serve as a sort of bridge, but I feel that overall the search for a replacement should begin now. The Vikings would probably be a better team with a young passer and Cousins' cap hit put towards other needs. Minnesota has the same problem that every team has with a mid-tier QB, it takes a lot of loving capital to move up to get a good guy in the draft so you either try and build a great team around your average QB or trade it all for a chance at a great QB.
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Jan 13, 2020 21:54
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 both should have gone in before cowher or johnson imo but RINGZ (in the case of coryell anyway, poo poo, flores has the rings even)
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Jan 13, 2020 21:56
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Play posted:Cousins has given Minnesota a very Cousins-like performance, which is what they brought him in for. Turns out that a Cousins-like performance simply isn't enough, especially with the team being questionable in other areas. Cousins still has a year under contract, and I wouldn't mind maybe giving him one more year to serve as a sort of bridge, but I feel that overall the search for a replacement should begin now. The Vikings would probably be a better team with a young passer and Cousins' cap hit put towards other needs. Very few QBs could survive the onslaught of SF against a line as bad as Minnesota's. I wouldn't be surprised if Mahomes looked bad in that position. You need a guy like Russell or Lamar if your o line is that bad.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:05
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DariusLikewise posted:Minnesota has the same problem that every team has with a mid-tier QB, it takes a lot of loving capital to move up to get a good guy in the draft so you either try and build a great team around your average QB or trade it all for a chance at a great QB. Yeah they might have to get creative, but it's not like decent QBs can't be found outside of the first round occasionally, or through free agency. Look at the Titans, I would take Tannehill over Cousins and probably would have even before his comeback. Hell Cousins himself is one such mid-round QB, it's just that he's no longer as worth it because he's getting paid like a superstar
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Jan 13, 2020 22:07
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Hopefully the Packers learned some lessons from the last time they played SF. I think it'll be closer than last time.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:09
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Leon Einstein posted:Hopefully the Packers learned some lessons from the last time they played SF. I think it'll be closer than last time. Only gonna lose by 16 this time.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:10
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Why is Bill Cowher even worthy of being in the Hall of Fame? Longetivity? Stubbornness? I don't recall him being any kind of great innovator.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:11
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You can win a Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins, but you have to have a very good offensive line and also be lucky enough to get through 3-4 playoff rounds without facing a dominant defensive front 7. Like if the Vikings had been able to draw the Packers and Seahawks last weekend and next, they could have won. But a team with Cousins can't beat the 49ers, or any team with that level of line of scrimmage whoop-rear end. Most quarterbacks who aren't Russell Wilson play much worse when you harass and hit them (pressuring the opposing QB is important, who knew??) but Cousins is something else entirely. He has every skill a QB needs, except that he has NO sense of timing, feel for the rush, etc. whatsoever and panics as soon as anyone gets remotely near him. Having Cousins on your team means it's never going to be bad unless your o-line is bad, you'll always win like 8-10 games because half the teams you play don't have a good pass rush and Cousins will roast you if you don't pressure him. But it also means any team you play that has a top-notch pass rush is going to beat you pretty much 100% of the time. He's a top ten QB in the league right now and it's not easy to find a QB as good as him overall, but with such an obvious flaw, and with so many other good players about to need paid, the Vikings are probably best off letting him go and using the cap space on some other guys, and hoping to find a much cheaper, not-terrible QB to go forward with IMO. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Jan 13, 2020 22:12
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Why is Bill Cowher even worthy of being in the Hall of Fame? Longetivity? Stubbornness? Decided to quit instead of dealing with Ben roethlisberger.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:12
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Fenrir posted:
It doesn’t get the same press as the West Coast offense did, but the list of teams that basically took Coryell’s offense or basic system and then won is pretty impressive. Gibbs used it in Washington, regularly adjusting it to fit his teams’ strengths, and won 3 out of 4 trips. Dallas used the same terminology and some of the concepts in the early-90s, as would the Greatest Show on Turf Rams.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:22
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FizFashizzle posted:Decided to quit instead of dealing with Ben roethlisberger. Ah, the morals and integrity argument.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:23
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Cowher (like his mentor Marty Schottenheimer, and also like fellow Marty disciple Tony Dungy*) really hated the increasingly passing-centric way the league was evolving in the 2000s. He lobbied ownership, successfully, against drafting Chad Pennington in 2000 (he wanted, and got, Plaxico Burress) and lobbied unsuccessfully against drafting Roethlisberger in 2004 (he wanted offensive tackle Shawn Andrews). Roethlisberger helped get Cowher a ring he wouldn't have gotten otherwise, and Peyton Manning did the same for Dungy, but they both retired soon afterward and never returned. It's pretty funny that Cowher and Dungy have both been on TV a decade-plus when they both hate modern football, but I guess it's to their credit they don't preach about how sissy football has become every chance they get. (* Dungy was actually DC in Pittsburgh for a few years in the 80s so he technically counts as part of the Chuck Noll tree, but he worked for Cowher/Schottenheimer for 3 years in KC after that and is definitely the same kind of coach as them philosophically)
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Jan 13, 2020 22:25
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So you're saying Bill Cowher was a prophet of the Run in the dark times?
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Jan 13, 2020 22:26
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No no, Cowher could have been the Prophet of Run and Stop the Run, but he refused the call and Jeff Fisher became the voice crying in the wilderness instead.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:30
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Leon Einstein posted:Hopefully the Packers learned some lessons from the last time they played SF. I think it'll be closer than last time. At the very least I don't think they'll go 1/15 on 3rd down or whatever it was.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:56
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I think the Chiefs terrible run defense will cause them beaucoup problems and I think Jimmy G is a fraud. Titans v GB in the superbowl.
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Jan 13, 2020 23:02
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Leon Einstein posted:Hopefully the Packers learned some lessons from the last time they played SF. I think it'll be closer than last time. Honestly I think this is where we run straight into the talent wall. We just dont have enough offensive talent to put up much of a fight against that defense now that they're healthy again. Outside of Rodgers literally playing another perfect game or some catastrophe befalling the 9ers I dont really see a way to win this game. We have absolutely no answer for kittle, and once they take away jones and Adams theres nobody left that's a threat. Its gonna be even worse if (when) rodgers tries to play hero ball and hangs on to the ball longer than 2 seconds and is annihilated. It's been a hell of a run though and maybe handsome jim will get nervous and throw 4 pick 6s
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Jan 13, 2020 23:05
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Agreed. Barring an implosion by the Niners I just don't see the Packers beating them on the road.
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Jan 13, 2020 23:09
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Pokemaster #421 posted:Honestly I think this is where we run straight into the talent wall. We just dont have enough offensive talent to put up much of a fight against that defense now that they're healthy again. Outside of Rodgers literally playing another perfect game or some catastrophe befalling the 9ers I dont really see a way to win this game. A lot of the stuff they did against the Seahawks might work against the 49ers, and we actually saw them having some success late in that blowout game. Mostly, attacking the edges with quick passes and mini screens while the 49ers defense is mostly concentrated in the middle. Still think the 49ers should win, but a QB like Rodgers and a pretty decent team like the Packers have enough juice to beat the 49ers. If Rodgers plays well and Jimmy G just plays okay it could end up being that simple. Or maybe the 49ers will simply run it down their throats and they won't be able to stop it like the Vikings, that's also a possibility
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Jan 13, 2020 23:23
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OxySnake posted:Only gonna lose by 16 this time. Yeah, sounds about right
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Jan 13, 2020 23:28
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surf rock posted:Patrick Mahomes before the game, probably: 
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Jan 13, 2020 23:30
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Play posted:A lot of the stuff they did against the Seahawks might work against the 49ers, and we actually saw them having some success late in that blowout game. Mostly, attacking the edges with quick passes and mini screens while the 49ers defense is mostly concentrated in the middle. I don't know if the Niners would commit to the let the running back go six yards a carry every run strat like the Seahawks seemed to
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Jan 13, 2020 23:45
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Loool https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1216853867100561414?s=19
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Jan 13, 2020 23:48
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Bears offense is gonna be dog poo poo again. Cool. Fun. Edit:. You're not going to get anyone even remotely competent when the guy you're hiring knows they won't even be calling plays. fishing with the fam fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Jan 13, 2020 23:56
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Why won't this team take playcalling away from Nagy and bring in a real OC? Shurmur would have been a nice fit.
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Jan 14, 2020 00:01
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Niwrad posted:Why won't this team take playcalling away from Nagy and bring in a real OC? Shurmur would have been a nice fit. Because they brought Nagy in based on his track record as the OC for Patrick Mahomes. It was a bad hire and they won't admit it because BEARS.
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