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Most Embarrassing Loss of the Divisional Round
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Kirk Cousins, lol 20 10.15%
Lamar's MVP gets run over 61 30.96%
The Texans play the greatest quarter of football 107 54.31%
<Tom Hanks Voice> WILSON 9 4.57%
Total: 197 votes
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Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

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In The Year of Our Lord 2020 an NFL team beat the reigning champions and this year’s #1 team back-to-back, on the road, with their quarterback throwing for 160 yards.

Not in each game. Combined.

Oh, Mike :allears:

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Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Kordell Stewart should get a ring too, in that case

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
You can win a Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins, but you have to have a very good offensive line and also be lucky enough to get through 3-4 playoff rounds without facing a dominant defensive front 7. Like if the Vikings had been able to draw the Packers and Seahawks last weekend and next, they could have won. But a team with Cousins can't beat the 49ers, or any team with that level of line of scrimmage whoop-rear end.

Most quarterbacks who aren't Russell Wilson play much worse when you harass and hit them (pressuring the opposing QB is important, who knew??) but Cousins is something else entirely. He has every skill a QB needs, except that he has NO sense of timing, feel for the rush, etc. whatsoever and panics as soon as anyone gets remotely near him.

Having Cousins on your team means it's never going to be bad unless your o-line is bad, you'll always win like 8-10 games because half the teams you play don't have a good pass rush and Cousins will roast you if you don't pressure him. But it also means any team you play that has a top-notch pass rush is going to beat you pretty much 100% of the time. He's a top ten QB in the league right now and it's not easy to find a QB as good as him overall, but with such an obvious flaw, and with so many other good players about to need paid, the Vikings are probably best off letting him go and using the cap space on some other guys, and hoping to find a much cheaper, not-terrible QB to go forward with IMO.

Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jan 13, 2020

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Cowher (like his mentor Marty Schottenheimer, and also like fellow Marty disciple Tony Dungy*) really hated the increasingly passing-centric way the league was evolving in the 2000s. He lobbied ownership, successfully, against drafting Chad Pennington in 2000 (he wanted, and got, Plaxico Burress) and lobbied unsuccessfully against drafting Roethlisberger in 2004 (he wanted offensive tackle Shawn Andrews). Roethlisberger helped get Cowher a ring he wouldn't have gotten otherwise, and Peyton Manning did the same for Dungy, but they both retired soon afterward and never returned.

It's pretty funny that Cowher and Dungy have both been on TV a decade-plus when they both hate modern football, but I guess it's to their credit they don't preach about how sissy football has become every chance they get.

(* Dungy was actually DC in Pittsburgh for a few years in the 80s so he technically counts as part of the Chuck Noll tree, but he worked for Cowher/Schottenheimer for 3 years in KC after that and is definitely the same kind of coach as them philosophically)

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
No no, Cowher could have been the Prophet of Run and Stop the Run, but he refused the call and Jeff Fisher became the voice crying in the wilderness instead.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Reid is an easy Hall of Famer even without a Super Bowl. Bud Grant and Marv Levy are in, Reid has more wins with a better WL% than both. (OK, he's a few percentage points behind Grant, with 3 years' worth of extra games.)

Once Dungy (139-69, 9-10 playoffs, 1 ring) went in there was not really much argument for leaving Cowher (149-90, 12-9 playoffs, 1 ring) out.

The HOF standards are lower than you might think

e: I mean you or me personally might wish the standards were a lot higher, but they aren't

e2: The anti-Reid argument is that the proper comp for him isn't Bud Grant, but Marty Schottenheimer, whose regular season record of 200-126 is spectacular but who is not in the HoF because his postseason record of 5-13, uhhh.... isn't. Reid has an almost identical regular season W-L (I think they briefly DID have an identical career record at one point earlier this year), a much better playoffs W-L.

Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jan 14, 2020

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

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Andy Reid has coached like 20+ playoff games, and do you know how many of them have been truly unprecedently bizarre in some way or another? All of them.

No one has a clue what is going to happen when the Tennessee Titans play the Kansas City Andy Reids except that it will be loving weird

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

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pasaluki posted:

When even Drew Rosenhaus throws up his hands AB has got to be into some hosed up poo poo right now.

Rosenhaus is taking the opportunity to peace out because it’s clear Brown will never play in the NFL again and so there’s no more money to be made off him.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Pretty sure Goodell has made it known that he's suspended for a year starting the day someone signs him, and the chances he can go a year without publicly doing something batshit are 0.0%, so I don't think anyone is going to go near him, and Rosenhaus appears to concur.

But yeah if he wants to have the tiniest sliver of a chance to play in the NFL again rehab for at least a month is probably a necessary first step.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Florida's where people go when they retire right

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

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CharlestheHammer posted:

Revelations is hard to read because it’s all just events happening with no relationship to each other and then it just ends

Just like real life

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Put him behind by double digits when everyone knows he has to throw and it turns out Ryan Tannehill sucks. Who could have known???

e: Seriously though I'd rather be kind to Tannehill and assume the Chiefs coverage was awesome, rather than that he repeatedly froze up and just stood there patting the ball until the rush got there and he took a sack/threw it away. I wish to god the TV broadcasts would give us an angle that shows the coverage more often than just the occasional replay.

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Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Today was the first AFC Championship game featuring none of Brady/Manning/Roethlisberger since the renowned Gannon-McNair duel of 17 years ago. For that alone, today was a Good Day.

Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jan 20, 2020

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