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https://twitter.com/glenmazzara/status/1216931920799395840 His whole thread is worth a read.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 05:19 |
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gently caress THE OSCARS ITS 2020 AND THEY DON T KNOW poo poo, THEY ARE IRRELEVANT TRASH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhcLEl5ZYB0 BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Jan 15, 2020 |
# ? Jan 15, 2020 11:31 |
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Anonymous John posted:https://twitter.com/glenmazzara/status/1216931920799395840 I think it's more that they just didn't bother to watch them because they weren't interested in them. And you can't vote for something you didn't watch. And a studio isn't going to invest their For Your Consideration dollars on something that a large chunk of the Academy won't watch and subsequently won't vote for because the majority of the voters are white men, so they don't push as many of those films. Less sinister, more depressing.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 15:08 |
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Timeless Appeal posted:It sucks that two years in a row, the Best Film in the Best Picture category is going to basically get disqualified because it's just going to win Best Foreign Film. Nightingale broke me more than any other film in a long time. It really blew me away.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 15:34 |
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If we're posting our bizarro Oscars, mine would include at least 6 or 8 nominations for The Beach Bum. It was better than Joker!
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 16:12 |
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:Midsommar getting snubbed in general is pretty embarrassing for the Academy. In what world were they ever gonna nominate Midsommar for anything? edit: I think the frustrating thing this year is the abundance of quality films that were completely within the realm of plausibility for getting nominations and had the awards campaigns to back them: Uncut Gems, The Farewell, Dolemite is my Name, Portrait of a Lady on Fire... There were legitimate options that were actually in conversation and they snubbed them all for Joker and Bombshell. TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Jan 15, 2020 |
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TrixRabbi posted:In what world were they ever gonna nominate Midsommar for anything? Maybe in the 70s
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 16:40 |
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:If we're posting our bizarro Oscars, mine would include at least 6 or 8 nominations for The Beach Bum. It was better than Joker! Martin Lawrence should have a Supporting Actor nomination for propelling the best scenes of any movie in 2019.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 17:38 |
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People tend to talk about the Oscars in such conspiratorial terms, but they're just the product of 7,000 people picking movies without actually having to watch movies. It naturally generates nonsensical results. If you want awards chosen by people who actually watch movies, any of the critics awards are likely to vex you less. The Critics' Choice Awards is probably closest to what people think the Oscars should look like. The National Society of Film Critics Awards is more accepting of foreign films.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 18:08 |
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Frankly it is an embarrassment that the Oscars didn't nominate Heimat is a Space in Time for anything!
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 19:20 |
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TrixRabbi posted:Frankly it is an embarrassment that the Oscars didn't nominate Heimat is a Space in Time for anything! Haven't seen it but I'm not opposed to this sentiment
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 19:38 |
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Vegetable posted:People tend to talk about the Oscars in such conspiratorial terms, but they're just the product of 7,000 people picking movies without actually having to watch movies. It naturally generates nonsensical results. As much as this is true, it remains astounding to me that the Academy leadership, who I'd argue is concerned with optics more than most anything, has continued to botch its own image crisis year after year and make things worse. Obviously they can't shape the whole industry but it's incredible that their messaging is so tone-deaf.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 22:05 |
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:If we're posting our bizarro Oscars, mine would include at least 6 or 8 nominations for The Beach Bum. It was better than Joker! Pretty brutal satire, was kinda depressing to sit through imo.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 22:55 |
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one of my favorite hip-hop/culture blogs posted a really cool article imagining what a Best Casting Director Oscar would have looked like over the last 20 years. I want to share my favorite thing about one of my favorite movies, but you should really read the whole deal.quote:Up to this point when we’ve discussed casting and how the award has been decided, much of it has to do with stars and how they’re utilized in the context of a specific story. But the wallpaper of a film, the extras, the silent or one line bit parts, it’s all texture that contributes to the final product. This year recognizes The Coens and their longtime casting director Ellen Chenoweth for the way the people on the edges of their film complete the picture and the stories they are trying to tell. The Coen Brothers and Chenoweth could conceivably win this award every year. No directors have the same knack for finding faces and characters that feel authentic and sound like they are direct products of their dark, dumb, silly universe.
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 01:57 |
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Soderbergh movies also have great casting. Even his mediocre movies like The Laundromat fill all their roles with surprising, talented actors who aren't necessarily huge stars.
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 02:26 |
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Honestly, I think part of the problem is that people expect niche films to win out in a democratic vote of thousands of people. Like, The Nightingale was never, ever going to get nominated, because a very large chunk of the Academy just flat out isn't gonna want to watch a movie about brutal rape. Uncut Gems got snubbed because you have to be willing to see an Adam Sandler movie, and also able to enjoy one where he's deliberately playing an insufferable piece of poo poo, to be in its niche. Midsommar requires you to be into gory, nihilistic horror to enjoy it at all. Are these some of the best films of the year? Sure, maybe. Are they gonna get any attention in an awards ceremony that's polling thousands of people across all tastes for nominations and awards? Fuuuuuck no.
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 05:42 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Honestly, I think part of the problem is that people expect niche films to win out in a democratic vote of thousands of people. I don't buy this line.
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 09:00 |
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Eddie Murphy getting snubbed for Dolemite is some loving bullshit.
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 10:15 |
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Am I the only one shocked at all the praise 1917 is getting? It just seems like a knockoff version of Dunkirk.
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 10:22 |
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Euphoriaphone posted:Am I the only one shocked at all the praise 1917 is getting? It just seems like a knockoff version of Dunkirk. That movie is poo. Mendes is poo.
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 10:24 |
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Faster posted:I rarely have an emotional reaction to Oscar nominations but Apollo 11 but not getting a nod is pretty disappointing and surprising given the critical reception and box office performance. I just came here to say this. This is a crime.
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 20:54 |
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It was in the shortlist, so there's no reason it wouldn't have been eligible. I love that 'Cats' was in the VFX shortlist, did they just assume it wasn't going to be released looking like a complete mess? Says everything about the process. Terminator Dark Fate also shortlisted despite the fact you can see where the money effects are, and where they just said 'gently caress it' and threw scenes to a low budget Indian effects house that still renders things that look like early 2000s movies.
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 21:04 |
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Battle Angel had the best vfx
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 23:32 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Honestly, I think part of the problem is that people expect niche films to win out in a democratic vote of thousands of people. What the actual problem is becomes very clear when The Farewell and Little Women--loving Oscar rear end Oscar movies--are getting overlooked.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 01:19 |
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His argument doesn't account for films like The Farewell, Last Black Man, and Portrait of a Lady on Fire not at least being nommed in one category. This is absolutely retrenchment of the more conservative forces in the industry. This is how it all was during almost the entirety of the 90s.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 01:40 |
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Battle Angel had the best vfx I'm curious what 10 minutes they showed, since if they didn't show her Motorball tryout that is a goddamn crime
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 02:11 |
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:His argument doesn't account for films like The Farewell, Last Black Man, and Portrait of a Lady on Fire not at least being nommed in one category. Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Jan 17, 2020 |
# ? Jan 17, 2020 02:17 |
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Top five snubbed Oscar movies Dolemite Is My Name Midsommar Lighthouse Alita: Battle Angel Uncut Gems
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 02:31 |
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my top five snubbed oscar movies Uncut Gems Portrait of a Lady on Fire The Last Black Man in San Francisco Alita: Battle Angel Long Day's Journey Into Night
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 03:45 |
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ruddiger posted:Eddie Murphy getting snubbed for Dolemite is some loving bullshit. Did it play in theaters?
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 04:24 |
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I believe Portrait was not nominated for Foreign Film because France chose Les Miserables instead. Although it could have easily been nominated in many other categories.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 04:26 |
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got any sevens posted:Did it play in theaters? I saw it playing in a few theaters in LA, they did a whole special engagement at the New Beverly Cinema.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 04:29 |
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Battle Angel would’ve been my pick from that shortlist. I was very pleasantly surprised by a film I thought was gonna be pretty crap. Good design and quality. Film I knew wouldn’t be nominated but would’ve been nice if it somehow got something, like a best supporting or screenplay nod: Booksmart. Lovely film.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 04:41 |
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Am I alone in never hearing of Marriage Story until it got nominated for an Oscar?
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 05:04 |
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Roth posted:Am I alone in never hearing of Marriage Story until it got nominated for an Oscar?
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 05:21 |
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Was Dragged Across Concrete any good? I heard a lot of chatter when it came out to the effect that "it's deeply problematic but undeniably well made" and the director is maybe secret alt-right or something.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 18:58 |
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Euphoriaphone posted:Am I the only one shocked at all the praise 1917 is getting? It just seems like a knockoff version of Dunkirk. Hollywood has a hard-on for movies that look like it's shot in one scene. Like Birdman for example.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 21:07 |
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Euphoriaphone posted:Am I the only one shocked at all the praise 1917 is getting? It just seems like a knockoff version of Dunkirk. It's okay. It's not as good as Dunkirk, which itself is a movie that I find impressive without really loving it.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 21:11 |
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General Dog posted:Was Dragged Across Concrete any good? I heard a lot of chatter when it came out to the effect that "it's deeply problematic but undeniably well made" and the director is maybe secret alt-right or something. It is deeply problematic and I don't think it's very well made. I mean, the director is a pro so it's not like it's DTV level but I don't remember the technical aspects of it standing out very much to me. And yes, the director signed with a production company that has openly said it's mission statement is to make movies that "conservatives" can enjoy. And the first collaboration is Dragged Across Concrete, a movie starring Mel Gibson about cops who are maybe a little overzealous but hey they get the job done and it's not fair that our PC culture is making them obsolete.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 21:12 |
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Basebf555 posted:It is deeply problematic and I don't think it's very well made. I mean, the director is a pro so it's not like it's DTV level but I don't remember the technical aspects of it standing out very much to me. Isn't it the same guy who made Bone Tomahawk? That movie was great.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 21:17 |