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Gazpacho posted:remind me what firefox's unique end-user value proposition was at any point in the past? web "developers" wanted to gently caress up the web and Microsoft wouldn't let them so they built mozilla.
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Gazpacho posted:remind me what firefox's unique end-user value proposition was at any point in the past? the alternative was ie6, which was an unbelievable pile of poo poo garbage
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Shaggar posted:web "developers" wanted to gently caress up the web and Microsoft wouldn't let them so they built mozilla. uh huh....
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Jan 20, 2020 00:34
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The_Franz posted:the alternative was ie6, which was an unbelievable pile of poo poo garbage
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Gazpacho posted:remind me what firefox's unique end-user value proposition was at any point in the past? siphons hundreds of millions of dollars annually that google would otherwise put into data thievery
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Jan 20, 2020 03:48
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fired fox
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Jan 20, 2020 05:50
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Firefox saved the world from MSIE garbage monopoly. but then it lost to the chrome monopoly. rip
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Jan 20, 2020 06:39
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i thought firefox's original value proposition, as phoenix, was that it was significantly lighter-weight than mozilla still scarred by trying to build it against xft so i could get pretty antialiased fonts on lunix
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Gazpacho posted:Almost as if sitting for depositions and watching their backs for the latest “bundling” whinge took a toll on the dev effort holy poo poo this spin 
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Jan 20, 2020 07:30
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IE6 was still better than late stage netscape
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damned by faint praise
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Jan 20, 2020 08:40
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ie6 didnt even support transparent pngs. gently caress it to hell
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Gazpacho posted:Almost as if sitting for depositions and watching their backs for the latest “bundling” whinge took a toll on the dev effort hey shaggar, you're logged into the wrong account
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pram posted:ie6 didnt even support transparent pngs. gently caress it to hell it supported one bit transparency which made it exactly as useful as a gif scratch that, you can animate gifs
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Jan 20, 2020 18:01
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but seriously i worked pretty closely with a bunch of moz folks for hangouts integration and this kinda sucks
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Jan 20, 2020 18:57
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wangouts
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:but seriously i worked pretty closely with a bunch of moz folks for hangouts integration and this kinda sucks 
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Shaggar posted:web "developers" wanted to gently caress up the web and Microsoft wouldn't let them hmm... 
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Jan 20, 2020 19:35
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cute trick they pulled back in the day declaring that the browser with 90% market share didn't comply with "industry standards"
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Fiedler posted:cute trick they pulled back in the day declaring that the browser with 90% market share didn't comply with "industry standards" there were specifications to adhere to rip xhtml https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3236
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should’ve just stuffed the w3c board, as is done today
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allowing malformed html to render was the biggest mistake.
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Jan 20, 2020 20:14
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ie was trash rip in garbage and piss and poo poo etc
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loving MIKKKRO$HAFT
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well I’m still not going to use the browser made by the surveillance company, the browser that doesn’t run on most of my computers, or the browser made by the attention marble company, so I guess I’ll stick with the dying ’fox to the end
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lol now i’m remembering how firefox was once the only browser which could play gifs at a reasonable speed which had the effect of a bunch playing at hyper speed because the op made them for ie
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Soricidus posted:the browser made by the attention marble company when you compare him to other techbro ceos, at least the bitcoin browser guy is honest about being a fascist e: ^^^ i don't remember which browsers did it this way but i have fond memories of loading up gif threads on message boards and hearing the delightful whine of my computer fans spooling up Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Lutha Mahtin posted:when you compare him to other techbro ceos, at least the bitcoin browser guy is honest about being a fascist wait is that why they’re all assessed with that drat browser? i thought it was just a fad that caught on with that group plus the lion logo
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PIZZA.BAT posted:lol now i’m remembering how firefox was once the only browser which could play gifs at a reasonable speed which had the effect of a bunch playing at hyper speed because the op made them for ie hm yeah I recall making some starcraft portrait gifs and was confused when they ran too fast in phoenix
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Gazpacho posted:remind me what firefox's unique end-user value proposition was at any point in the past? I think it's always been "this version of Firefox is less buggy than the previous one". Nothing really ever got better, just less lovely. It's so sad that it took Google Chrome to implement crash recovery and a less intrusive update mechanism, it still doesn't feel like Mozilla has hit that second point.
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Jan 20, 2020 21:43
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man what is going on in this thread. i thought fishmech got banned???
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fishmech lives on in all our hearts
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not mine 
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:allowing malformed html to render was the biggest mistake. worse is better and the entire web stack is so very much worse
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The_Franz posted:hmm... oh no the bad web "standards" don't work. how horrible.
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Shaggar posted:oh no the bad web "standards" don't work. how horrible. do you work? and if so how are you employed? lol
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Gazpacho posted:remind me what firefox's unique end-user value proposition was at any point in the past? It was called Pheonix, and when it came out it was lightyears faster than IE was at the time. Then the people who made BIOS chips got all pissy and they changed their name to Firebird. Then Pontiac got all pissy and they changed their name to Firefox and made a logo of a fox yiffing the Earth. They've been an organization of furries from that point on.
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akadajet posted:It was called Pheonix, and when it came out it was lightyears faster than IE was at the time. Then the people who made BIOS chips got all pissy and they changed their name to Firebird. Then Pontiac got all pissy and they changed their name to Firefox and made a logo of a fox yiffing the Earth. They've been an organization of furries from that point on. firebird was some kind of database nobody heard of before or since, not the Pontiac.
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