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HD DAD posted:I’ve said it before, but Disco excels when it’s just being Weird As Hell™, as opposed to attempting some kind of epic, melodramatic tale. Discovery S2 had some half-baked scripts, but they were aiming high and usually still landed on "entertaining". Like the mushroom space episode. Cool premise and visuals, but they stopped to have a conversation about three times while they were under a 5 minute deadline on the ship being torn apart. They were good conversations, but for the love of god, save the ethical debates for after you get the ship out of danger.
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Powered Descent posted:I know what you mean, but this made me think of Michelle Yeoh in a cowboy hat Now I'm okay with Discovery doing a holodeck episode.
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Jan 22, 2020 17:40
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zoux posted:Bruce Maddox everyone Also as prep, watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRWq31STK-0 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRc8EyPoxOU
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Jan 24, 2020 06:26
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Carbon dioxide posted:The hologram index lady said this painting was one of two instances, the other being in Picard's house. Data did two paintings. Picard has the original of one, that doesn't show the face in his study. The archive has the original of the other, with the face. Picard has seen it before, decades ago, so he goes to look at it to refresh his memory. And she looks a LOT like Lal, which is a really nice touch. twistedmentat posted:Also HOLY poo poo CLASSIC ROMULAN SHIP IN THE SEASON TRAILER???? I'm giving the series a pass just for that.
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Jan 24, 2020 09:12
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:First episode of Picard was pretty neat. I think Maddox was bullshitting. Sure, consciousness could have a fractal aspect, but a whole mind with memories encoded in one neuron ? it's either technobabble we're thinking about harder than the writers 9as usual), or Maddox loaded Dahj with the fragmentary memories recovered from B4. That's my theory, that and he used Lore as the basis for the synths that went rogue.
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Jan 24, 2020 22:23
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Grand Fromage posted:Her mom is some sort of AI. It glitched out in the middle of the conversation and changed tactics. She was talking to an AI in that scene, it doesn't mean she didn't have a childhood with parents. She would apparently pass a medical scan - she fooled a tricorder at Chateau Picard - so there's no reason to think she didn't grow up like an actual human. She also passed the Daystrom Institute's background check, and had the academic qualifications (publications and references) to be offered a fellowship. Very hard to fake. Speculation is probably moot since that twin got exploded.
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Jan 25, 2020 23:57
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AntherUslessPoster posted:I saw Casino Royale (tng 2x12) back in 1993-ish when I was a kid, but rediscovered and devoured multiple times all of trek except for TAS and TOS in 2013. Saw all the movies multiple times(even TMP till Undiscovered Country), but was always cautious when it comes to TOS/TAS. On that basis, start with Spectre of the Gun S03E06. It's not the best episode in the series (it IS one of the better S3 epsiodes), but it may be the most stylistically TOS epsiode. The minimalist sets are decorated so strikingly you'll think all the rest of the episodes look "normal". Then watch everything else in order.
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Jan 26, 2020 22:19
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Brawnfire posted:Wasn't there another sorta-Federation in Starfleet Battles? They should bring that back in. Two seemingly equal and benevolent allied powers bumping up against each other and vying for member worlds could be interesting. That was the Interstellar Concordium (ISC for short). They were on the far side of the Gorns and Romulans from the Federation, and had a unique (and very cleverly designed) weapon. They were interstellar pacifists, or at least were willing to conquer all the empires that had just had a long and massively destructive war in order to bring peace to the galaxy.Like the Federation they were multicultural idealists, just with very different ideals. I liked episode 2, but it was very obviously the middle part of 3. I expect the pacing to sort itself out starting with episode 4. The commodore (which is a rank between captain and admiral) and the lieutenant were obviously Romulan infiltrators, anyone who missed that needs to put their phone down while they're watching. My theory that Dahj might have actually grown up like a normal person got shot to hell. I still think that faking a background that gets you a research fellowship at the Daystrom Institute is a tall order, but ok, it happened. I would have liked to see a Section 31 show where it's 31 versus Tal'Shiar on both sides of the Neutral Zone. The big reveal at the end of Season 2 could have been the main characters discovering that Romulans are a Vulcan offshoot. That's exactly the sort of really heavy and consequential secret you would keep so restricted that not even a starship captain on assignment to the Neutral Zone has need to know. edit. A buddy just linked me an Easter Eggs video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7h6KNVQTZQ) that caught that there was an Ensign Clancy on TNG who looks a lot like Admiral Clancy. Enough alike that the vlogger assumed they were the same actress instead of just (possibly) the same character. But if she had served under Picard, that adds some spin to that scene. mllaneza fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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AntherUslessPoster posted:I mean, she hacked starfleet-restricted FedNet and found Picard in like 20 seconds, wouldn't be hard to create all the relevant info and cross-checks with 100% accuracy. Generally yes. I suppose I'll just have to be impressed that they also faked a publication history (Dr. Maddox could just use some of his unpublished work) and references (letters from prominent but reclusive academics maybe).
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Feb 1, 2020 22:17
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Arglebargle III posted:
I've only seen the first season, but it was very good and ended in the most perfect place possible for Frank.
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Feb 2, 2020 03:30
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The close-up look of the Mars facilities does seem to make sense with what we heard about the disaster- a relatively low body count for a planet-wide one since the facilities seemed to be heavily automated and Mars itself isn't heavily inhabited, but used basically as a big manufacturing zone. Since nobody in the Federation has to work, the shipyards would have been set up like any other Federation habitat. Good replicators, comfortable, spacious quarters, standard Fed civil design aesthetics everywhere. Children of Mars shows this design style off nicely. How beautiful was that school ? The problem comes in when you consider that that sort of environment is not conducive to the state of mind needed to work hard shifts in a dangerous industrial environment. You can't bust your rear end all day in paradise, humans just aren't wired like that. Accident rates were probably higher than expected, and productivity lower. So over time they changed over to what we saw on screen: something more like what you'd find on an oil rig or other isolated industrial facility. That would also explain why they can't spend their weekends back on Earth - working at the shipyards is a commitment, it's going to be tough and take tough people to get the very important work done. Working as a team under adverse conditions builds camaraderie and promotes a culture of safety and productivity. You bust rear end for a year, eating food from food printers, not replicated 3-star meals. You'll wear hard hats and other safety gear, you'll live - and think - in an industrial mode. When returning workers give recruitment speeches they can talk about how the crew bonds last a lifetime, and about the sense of pride when a ship you built lifts off for the first time. There's probably a waiting list of people who want to do it just for the character building opportunity and the bragging rights; "Oh the USS Andoria pulled a crippled cruise liner away from a black hole ? Let me tell you how many times we had to re-align her structural integrity fields so she could pull that off..."
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EvilTaytoMan posted:I just assumed it was a Vulcan Science Academy ship and that they probably have certain generic parts that go into both Starfleet ships and VSA ships. Yeah, the influence goes the other way. Federation computers sound like Vulcan computers for the very good reasons that Vulcans wrote most of the code. It's still a Unix variant of some sort 
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Feb 3, 2020 17:34
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A2 Starfleet Academy series has been pitched several times since TMP hit theaters. Maybe it'll actually happen this time, maybe it won't. If it happens instead of Pike's Enterprise then i'm gonna be upset.
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Feb 5, 2020 09:33
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Seemlar posted:(not including Georgiou) Are you counting her as a captain or an empress ?
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Feb 6, 2020 04:02
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evilmiera posted:So, Picard saw that Romulan spit that acid in the first episode, right? Immediately before suffering a concussion. That the two Tal Shiar agents didn't catch it is suggestive that it's either a new technique or a Vash Tahj thing.
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Feb 8, 2020 06:05
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Lizard Combatant posted:Oh I've got no problem with hard choice test scenarios. Troi getting her command rank was a pretty neat episode, she didn't need to think she'd actually killed Geordie for the weight of the responsibly she's accepting to sink in. Holo-LaVarr Burton plays that scene beautifully. The way he looks back at her as he walks off to save the ship knowing he isn't coming back out of that Jeffries Tube is perfect Terrible quality, but here's the scene. It's one of my favorite moments of the show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K7QGia1aCc
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Feb 15, 2020 16:11
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galenanorth posted:counting the number of sci-fi casino episodes I can remember Original BSG: The very first regular broadcast episode - after fleeing mass robotic genocide - featured a casino planet.
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Feb 16, 2020 17:16
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thrawn527 posted:Can't the same be said about Jeri Ryan? Or was there a practical reason for that ridiculous skin tight cat suit they put her in? Yup. She looked fine in the 5 seconds we've had of her on The JL Show so far.
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Feb 17, 2020 19:55
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Noise Complaint posted:It's so within character for Seven to go completely off the loving reservation for something emotional. I think she's just picked up some affectations, but she is still herself. I was kind of expecting the Borg implants to sprout out again and have her adapt like she did several times in VOY. She was always someone just as terrifying as Data w/r/t going absolutely insane. Well, Seven did have the eyebrow thing going on with the implant. And she always did come across as potentially extremely dangerous. I liked it. There were lots of good character moments, It was kind of tonally all over the place, but it worked. Two-Take Frakes did a great job directing. Taking an episode off from bullshit on the Artifact helped, but it looks like next week we might get some of the good stuff there.
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Lizard Combatant posted:Trick the kid with a false plan so he's running interference on the Reptiloid (???) as he radiates pure wholesome candour. While the real plan is happening under the surface. Classic heist bullshit. I still like the "let's give the front man drugs" plan. Raffi probably just ordered a #2 drug cocktail, adjusted to the captain's mass. My big question is, why are random mooks transporting to safety when Seven comes back, but the boss is stuck with a well-armed angry woman with a grudge. It looked to me like Seven set up her own transport, ostensibly to the Ranger ship that was arriving "any minute now". Picard will be very disappointed.
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Feb 21, 2020 17:42
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Lizard Combatant posted:So what has Picard "not giving up" got to do with anything? He hasn't? He did. The admiralty called his bluff, he resigned and went home and stayed there. Alchenar posted:It's also important that Seven calls Picard out for deciding to step back and retire the moment he didn't have the option of massive institutional weight behind his justice. And that's probably why. He's Jean-Luc Picard for heaven's sake ! He could talk to reporters to spread his message, start bugging Federation councilors to overrule Starfleet, start calling in favors, all sort of things to try and save the rescue effort. He could even go back as a private citizen and help the space nuns and the boy who obviously idolizes him. He could at least keep in touch with his adjutant who got cashiered because she worked for him. He went home and sat in his study for 15 years. Seven put her rear end on the line to try and keep order in lawless space. Seven can judge him. The Romulans he abandoned can judge him. Raffi can judge him.
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Feb 22, 2020 03:06
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Lizard Combatant posted:I agree that the point of Picard the series is to comment on present day isolationism through the analogy of the Federation, but I'm saying that it's doing a poor job of actually exploring this. I think you're overlooking just how bad the Dominion War was, and how close to falling to fascism the Federation was. If Sisko and company fail on their mission to Earth, then Starfleet takes over the Federation as a military dictatorship. I'll agree that it could be developed more, but we have events shown on screen to draw a line between. From the Starfleet Plot in DS9 to a full isolationist turn after Mars 9/11 isn't as much of a leap in my view as it is in yours and you don't need much exposition when the historical parallels are so clear. There's a great deal in common between the last twenty years of Federation politics following that line and all the poo poo that went down in the twenty years between WW1 and WW2. WW1 for America and the Dominion War for the Federation both involved entanglement in foreign affairs, shocking military casualties, and a need to prop up former allies. In twenty years Japan went from an ally against Germany to the next enemy of America. In twenty years two whole countries did fall to fascism, and there was a strong pro-Fascist movement in America. We don't have to see the equivalent of the American Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden for something like it to have plausibly happened. We really don't have anything to "get out of"
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I mean that's fair criticism. I haven't seen Battlestar or B5, and while I agree that the Expanse has phenomenal space travel/battle stuff, it's an entirely different beast from Trek-type space battles. I liked it, but I don't think any of your complaints are invalid, and I admittedly have low standards for that sort of thing. There's a major spoiler in the title of the video, but gently caress it, the show is decades old. Here's what B5 could do when it set out to show a whole battle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWl1ZteUS8U
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Ok, that was really solid. I'll agree that it was a bit rushed at the end. On the whole, we just paid off a lot of the slow development in one episode.
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Mokinokaro posted:Yeah, the interior kinda works since it looks like most of the functional parts of the ship are that one big hallway with the warp core at one end and the cockpit at the other. This past episode really helped sell me on that layout. We had the lounge area at the bottom of the stairs behind the bridge, and Rios doing soccer stuff at the aft end. That makes the whole space seem lived-in. It also adds a sense of openness that helps stave off the natural reactions to being in enclosed spaces. I spend most of my day indoors and looking at things that are within arm's reach. Going outside for a smoke gives me the chance to be in an unconfined space where I can focus on things far away. It's good for my eyes and good for my head. Never mind the tobacco use. On none of the ships we've ever seen on the various shows are you ever going to have more than a 30 or 40 foot distance from the farthest thing you can see; outside of the holodeck or maybe a few sections of corridors. One job I had, the main seating area was 80 feet by 40 with windows at the back and high ceilings. We had two columns of desks down the middle with a few pillars being the only break in the space at all. That was a lot nicer than the cramped, enclosed spaces, with twisty corridors I work in now. On reflection, I can very much vouch for the layout on the La Sirena as being a good one for a starship.
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Speaking of Capaldi, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQTlT8-qYUk
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Production posted:* the proto-Romulans/Vulcans created AI, the AI took over and tried to optimize their society, to the point of genetically engineering their own creators’ species into having super strength, logically-ordered brains and a psychic interface with both machines and living creatures. The AI was defeated but the unmodified Romulans were driven off the planet by the now uncontrolled, dangerously violent AI-designed augments. Hundreds of years of war later, the Vulcans mastered their logical nature and became a functioning civilization again. I like that, it makes more sense than we're likely to get, but I like it. Pastamania posted:I'd be amazed if we don't now get a 'It's the Titan !' moment in the final battle that is blatantly obviously coming.
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Mar 7, 2020 04:06
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Carbon dioxide posted:It isn't here. Does Prime have different content per country or something? Yes it does. On the bright side, maybe you still have Babylon 5 !
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Astroman posted:Pure Planet/Monster Of The Week. Explore strange new worlds and get back to the SPACE IS loving WEIRD poo poo of TOS/TAS with green giant hands, 10 story tall clones, ancient gods, gangster planets, and space amoebas. It's period appropriate for the era of just before TOS, and would be a great counterpart to the postapoc ACTION SPACE BATTLES of Disco and the more contemplative Picard. And the presumably zany Lower Decks show. Oh god yes. Although the variant where they're in a particular region of space for half a season and deal with its plot(s), then go somewhere else for a big finale, has a lot of appeal. I've grown to like plot and character development, some continuity, and maybe sense of place in my shows. But by drat we met Apollo himself on TOS, I'll settle for nothing less than another giant hand shaking the Enterprise like a toy. The Bloop posted:Mother fucker Goddammit, it got dusty in here again.
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Mortanis posted:I feel like I might have missed something, but that means everything with the Borg and Romulans is a red herring, right? That one Romulan ship was the only one to be assimilated, and while at first it looked like there was some sort of biological trigger messing up assimilated Romulans, now it looks like they just got whammied by the fact that they assimilated someone that had been subjected to the psychic plot exposition device and it donked up the whole cube. Maybe they'll come back to it but at this point, it feels like there's nothing special about the Romulan and Borg, right? It looked to me that the scene with Aunty and And yes, Narissa beamed out at the last second. The transport effect was pretty obvious.
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Mar 13, 2020 05:58
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FlamingLiberal posted:I thought Narissa said that ‘the Borg assimilated the wrong ship’ and it implied that it was not intentional on the part of the Zhat Vash. 'The wrong ship' is the one that was carrying the person who would shut the cube down if she was assimilated.
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Senor Tron posted:Quantum Leap is one of the only examples I can think of. Babylon 5 was structured around one season per in-show year. New Year's Day usually happens in the finale or premiere. Mid-season, they'd frequently refer to something happening in a week or so as an obvious code for "next episode". With 22 episodes per season, they could manage that very well just by having half the episodes be vague about duration or how closely they followed the previous episode. The temporal structure is one of the little details that makes the show seem more real.
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Vehementi posted:Michelle Yeoh just ambushed the bad guy who was standing at a computer, taking him completely by surprised and just... missed I swear they were shooting first drafts of scripts. There are so many spots in S2 where they obviously never thought twice about what was happening.
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FlamingLiberal posted:If those somehow weren't first drafts, then those are some bad producers If they were first drafts then that' still ultimately on the producers. Fornax Disaster posted:I liked these starfleet tugboats. There is a clear family resemblance to the Enterprise E in the Warp and impulse engines. They look like a typical starfleet design that has had the most of the saucer deleted, pared down to eliminate everything not required for towing cargo to make it faster to build. I like that, it's a good take on the tug class from the old Franz Joseph tech manual. The Star Fleet Battles people have their license through Franz Joseph Designs, so they got to use the tug. Naturally they came up with a "battle pod" for it, in case you needed something with most of the firepower of a dreadnought on short notice.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:I'm going to give it a good rating based on the next season, which I have no idea what it even is but I'm sure it will be good. Based on the ensemble shot we got at the very end, next season is starting off with excellent promise. Allison Pill is a loving treasure. Warn the lighting crew if she's about to be delighted by something, the woman positively glows. I"m going 7.5 for the season as a whole after ep 10. it makes a lot of mistakes, but the highs are very high indeed. Narek agrees that the ubersynth story is an ancient myth. From before their ancestors arrived on Vulcan. Wait, what ? [the bonfire scene, about 16:05] The main character's plan to derail the Big Threat goes easily awry in what must by now be considered a cliched manner. Incest Sister definitely confirmed to have no agency or importance of her own. I like that she got a major villain's demise. And that Seven called back to killing her. It's a pity that she'd also killed the evil gangster who harvested Icheb like, this week, it undercuts what could have been a significant character moment. No Emergency Anything Holograms, -1/10. The Data/Picard conversation was perfect. "A butterfly that lives forever, is really not a butterfly at all." The last piece of what Data had always wanted above all things, to join the Human family; mortality. This show got some things just plain wrong, and failed to live up to its goals in many others, but it got the one thing it absolutely had to get right, absolutely, unimpeachably, perfect. I'm goigng to stop there for now, it's getting dusty in here.
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Mulva posted:After making GBS threads on the overall arc of the season that reminds me that I actually like most of the actors, and many of their characters in general. I think there's the potential for them to do a good story with them, and am vaguely looking forward to a second season. There's a lot of potential for S2, 
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Lizard Combatant posted:
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Voyager is nothing but beige carpets, beige writing, and Janeway making Jurati look like an emotionally stable moral paragon. Voyager definitely never hit as high as Picard's last conversation with Data.
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thrawn527 posted:Also, this. God drat, this justified the bad parts of the season. Of which there were quite a few. I suspect that the whole show was built around getting to that scene. But the outline was put together by hacks, so we ended up with poorly-paced filler and characters doing questionable things to advance the plot in the right direction.
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Brawnfire posted:The game I will always want is Freelancer skinned up as Babylon 5. Then comrade do I have good news for you ! http://babylon.hard-light.net/official_downloads.php
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