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Star Trek’s been around for 54 years now and we’re entering a level of production for the franchise not seen since its mid-90’s heyday. New shows are now distributed by CBS and streaming on CBS All Access (US), Amazon (UK), Netflix (UK), and others (you international folks will have to help me out here). Naturally, new shows mean new viewers, so this thread has been made with those newbies in mind. Let’s see what’s out there.  Star Trek: Picard – Season 1 Airing: January 23rd 2020 – March 26th 2020 (10 episodes, weekly) Streaming on CBS All Access (US), Amazon Prime Video (UK) Starring: Patrick Stewart, Alison Pill, Michelle Hurd, Evan Evagora, Brent Spiner, Jeri Ryan, Jonathan del Arco Premise: For nearly two decades, Jean-Luc Picard was Captain of two ships to bear the name Enterprise. When Star Trek: Picard begins, we find that Jean-Luc has retired from life in Starfleet and now tends the fields of his family’s vineyard in La Barre, France. Eighteen years ago his friend and comrade, the android Data, was killed during a mission to the planet Romulus. That same planet was destroyed several years later when a nearby star went supernova, and the ensuing refugee crisis remains an issue for Starfleet and the rest of the galaxy today. We don’t know much about the show’s plot yet, but we do know the Borg (a race of hive-minded cyborgs collected from trillions of different abducted individuals) will factor in somehow, as will the Romulans (a race of militaristic and paranoid spymasters related to the Vulcans), and several other members of both the Next Generation and Voyager crews. The show will tell a single serialized story in its first season, and has already been renewed for a second. Never seen TNG or haven’t seen it in quite a while and want the bare essentials just to catch up in time? Just follow this list: quote:“The Measure of a Man” – TNG Season 2, Episode 9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGVwjpguRqc  Star Trek: Discovery – Season 3 Airing: TBD 2020, likely Summer/early Fall (13 episodes, weekly) Streaming on CBS All Access (US), Netflix (UK) Starring: Sonequa Martin-Green, Doug Jones, Michelle Yeoh, Anthony Rapp, Mary Wiseman, Wilson Cruz, David Ajala Premise: The titular vessel of Star Trek: Discovery is a largely experimental science ship, propelled not only by the usual warp drive but also by a unique “Spore Drive” that allows the ship to jump greater distances through the use of literal mushroom spores. Yeah, this show gets weird as hell. Lead character Michael Burnham (Martin-Green) is a human raised by Vulcans and adopted sister of Spock. At the end of the second season, she had been separated from the Discovery, but still thrown into the same future as the rest of the crew. First Officer Saru (Jones) is a Kelpian, a race with a built-in Spidey Sense, giving them a heads-up on potential danger. Phillipa Georgiou (Yeoh) is the former Empress of the Mirror Universe’s Terran Empire and now a member of Section 31, a secretive branch of Starfleet created to protect Federation interests with grey morality and slick leather uniforms. Lt. Cmdr Stamets (Rapp) is a mycologist in charge of Discovery’s Spore Drive and its de facto Chief Engineer. He was left comatose at the end of Season 2. His partner, Dr. Culber (Cruz) died and was resurrected thanks to space mushroom science, and I can assure you the full explanation for that is far more complicated but no less nonsensical. Finally, Sylvia Tilly is Discovery’s eager and energetic former Cadet, now Ensign, and close friend of Burnham’s. The first two seasons saw the crew deal with a Klingon war, a trip to the Mirror Universe, and a conflict with Section 31 that saw Spock and the crew of the USS Enterprise helping out Discovery. The ship has had a rotating roster of captains but season 2’s finale saw Saru assume the role, at least for now. The end of Season 2 also saw the crew of Discovery’s titular ship jumping forward in time nearly 1,000 years, from 23rd century to the 32nd. In this era, the Federation and Starfleet have become isolationist and membership has shrunk to a handful of planets. Again, the larger plot is mostly unknown, but we do know it will involve the 32nd century’s Federation president seeking Discovery’s help to restore the Federation to its former glory and bring hope to a troubled galaxy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ec8WnBHes  Star Trek: Short Treks Airing: Now, sporadically Streaming on CBS All Access (US), Netflix (UK (You have to look under the Extras tab)) Starring: Various Premise: Short Treks is pretty much what it sounds like; short-form stories set in the world of Star Trek, usually 15-20 minutes in length. The bulk of the episodes released thus far have either featured the Discovery crew or been set during the same time period, though newer ones have taken place during Star Trek: Picard’s time. Presumably the “show” will continue to function this way, with new episodes taking place all over the timeline. There’s no real continuity between episodes, with each one more or less a one-shot, although producers have said that future shows or episodes may occasionally follow up on Short Trek subjects (this happened with a character in Disco season 2 actually). These don’t appear to be essential viewing just yet, but you might as well watch them if you’ve seen everything else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7J0XR8Xbl4  Star Trek: Lower Decks Airing: TBD 2020 (10 episodes, weekly) Streaming on CBS All Access (US) Starring: Eugene Cordero, Tawny Newsome, Jerry O’Connell, Dawnn Lewis, Jack Quaid Premise: Lower Decks, like the TNG episode it’s named after, will focus on the lowest-ranking staff of one of Starfleet’s least important ships in the year 2380 (just after Star Trek: Nemesis). The show will be the franchise’s second foray into animation, the first since The Animated Series in the 70’s. It’s the brainchild of Mike McMahan, the man behind the TNG Season 8 twitter account. A second season has already been ordered for the show, with the first set to air sometime this year.  Future Shows and Projects Section 31 Not much is known beyond Michelle Yeoh’s involvement, but a Section 31 show is coming at some point and parts of Discovery season 2 essentially functioned as a backdoor pilot for the show. The only ETA we’ve been given is “sometime after Discovery season 3 shoots”. Since Disco S3 airs this year, expect ugly leather uniforms and pointy knife spaceships to hit All Access sometime in 2021 or 2022. Untitled Nickelodeon Show Another “announced but not yet in production” show is an animated series for Nickelodeon aimed at a younger audience. The show will focus on a group of kids salvaging an old Starfleet ship and going on adventures. Young Khan Series/Miniseries Back before Discovery aired, one of the projects in development was a limited series focusing on Khan during the time before Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, when the despot and his augment army were stranded on the hellworld Ceti Alpha V. After Nick Meyer parted ways with CBS, we stopped hearing any solid info on the project and it was presumed dead. Recent rumors have suggested it’s still coming, but who knows at this point. Other Two additional series have been mentioned as “in development”, but no concrete info has been given and I wouldn’t expect to hear anything until Comic Con this year. I’ve tried to include region-free trailers where possible, but let me know if someone has better links. Big Mean Jerk fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jan 21, 2020 |
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Rhyno posted:Yeah, there's plenty of bad TNG. But the highs are so loving high that we tend to forget about them. Blessed is the man who can just forget “Code of Honor” and ”The Loss”.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:34
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HD DAD posted:TNG season 7 is basically Voyager season 0. I love Masks because it has that same sort of intensely weird “TOS Season 4” vibe as the first couple seasons. Give me weird poo poo that misses the mark over boring crap like The Masterpiece Society any day.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:14
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Discovery is fine if you don’t go in determined to hate it, hth. These threads routinely recognize that the first ~30-40 episodes of almost every Star Trek series are the weakest. Discovery has only done 29 episodes thus far and has had to deal with a revolving door of creatives and showrunners, including a creator that delayed the series by an entire year over stupid loving costuming choices before being unceremoniously fired. Discovery will be fine once it has a stable creative team behind it for an entire season.
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Jan 21, 2020 21:43
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FlamingLiberal posted:Michelle Yeoh's character is going to have to find a way to get back somehow, unless the S31 show takes place during that short period between the end of S1 of Disco and S2 Aren’t the Temporal Agent dudes from Voyager already around by the time S3 is set? I assume she’ll be going back at some point to rebuild Section 31 in secret and Disco will stay in the future.
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Jan 22, 2020 02:57
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My biggest problem with Disco’s music is that the only time it’s ever memorable is when it tries to ape the Giacchino themes.
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Jan 22, 2020 18:16
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Toshiro Mifune really should have been in so many 70s sci-fi movies. I love Alec Guinness as Obi-Wan but I would kill to see what Mifune would have been like.
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Jan 22, 2020 19:37
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I think he's on record as saying he intended it for to look explicitly like "The Cage," with the muted-color turtleneck uniforms and such, and ship design elements based on TOS.  And yet he still decided to make the current uniforms from an absurdly expensive specialty fabric only available from one vendor in Switzerland or something.
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Jan 23, 2020 01:10
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Discovery episodes usually drop around 7 or 8 CST, my guess is Picard will be similar. No midnight releases for some reason, gotta pretend this is still broadcast TV.
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Jan 23, 2020 01:34
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angerbeet posted:Nerdist says it's going to be midnight (PST That’s surprising but kinda welcome. Wonder if All Access’s servers will handle the new traffic or hiccup like Disney +’s when The Mandalorian dropped?
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Jan 23, 2020 01:40
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Some iffy plot stuff, but man it’s refreshing to have a modern Trek show that actually takes its time to breathe and let characters have nice little moments instead of rushing from action scene to action scene. The show is also way more cinematic than I expected.
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Jan 23, 2020 09:18
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Just spitballing here: So I’m gonna guess Maddox is working for what’s left of the Tal Shiar/Romulan Government either willingly or under duress. The Romulans must have recovered some bits of Data and know they can use the method Alison Pill described to make an army of Dahj android soldiers. I’ll also guess based on the Cube reveal and what we’ve seen in trailers that they’re also tinkering with Borg tech, possibly including Hugh’s group of freed drones.
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Jan 23, 2020 09:44
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T.C. posted:For a minute the Data positronic brain recovery thing made me think that Star Trek may have finally moved on from copying The Wrath of Khan and now it's time for The Search for Spock. Given how they made a point to say Data may live on in some form and how easy it would be to create a new flesh and blood body, I’d say there’s a 90% chance Pinocchio finally becomes a real boy by the end of the season.
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Jan 23, 2020 11:53
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pyrotek posted:I also thought that Picard getting blown backwards in San Francisco and waking up being tended to at La Barre, France by his Romulan friends instead of medical professionals was weird. That whole sequence really seemed like someone went “alright, enough character development, we need to get the plot moving here” because so much poo poo happens so quickly. I also wasn’t expecting her to die at first, I thought the acid was just going to do some kind of Terminator thing and show mechanical components under her skin or something. It was also a little weird how little it immediately affected Picard. For all he knew, he just saw the only daughter of his dead closest friend melt and explode when he should have been protecting her. He gets upset but there’s no real grief and he’s just like “oh cool, thank god” when Alison Pill tells him there’s another Dahj out there somewhere. It’s one of the few hiccups in the episode, but it stood out.
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Jan 23, 2020 17:42
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Croatoan posted:I wonder how all the weird Maga chuds who claim that Star Trek discovery has too many social justice warriors and forced diversity and too much socialism (have they even seen a Star Trek before?) are going to say that Picard sucks because of the obvious allegory for the immigration issue. The show is awesome so far. I'm not really interested in going to reddit to find out though. They’ll praise it just for not being Discovery while completely pretending any allegorical elements don’t exist. Chuds have a unique ability to watch all media with willful ignorance and treat it all like mindless entertainment with no deeper meaning because recognizing that would challenge their worldview or give them a reason to dislike something they love. There’s a huge chunk of libertarian TNG fans out there, somehow.
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Jan 23, 2020 22:05
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HD DAD posted:Bets on Data being reconstituted as flesh and blood Brent Spiner by the end of the season? I’d say the probability is better than 60%. It’s kind of hokey, but I think I’d be okay with it as a sendoff to the character. It wouldn’t be the first time a TNG character had to be given a slightly better ending because their first death was such utter poo poo.
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Jan 23, 2020 23:11
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CarpenterWalrus posted:Full disclosure: I haven't seen Picard, yet, but why do we need to rebuild Data? Did we forget about B4 actually being Data? They tell us that Data’s memory transfer to B4 never worked and the data was lost. B4 is disassembled and sitting in a drawer now.
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Jan 23, 2020 23:14
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The way it listed the assortment of gasses on the little screen, I figured it was just some incredibly elaborate future science way of preserving artwork, similar to how the Mona Lisa has to be kept in a climate-controlled airtight case to keep from crumbling.
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Jan 23, 2020 23:25
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zoux posted:
Maybe Rom’s reforms worked and now it’s Hip To Be Ferengi
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Jan 23, 2020 23:35
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Arglebargle III posted:Welp, body count of four by the opening credits. New Trek... The character is 92. Stewart is 79.
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Jan 24, 2020 00:00
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Cojawfee posted:Was it a live interview? It could just have been reaired at night. It still hasn’t aired in Canada and parts of Europe yet. 48 hours for spoiler tags is pretty common in threads.
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Jan 24, 2020 02:42
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Cojawfee posted:In what threads? For all the shows I follow on SA, as soon as it airs somewhere, it's fair game. Is it really that big a deal to just extend the courtesy for people who can’t watch the show immediately? Two days isn’t that long.
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Jan 24, 2020 03:38
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Garrett Wang shows up as... Lieutenant Harry Kim. He’ll make Captain in just 60 more years!
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Jan 24, 2020 06:07
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I’d be down to see an E-refit of some kind captained by Geordi or someone really unexpected like Ezri. This would have been a nice opportunity for a Captain Nog cameo. 
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Jan 24, 2020 08:08
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zoux posted:Wait, aren't Romulus and Vulcan in the same star system? They're related right? The Romulans were exiled from Vulcan 2,000 years ago after their ancestors rejected Surak’s teachings and logic. They left the planet and settled on Romulus. I don’t think the two planets have ever been that close to each other though.
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Jan 24, 2020 17:56
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zoux posted:Malcolm McDowell blew up a whole sun when he coulda just spent the rest of his life in a holodeck Honestly probably safer to just destroy whole star systems than risk a lifetime of holograms becoming sentient.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:26
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TheCenturion posted:Sure, but evacuating one world with billions of beings on it is virtually impossible. Now you have a list of worlds, and a ticking countdown, and they bloody well know it. They're screaming for aid, there's riots in the streets, and meanwhile, at Starfleet, there's a boardroom full of admirals all looking at each other uneasily, nobody wanting to be the very first to say 'ya know, is this really such a bad thing?' You know someone in that room probably raised the point that the last time an enemy’s homeworld was threatened by calamity they ended up with 80 years of peace as a result.
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Jan 24, 2020 19:13
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Binary Badger posted:Space racism against folks with pointy ears? If some combination of Hugh’s independence and whatever Admiral Janeway did in Endgame had crippled the Borg, they could have been disorganized and disconnected when the Romulans found them. Easy pickings, especially when your back is against the wall after Hobus and you have nothing left to lose.
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Jan 24, 2020 19:32
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I thought we’d seen some level of terraforming on Mars before? I could have sworn Voyager or something showed people walking around on the surface with minimal equipment?
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Jan 24, 2020 21:15
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Lmao even the logo is transparently “this is really just SpaceCom with a new name to placate DiaperPrez”
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Jan 24, 2020 23:01
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Gaz-L posted:I do think we're getting Brent showing up in a non-dream capacity at some point. Lore would be a good bet, too, as they could have played off him being on set and in makeup as 'oh no, he's playing Data in a dream sequence'. Like they find Maddox and Picard sees a flash of yellow eyes and is all "Data?!?" and then Spiner does that smug tutting and "I'll give you one more guess, old man!" I’m pretty tired of Data, but I am down for more Lore after seeing how much fun Spiner was obviously having playing Arik Soong on Enterprise.
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Jan 25, 2020 01:01
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I really want to see a Ferengi and a Benzite with modern prosthetics.
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Jan 25, 2020 01:30
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Eh, I feel like the time to do a direct DS9 follow up has passed. Auberjonois and Eisenberg are dead, and Avery Brooks, Marc Alaimo, and Andrew Robinson are all basically retired from acting. Not having Sisko or Odo back, especially, really hurts the appeal of a revisit since those characters and their relationships were the heart of the show. You wouldn’t be able to do something like Picard, it would have to follow new characters exploring the political landscape left behind. Maybe some cameos or supporting roles from characters like Kira, Dax, and Bashir. It’s all moot though because, if we’re being brutally honest, Voyager is a much more likely candidate for a follow-up show just based on popularity among general audiences. It’s no surprise that Seven of Nine is showing up in Picard instead of, say, O’Brien or Kira or Dax.
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Jan 25, 2020 06:01
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adaz posted:
If we assume it’s a Tal Shiar ploy, and I think it is, then attacking the very heart of the Federation and crippling its most well-known production facility is a great idea if you want the Feds to pump the brakes a second and become more isolationist in response. With less Federation influence in the quadrant and a reduced focus on dealing with things outside Federation space, that gives the Romulan remnant some breathing room for largely unchecked expansion.
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Jan 25, 2020 07:31
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adaz posted:The only issue with that... poo poo you’re right, I forgot the attack was concurrent with the supernova. I suppose they could still be behind it though.
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Jan 25, 2020 08:10
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pyrotek posted:There is a subset that are pre-pissed off that the show will be supportive of "others": immigrants, gays, basically anybody not a cis white male. They don’t actually like the franchise, they’re just doing these dumb outrage videos for the clicks because that’s what YouTube has become.  See also: 90% of YouTube videos discussing [established genre franchise putting out new media]
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Jan 25, 2020 18:00
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Tighclops posted:I was talking about the show with my buddies at work and twice a random customer overheard us and came up to us asking if the show was good, people are hearing about Picard, there is buzz around the show that there simply wasn't for Discovery I mean it definitely helps that it’s starring an established character who’s been a household name for 30 years, but CBS has also been marketing the poo poo out of it in a way they never did with Discovery.
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Jan 25, 2020 18:10
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AntherUslessPoster posted:LMAO, already like those guys, will definitely watch later. Be warned though, the only poo poo of theirs worth watching is the stuff that highlights Mike and Rich. Jay is a whiny little poo poo who goes out of his way to poo poo all over anything that isn't a 70's giallo flick. Jay has also gotten increasingly misogynistic over the years. gently caress Jay. The Star Trek stuff should be fine though, it's almost always just Mike and Rich talking about it.
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Jan 25, 2020 18:56
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MichiganCubbie posted:Hmm, I never watched the Captain Marvel review, but that's sad. It came up again in their Dark Fate review and he went off on a tangent about the Ghostbusters reboot as well. Jay is like two years away from saying the quiet part out loud.
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Jan 25, 2020 19:50
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nine-gear crow posted:This is why I stick to Best of the Worst. Stuff like Rich Evans laughing at absurd poo poo/self-owning with his inept turns of phrases, and Mike laughing at old people and being genuinely righteously outraged at animal cruelty are all great.  They’re better as an ensemble anyway, plus you get the Canadians every now and then on BOTW.
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Jan 25, 2020 20:01
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