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Point: never, ever listen to Star Trek fans However, not listening is also what gave us JJTrek, so we’re damned either way.
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skasion posted:If STP turns out to suck it will mean an entire generation has been born, grown up and become able to legally drink since there has been an even halfway decent season of Star Trek on television Enterprise season 4 is only a sophomore in high school at this point.
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Jan 21, 2020 16:50
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TNG season 7 is basically Voyager season 0. Hotter take: Masks is TNG top 10 material.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:44
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I’ve said it before, but Disco excels when it’s just being Weird As Hell™, as opposed to attempting some kind of epic, melodramatic tale. Like, when the ship half-phased into mushroom space to revive a dead guy? Give me an IV of that poo poo straight into my veins.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:33
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Does SMG have some sort of clause in her contract that she must be the focus of all events happening around her?
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Jan 21, 2020 19:57
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Yeah I thought Chabon was leaving to run an adaptation of his Kavalier & Clay, which would make sense.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:19
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MichiganCubbie posted:I said last year that Discovery's first season was the best first season of Star Trek since TOS, but now I'd say the first two seasons of Discovery are the strongest two seasons of any Star Trek since TOS. I agree. Like, Disco’s writing can be absolutely eye-rolling. However, I’ll still take that over VOY and TNG’s first outings, which verge on “bad high school play” territory. Lizard Combatant posted:TNG only got better because viewers rightly criticised what sucked about it, hth. The same is happening to Disco. Season 2 was largely a reaction to season 1 criticism.
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Jan 21, 2020 22:26
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Disco is like the kid who’s under a fuckton of pressure to succeed, and burns itself out while trying to do 400 extracurriculars at once. The good news is those kids tend to become super chill and smoke a lot of weed. Or they kill themselves. But hopefully more of the former.
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Jan 22, 2020 00:08
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I’ve only seen Brent Spiner in Master of Disguise. Apparently he played a robot or something on a tv show?
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Jan 22, 2020 05:12
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Picard gets whisked away to a purely monochrome dimension, sitting in a comfy chair across from a being giving him cryptic, albeit backwards, advice. It’s Mr. Homm.
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Jan 22, 2020 15:48
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Soundtrack is entirely vaporwave
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Jan 22, 2020 17:33
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If this is not the closing credits theme I will be pissed. *dramatic zoom onto Picard’s face as the episode draws to a close* *smash cut to - CAP-TAIN JEAN-LUC-PIC-ARD...
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Jan 22, 2020 17:42
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75% of things wrong with Disco can be usually traced back to some high-as-gently caress decision made by Bryan Fuller, and the last two seasons have been desperately struggling to dig themselves out his influence.
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Jan 22, 2020 17:56
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pyrotek posted:Edit: They should have the credit sequence should be the same as TNG, but with Picard's face in place of the Enterprise. Just go straight up old school Doctor Who opening with Patrick Stewart’s face zooming through subspace
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Jan 22, 2020 21:14
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Rumor has it that Section 31 begins filming in May, apparently.
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Jan 23, 2020 01:08
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Berg and Harberts seemed to love going over budget.
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Jan 23, 2020 01:54
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Did anyone else think Dahj’s exploding effect looked a little wonky? It’s like she disappeared a little too quickly. Or maybe that’ll factor in later? 
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Jan 23, 2020 17:23
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I did find it a little amusing when the FFN used literal screen caps from episodes and movies as official photos of Picard lol
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Jan 23, 2020 19:53
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I know it’s morbid, but every time I hear them mention three seasons for this show, I wonder is Stewart going to last that long?
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Jan 23, 2020 21:39
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Big Mean Jerk posted:They’ll praise it just for not being Discovery while completely pretending any allegorical elements don’t exist. Chuds have a unique ability to watch all media with willful ignorance and treat it all like mindless entertainment with no deeper meaning because recognizing that would challenge their worldview or give them a reason to dislike something they love. I think their robot brains get a tingling sensation caused by the rigid command structure of Starfleet. And that stories are solved by logic and self-determination. Any underlying subtext or allegory either flies over their head undetected or ignored.
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Jan 23, 2020 22:09
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Bets on Data being reconstituted as flesh and blood Brent Spiner by the end of the season?
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Jan 23, 2020 23:04
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TheCenturion posted:Why does she look familiar...why does she look familiar...why does she look OH poo poo IT'S KIM PINE! WE ARE SEX BOB-OMB! ONE TWO THREE FOUR! I can’t believe it’s been a decade since Scott Pilgrim. And Pill is still a total cutie.
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Jan 23, 2020 23:53
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I know he wasn’t 100% spot on, but the CGI work on Data is kinda impressive.
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Jan 24, 2020 02:30
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nine-gear crow posted:You know what, gently caress it, make Harry Kim the captain of the F. Give Garrett Wang some recompense for 7 years of hell on Voyager. Except Captain Kim was rescued from a parallel timeline where he wasn’t such a dweeb. Prime Kim is still an ensign on the same ship.
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Jan 24, 2020 06:08
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Drink-Mix Man posted:It turns out all the discrepancies in Disco are because what we saw was a flawed historical recreation put together in the 31st century, where the show now takes place. I would laugh my rear end of if season 3 starts with a recap of the first two seasons, which then pulls out to show the Disco crew showing it to a bunch of normal looking 31st century Klingons. Stamets: “And that’s how we got here. Also, I forgot to download the holographic Klingon model before we left, so we took some liberties.”
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Jan 24, 2020 17:03
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Rhyno posted:"Hi Chris I'm Nero" Legitimately a great line.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:54
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FlamingLiberal posted:I think like 39 ships were lost in Wolf 359 The USS Kitbash A through Lambda were sadly lost to the Borg
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Jan 24, 2020 20:03
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zoux posted:Would yall join Starfleet or would yall, like me, live a life of aimless luxury space communism while saying “weed, ghost train, dank” to your replicator 5 times a day I’d spend 80 hours a week transporting to mexican restaurants around the world to eat their free chips and salsa but not order anything else
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Jan 24, 2020 23:27
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:The biggest canard I see trotted out is a claim that Star Trek is "about science" which is one of the most incorrect sentences about star trek there is. There's also, typically, something sbout Canon being super dee duper important. This. Star Trek, first and foremost, is constructed of morality plays based on allegories for current events. And these allegories are sometimes hilariously unsubtle. It just has a “hot science of the week” icing on top. People who miss this just baffle me.
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Jan 25, 2020 15:31
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AntherUslessPoster posted:I might sound like an arrogant smartass but when I was in middle school (12-13 y/o) star trek did sound 'whoa science bitch!' in a nerdy way. And there you go. The “smartguy bigbrain” YouTubers haven’t really evolved beyond middle school, socially or emotionally.
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Jan 25, 2020 17:33
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Big Mean Jerk posted:They don’t actually like the franchise, they’re just doing these dumb outrage videos for the clicks because that’s what YouTube has become. I need gay space communism because I want a creative platform that doesn’t immediately get overrun by shills min-maxing its algorithms for profit.
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Jan 25, 2020 18:14
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Gaz-L posted:I want to sit her down in front of, oh, let's say, DS9's Past Tense and ask if it is also a 'bratty kid'. “I don’t like inclusiveness and diversity unless it was in stuff I watched as a literal child. Then it’s okay.”
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Jan 25, 2020 18:43
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AntherUslessPoster posted:I won't judge until I see the full season. I just can't. Its not a trek way to do things right in first season It’s practically a Trek tradition at this point to have a wonky first season.
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Jan 25, 2020 19:28
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I’ve said this before, but Disco had a lot of pressure on it to be good, since it was not only the first Trek series on TV in 12 years, but it was the tentpole show on a new streaming network. CBS execs were probably rightfully jumpy, probably focus-grouped the hell out of the concept, and got rid of anyone that was viewed as a squeaky wheel in its production. This...overbaking, as it were, has led to the majority of Disco’s issues I suspect. They just didn’t have the confidence in a new Trek show to just let it be Trek. But now that they’ve gotten a lot of feedback on Disco, they more than likely were a little more confident in Picard, which is why it seems to be shaping up nicely.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:01
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’m pretty sure someone outed him there as well and he was dropped from the site, but I’m not 100% sure. Yeah, from what I remember, he was quietly dropped with no fanfare. As it should be.
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Jan 27, 2020 01:58
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large_gourd posted:It's just unfortunate that the message of Star Trek has become that utopia isn't possible. Or...maybe it’s that utopia is possible, but it comes with responsibility. If you’re not careful, it can quickly disappear if even a small selection of people fall back into fear. Basically it should the responsibility of everyone to promote open-mindedness and empathy. Utopia must not be taken for granted. Or something. Idk I’m drunk
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Jan 27, 2020 04:27
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Arglebargle III posted:The Federation has no money, no poverty, as of TNG there hadn't been a terrorist attack on Earth in over a century. People forget racism exists sometimes so that Sisko has to remind them. It's not space America. It went out of its way to contrast the Utopian future and the crapsack present many, many times through allegory. Star Trek has always embraced allegory, but it hadn't embraced cynicism until the 2000s. And it sucks and it has sucked for a long time. I get what you’re saying. I really do. And on a certain level, you are absolutely right. But I’m also going to put forth the argument that Star Trek has always reflected what the West, specifically the United States, has thought about itself. During TOS, the country was going through both political and societal upheaval. But a lot of that came with a feeling of hope - there was a better future that was actively being fought for. Massive strides had been made in societal progress, and that was continued as a through-line into the types of stories that were told. By the time TNG rolled around, we had come a long way with warming up relations with the USSR. We had (naively, on a surface level) “solved racism”. The USA was a force of good, a shining beacon of example for the rest of the world. The future literally did seem like we were all going to chill in a Marriott while rubbing crystals all over ourselves, as someone else in this thread basically said. The Gulf War was bad data, but it was “necessary” and for the greater good, at least it seemed at the time. The 90s in the US, while certainly not devoid of poo poo, was “relatively uneventful”. Enterprise needs no explanation, really. We were hurt massively on a cultural level. We had a massive wave of nationalism, and we were out to get the bad guys. And sometimes we had to make hard decisions. And now with Discovery and Picard - culturally we’re at a point where we’re honestly both pissed and embarrassed at ourselves. We’re the crazed hobo yelling at nothing on the subway platform, all the while government and corporate corruption becomes even more blatant and shameless. Again, reflected in Star Trek by shadowy organizations or a Federation fallen on xenophobia and fear. Yes, now more than ever, it would be nice to have a show whose voice says “yes, the future’s gonna be awesome”. But at least with Picard, the message seems to be “it can be awesome, but we’re gonna have to work for it”.
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MichiganCubbie posted:Did he ever write more than just the twitter blurbs about episodes? I think he’s also a writer on Rick and Morty.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:It seemed like all the Trekkies on SA got a pretty good kick out of that Twitter account. Goons typically have a hard time admitting they ever enjoyed anything. We’re a cynical bunch.
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Cojawfee posted:This is the first one of these that's actually funny. I remember I saw a reddit post of someone getting one of the O'Brien ones signed by Colm Meaney and wondered which one I would get signed by him if I were to do such a thing. I looked through as many as I could and realized they were all depressingly sad and not funny. The depressing sadness is what’s funny. At least to me.
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