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Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

sorta seems like this spreads pretty fast yall

have they confirmed if its airborne?

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Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

THE  POSTS  MUST  FLOW
Clapping Larry
I'm in Singapore where we have a couple dozen suspected cases and man oh man do I hope this virus does something to cut down on rush hour traffic.

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1220843228964016130?s=20

seems... bad?

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug
probably fine tho

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Murray Mantoinette posted:

I'm in Singapore where we have a couple dozen suspected cases and man oh man do I hope this virus does something to cut down on rush hour traffic.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

my mother called me when i was eating the buffet and we talked about things including the wuhan fish flu. she had just rewatched contagion the other day

umm

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1220920013273608192
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1220923649366118400

1st off, why should I trust this rando?

2nd, is 3.8 really that bad? Measels spreads to 18 new people per person infection.

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Charlz Guybon posted:

1st off, why should I trust this rando?

2nd, is 3.8 really that bad? Measels spreads to 18 new people per person infection.

his bio links to a harvard professor with the same name, but I could theoretically see someone trolling in some way? I don't know though, seems like a lot of work for a troll? 80-20 real-fake?

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug

Charlz Guybon posted:

1st off, why should I trust this rando?

2nd, is 3.8 really that bad? Measels spreads to 18 new people per person infection.

here's the paper he's referencing. it's a preprint. team is epidemiologists and biostats people from Lancaster university

this doesn't sound great:

quote:

With these caveats in mind, our work suggests that a basic reproductive number for this 2019-nCoV outbreak is higher compared to other emergent coronaviruses, suggesting that containment or control of this pathogen may be substantially more difficult.

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets

Charlz Guybon posted:

1st off, why should I trust this rando?

2nd, is 3.8 really that bad? Measels spreads to 18 new people per person infection.

I mean measles is one of the most infectious viruses out there. Nothing that you compare it to will be as transmissible as measles.

Edit: an R0 value of 4 is about as transmissible as chicken pox

Lote fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Jan 25, 2020

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
anyone cheering this thing on realize that bernard sanders is 78 years old

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

my mother called me when i was eating the buffet and we talked about things including the wuhan fish flu. she had just rewatched contagion the other day

umm

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1220920013273608192
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1220923649366118400

hmmm, seems like this might be... bad?

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY

vyelkin posted:

hmmm, seems like this might be... bad?

Regarding that paper, it being a preprint, is not really ready to be published.

The reproduction number in that version of the paper 3.8 [A shocker of a number], apparently has been reduced to 2.5 after it got media attention.

Heres another paper that tries to do the same thing in estimating the infection numbers.
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.3.2000044?emailalert=true

At this stage however its all guesswork.

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


fish flu needs a r0 of 4.20 and a mortality rate of 6.9% for the memes

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
me, a simpleton: hmm, this flu may be bad, we should take precautions and do research
you, a harvard intellectual: WE'RE ALL GONNA loving DIE

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

TeenageArchipelago posted:

fish flu needs a r0 of 4.20 and a mortality rate of 6.9% for the memes
Unfortunately, of the first 41 patients, 100% developed pneumonia, and despite all being hospitalized 15% of them died

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...e-idUSKBN1ZN2J8

Maybe some of us have a chance.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



In just three months time,

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
This reminds me of the Ebola thread a few years ago, 50,000,000,000,000 incoming deaths

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos

Ah yes

Vaccine right after the primaries

How convenient

snoo
Jul 5, 2007




can't wait for this to be my first and final flu-like illness

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Centrist Committee posted:

This reminds me of the Ebola thread a few years ago, 50,000,000,000,000 incoming deaths

i was dumb about ebola so im going to hold off on the freaking out until it gets undeniable

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Centrist Committee posted:

This reminds me of the Ebola thread a few years ago, 50,000,000,000,000 incoming deaths

it's just a matter of when

snoo
Jul 5, 2007




lmao it's too late we're so hosed

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

i was dumb about ebola so im going to hold off on the freaking out until it gets undeniable

yah me too I’m just going to tune this out until I’m hauled off to the fema contamination camps

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Wrong thread

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib

fart simpson posted:

a guy collapsed near my apartment in shenzhen yesterday and everyone freaked out, turned out he was just falling down drunk

drat rip to a real one

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

orange sky posted:

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1219620756440653825

Goddamn it i love this woman, she has all the plans. shes the one to lead us into the future

:stare:

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


snoo posted:

lmao it's too late we're so hosed

lol that owns

orange sky
May 7, 2007


My man, I actually pressed the link cause I thought you might have gone through my posting history in like 2017 or something lol

succ
Nov 11, 2016

by Cyrano4747
lol china is under reporting their numbers

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Absolutely and with an incubation period of 10-14 days millions more than we think are fuuucked

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Or not

orange sky
May 7, 2007

That's not very cspam

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Sorry, thousands of bat blood drenched human skulls found on plane at LAX.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
Was it a 787 max?

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Can we get a 14 day doomsday clock going

JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1220937434445295617

should I buy a gun, a ticket to Madagascar, or both?

JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

all those idiot preppers with chemical toilets and small arm stockpiles are going to dance on our graves.

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Niton
Oct 21, 2010

Your Lord and Savior has finally arrived!

..got any kibble?

Ora Tzo posted:

Regarding that paper, it being a preprint, is not really ready to be published.

The reproduction number in that version of the paper 3.8 [A shocker of a number], apparently has been reduced to 2.5 after it got media attention.

Heres another paper that tries to do the same thing in estimating the infection numbers.
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.3.2000044?emailalert=true

At this stage however its all guesswork.

I haven't done too much reading into this specific paper, but a big part of the problem is that for an emergent virus like this it's extremely difficult to tell how many people are just fighting it off effortlessly, or at home rather than seeking attention. We're still far from accurate number even if we had perfect information, and while the bad cases are scary as poo poo, there's a lot of guesswork as to how bad the "average" case actually is.

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