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Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
The guy posting a bunch of incoherent fear-mongering bullshit on a chan site is...lying??????

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Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
We should definitely keep posting things like the epic scientist man going HOLY MOTHERFARKING SHITBALLS at bad info itt.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
The virus presents with pneumonia-like symptoms and if you pull through those you test negative so I'm not sure why people are dumping on the use of the word "cured." What should they be saying instead?

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Pooky posted:

Recovered maybe?

I guess, but if you're no longer a vector that sounds like a functional cure to me.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

MorrisBae posted:

Herpes lives in your system after you are no longer systematic

You are not cured of herpes

So does chicken pox. This all seems like semantics nerd poo poo.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

MorrisBae posted:

Herpes lives in your system after you are no longer systematic

You are not cured of herpes

So does chicken pox. This all seems like semantics nerd poo poo.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Mantis42 posted:

frantically typing "bat soup" into grubhub right now

Bat soup is a dish in Palau, which is where all those viral videos came from. It's not commonly eaten in Wuhan or really most anywhere in China.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Soy Division posted:

it’s gonna take a serious cluster of infections outside of China for us to get reliable stats on this poo poo

Waiting for the notoriously reliable and honest US government to provide the real numbers. I'm a leftist.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

there's only what, like 90,000 ICU beds available in the entire us?

sounds like the pro move is to catch it early and get a bed then walk around all smug and immune while the other losers sleep in hospital hallways after the beds are all gone

You're not immune after pulling through an infection. Not with this one anyway.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1221454177123086336?s=20

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
HK protesters have baby brains.

https://twitter.com/hoccgoomusic/status/1221286044072435715?s=20

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
Wuhan Expats Fed Up With Foreign Media Hype

quote:

Many journalists have been posting in the group looking for people to comment. One from the UK’s Evening Standard got just that. It read, “How about doing articles on road accidents in Asia and ensuring the entire Asian media see them?”

Daniel Pekárek sized up the opinion of many a Wuhan expat today. “Seeing the reactions from outside world, especially in western media, racist, political comments and so on is so disgusting, people should stop this.”

Other requests from journalists have come from Australia, Italy, France, Canada, Ireland and the Philippines. Carr also asked whether there is any way to ban journalists from the group.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1221326661930622976?s=19

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

vyelkin posted:

the WHO did a live Q&A and here are some of the takeaways:

  • panic
  • panic
  • panic
  • PANIC
  • PANIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
Feel like some people in here are not so subtly lusting for mass Indian death.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Bip Roberts posted:

The illness in india is notable because they're as dense as china but without the totalitarian government will for control that is the best hope for allowing this to burn out.

Ah, "will for control," a trait only evil communist governments have and not literal fascists.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
Anyway I wasn't even referring to that one case, just noticing the posts asking whether it's spread to India yet have a weirdly anticipatory tone to them.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

SKULL.GIF posted:

You can post like a normal person instead of someone trying to missile a nuclear own onto this thread, it's OK, it's actually fun. Come join us. We all float down here,

You are decidedly not posting like "a normal person" in the slightest. The guy who lives in Wuhan probably stopped posting here because of the apocalyptic nature of what you and others are saying.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Epic.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

I think the perspective of someone who lived for a couple years in a country that 10 years ago had hardly any high-speed rail lines but how has twice as much track as the rest of the world combined is worth very little.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
For one, the "everybody gets an IV at the hospital" thing used to be true but I've heard it's way less common now.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
https://twitter.com/S_Rabinovitch/status/1222165940281991168?s=20

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

FRINGE posted:

Im sure you like talking about trains and exact figures of laid train tracks, but the perspective on cultural reactions to things is worthwhile. I had no idea about the fetishization of IVs for example.

The point is China is a rapidly changing place and the perspective of someone who lived there a decade ago is like talking to someone who lived in the US 30 years ago about what it's like there now. I picked trains because it's the most glaring example of that change.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Ah the epic bacon scientist man is back!

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

pigz posted:

The 7-10 days peak prediction was not from an epidemiologist and I only saw the one guy saying it. I don't think that is going to be the case.

It was from a respiratory disease specialist who was on the front lines of fighting SARS. But I'm enjoying very smart goons mocking that guy because they made a spreadsheet or whatever the gently caress.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

sincx posted:

A reasonably good article in the NYT.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/30/opinion/coronavirus-china-epidemic.html

Fairly balanced analysis of both the coronavirus situation, and the political machinations behind it:

This loving sucks dude. There's no such thing as a good NYT article, even with qualifiers.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Jose posted:

UK coronavirus cases being treated in newcastle so I might get to actually post through it lol

Not again!!!!

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Charlz Guybon posted:

This fuckin train I'm on just stopped at Cheongju international airport. It's a tiny airport, but still, it's an airport and it serves flights to China.

Better ensconce yourself in a plastic bubble then.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
Two weeks is the absolute max and very unusual, from what I understand. Typically it's 1-4 days.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

pigz posted:

Huh I wonder if 2% of a large number could be more than 10% of a comparatively smaller number..

In any case we don't know enough so comparisons shouldn't be made. A less deadly but more infectious virus can kill waaaay more people total since it'll be harder to contain so more people will get it.

pretty sur its clear that this will kill more people than Sars once it's said and done, unfortunately. Unless ur team 'leading Respitory expert who said it would be over I 7-10 days three days ago' then uhh carry on I guess. Because otherwise it seems a lock we could reach the 40k infected

He didn't say it would be over, he said it would peak. Meaning infections would continue but the rate of infection would start dropping. You people are morons.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
The interesting thing is that the number of cases in Hubei is still going up, but the rate of infection in the rest of China appears to have plateaued and is actually going down. 611 yesterday and 557 today. Suggests China's response has worked as far as containing the spread goes, but the epicenter is still seeing big increases.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

yesterday there was 2000 infections, today it was 2500. you really think a 25% increase is going to plateau in just a few days?

It might, it might not. It was just a prediction people ITT are misinterpreting for their masturbatory doomsday fantasies. We're still a week out from 10 days and like I said above, the number is dropping for the rest of the country. If the growth stays localized it will be easier to stem.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

RandomBlue posted:

It came from the GBS thread and yes it's racist as poo poo.

But you repeat yourself.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

yeah bat soup flu is like a racist /pol/ thing because apparently bats are a delicacy in wuhan, yeah? but i assumed that bats were involved because a bat poo poo in a pig pen like in my favorite movie, contagion

Bats aren't even a delicacy in China. The videos that were going around were from Palau.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Random rear end in a top hat posted:

Oh cool, the two-week infectious incubation period is actually real, and not a single weird outlier! Awesome!

But of course it won't be a problem, because infections are totally gonna plateau any day now... yup, aaaaannnnyyyy day now...

Shut the gently caress up.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
It's just more insipid mockery of the guy widely recognized as the hero of the SARS outbreak, who made the prediction of an infection peak.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Random rear end in a top hat posted:

I'm not mocking him, like the WHO I'm sure he's under a tremendous degree of pressure to not say anything that would harm China's economy, look how mad they were when Trump voluntarily asked people not to travel to Chinese airports.

I'm mocking you, and people like you, who've totally uncritically latched on to that statement without considering that it might just be propaganda. Like, what actual reason is there to believe that it's just going to slow down? The virus is in so many countries now, many of which don't have strong central govt's like China, are they all going to perfectly handle the situation? Like, even in the absolute best case scenario for China, that one guy could easily have created a whole new cluster in Vietnam, which could then become a new focal point - and that's just one person, in one country.

I haven't "latched on" to anything, I posted it here and then a bunch of mouth-breathers who haven't had an original thought in their lives started repeating it in a sarcastic tone while making the jerk-off motion.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Crazy Achmed posted:

that said it would be nice to know roughly how many people have caught this thing and got better since

The recovery rate passed the death rate a few days ago and it's about even. I think 350 recoveries vs 300 deaths.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
Those are just hospitalized cases, of course, so there's no hard and fast number for people who had milder symptoms and self-treated at home.

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Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

SchrodingersCat posted:

I keep seeing a very obviously staged video of a group of 20 "cured patients" leaving a Chinese hospital, all in a massive group, and they are all happy and smiling and waving and I'm like, bitch please, that's not how that works. When you leave a hospital you are usually still half-dead, not happily walking around under your own power.

People aren't released until they stop showing symptoms and test negative for the virus over several days. So the last few days of inpatient treatment seem to be healthy people just waiting around for the all-clear.

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