cargo cult posted:

how popular is bernie in your country and europe at large?

logger posted:

Jesus Christ, I didn't do the math before but in the last year I donated $1,400 to bernie

Please help me budget this my family is dying.

TyrantWD posted:

I'm rooting for Bernie, but Bernie or Bust is worse than being a MAGA chud. RBG is staying alive out of pure spite at the moment, but she is not hanging on until November 2024. Heck, I'd go for a Bloomberg/Booker ticket if that's the alternative.

Ice Phisherman posted:

Hell loving yeah.

Total party realignment. Both parties if Sanders wins hard enough. Those grifters, those conspirators to maintain power and give nothing back can gently caress the gently caress off forever. Because when people actually get a taste of socialism, they tend to like it. In fact, they tend to like it a lot and will furiously defend their new rights against people who would water them down. When people get medicare for all it'll take decades to dismantle. Touching it will be a third rail topic.

The DNC is party apparatus is hollow and it can be taken. The republican party has been completely hollowed out of anything like party planks other than tax cuts and white supremacy, both of which are not liked by the majority of Americans. Sign new voters the gently caress up, meet their material needs, give them a voice and you have a new base. Once that base is large enough you jettison the libs and they can water down the republicans while also civilizing their worst impulses with constant tut-tutting. And the republicans will tone it down because they're not getting voters from elsewhere as they spiral into death from lack of voters. Their base now will hate it because their frothing while supremacy will drive off former democratic voters, but that's not my loving problem. Let the right wingers try to drag that dead weight and see how they like it.

Ice Phisherman posted:

Real question. How is it better than Norway's?

Thlom posted:

Needs to be said; co-pay in Norway is limited to like NOK 2500 a year, which is like $260, and this includes prescription drugs for chronic or long lasting sickness (and some other drugs). Antibiotics and things that you only need for a short while are not covered (but are usually not extremely expensive). Dental is mostly covered up until you are 18 (except braces and other elective procedures), vision is also covered for children (at least a bare minimum). And for adults there's some exceptions to the above. We have things to improve for sure, but it's not like we are bankrupted by medical costs (yet). Just need to kick out our current right wing government to prevent them from gutting and privatising our medical system further ...

Shere posted:

I don't wanna blogpost in this thread or anything, but I'm a relatively young healthy guy and haven't had much personal experience with... needing healthcare, like beyond routine visits. I figure maybe some of you on the early side of 30 are in a similar boat.

I'm in the hospital right now because I lost consciousness in my living room apparently, as my wife tells it. She called 911 and I got an ambulance ride. The first thing that happened in the ER after they got my name, DoB, and a rundown of my symptoms is they started trying to figure out if I was in network (I'm not, the ambulance just took me to the nearest hospital). They did this weird mating ritual with the on-call case handler for my network by calling her at 1am (2 full hours after I arrived) expecting her not to answer. If she doesn't then I get to stay where I am (covered). If she does, they want to put be back in an ambulance and drive me to another loving hospital (which sure doesn't seem to be in anyone's best interest, least of all mine).

Before I've even been seen by a doctor they ask me if I can make the $150 copay. A nurse comes in and starts taking my vitals. Asks me as a joke if I passed out because "I was watching Bernie" to which I was lucid enough to say "No, but I hope he wins" and she scoffed "We'll just disagree on that one".

The gently caress is wrong with this country?

Fake edit: I'm okay and eating hospital breakfast and the doctors think I'm fine. I was already voting for Bernie, but this poo poo just solidifies it. I have a good union-negotiated plan, for the record.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the TV rotted our brains long ago my dude, kill cable news if it ever shows up in Norway

Or Denmark, I forgot where you’re from. sorry!

The Dark Project posted:

The Dark Project posted:

Explain to me exactly how not taking what little leverage you have and using it gets you into a better winning position in the future than you are in now? Outside of hypotheticals, because I see this getting bandied around a lot and I am really struggling to find a real-world example where this actually works.