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PepsiOverCoke posted:I'm not going to link to folks personal social media accounts, especially when those posts arent public, sorry. So who's rereg are you and why are you doing free spin for Pete? He's done, btw, he went all in on Iowa and has no path. With Biden done too, seems like only Bernie has a viable path to the nomination. You love to see it.
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HonorableTB posted:I know we're all about ideological purity here but the amount of people going after PepsiOverCoke and how vitriolic they are is pretty gross. Dude stepped up to be a precinct captain and many people in this thread are savaging him because he supported a different Dem but ran a fair caucus. Jesus Christ folks it's not like we're dealing with a chud here This isn't picking football teams, if you prefer Buttigieg to Sanders you're picking a worse option for American politics and that affects people the world over. Bernie is the only acceptable candidate if you consider yourself left leaning.
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Feb 4, 2020 23:48
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Cpt_Obvious posted:The Iowa caucus results will be out before NH Do you know something we don't? Because I have seen zero indication this is true or confirmed in any way, there is still no ETA on when we get 100% results.
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Feb 5, 2020 16:04
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I'm guessing they are trying to bury the tesults., The same way they buried the poll results on Saturday. They delayed release until a bigger story came along, in this case the day of the Iowa caucus. The problem is, there is no bigger loving story right now. They can try to hide behind impeachment, but nobody is paying attention to that shitshow. You're either too depressed by it's inevitable failure, or so absolutely sure of Trump's innocence you don't want to watch it. Ah, okay, so you don't know. You could have just said that, all I was looking for was info to see if someone had heard when they're releasing full IA results. For the record, CNN just reported there is still no ETA on full Iowa results.
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Feb 5, 2020 16:22
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Dude, calm down. We are all very upset. I am making a prediction based purely on guesswork. And it seems to be a minority report at this point. I apologize if you read anger in the tone of my post, there was none intended. I'm was just looking for information on when the Iowa results would come out.
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Feb 5, 2020 16:44
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PepsiOverCoke posted:That was a joke Who are you voting for in the primary? If it's Pete, just say so, we're not going to demand your head, we just want you to be upfront and honest. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 5, 2020 21:36
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Ahahahahahahaha Bernie is actually going to win. Eat poo poo, Pete fans. You're supporting a terrible man to be President and should feel ashamed of yourselves.
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Feb 6, 2020 07:08
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PepsiOverCoke posted:Its not fraud, but the satellite sites DO have a disproportionate number of delegates which is absolutely benefiting Sanders disproportionately. Yeah, let's do that, actually. They support a terrible candidate, it feels pretty good to mock them. Again, this is not picking football teams to like. They support a ratfucking sociopath to be our country's President, that is a terrible moral decision to make and should be rightfully shunned.
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Feb 6, 2020 16:56
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sean10mm posted:Dumb question, is there a reason people donate odd quantities to Bernie like $27 instead of just doing an even It's a reference to the average donation amount he received in 2016.
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Trabisnikof posted:lol well it was a “fun” gimmick while it lasted! I got a 6er for asking who he wanted to vote for lmao great stuff.
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Feb 6, 2020 20:28
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Bakanogami posted:I need to stop looking at these threads, I'm too shook. All I see are different ways things could go terribly wrong. Welcome to a primary, a contest where only one candidate can win, this is what they're usually like, everyone forgot because 2016 was a coronation instead. The vast majority of the Democratic voters will unify behind the eventual nominee (Bernie) like they always do, plus he will have millions of non-traditional voters who are actually excited to vote for Bernie.
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Feb 7, 2020 00:40
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Apocalypse posted:LOL. Well I guess that's true. But if we even have a chance of converting Pete voters, only pointing out the substantive flaws will do. What do posts in one thread on a Something Awful subforum have anything to do with winning over Pete voters? Do you imagine there are hundreds of thousands of Pete lurkers reading this thread, getting offended by all these darn Bernie posters not having enough respect for their ratfucking candidate? This thread will have 0 material effect on the actual election, it's ridiculous to see posters complain about indecorous posting like it will actually turn real life voters off Bernie.
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Feb 7, 2020 03:24
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amaru_chulla posted:Whoa no way, skex was wrong about something that was easily verifiable. VH4Ever posted:You wasted all these words just to regurgitate stuff that's already been addressed ITT dozens of times. Just wasted them. Are you happy with yourself? It's nice to see Skex finally wear out his last bit of good will on these forums. Of course he's sympathetic to Chris Matthew's insane Cold War fears, because Skex has the exact same fears himself. Skex, your way is done. The world is changing, get on board or get out of the way. E: VVV Better after that debate, what a magical night WampaLord fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Feb 8, 2020 |
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Feb 8, 2020 16:02
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oxsnard posted:the catch 22 of the GND is that if immediate, drastic mobilization is required, corporations will have to get pulled in, and many of them will make lots of money. You can't practically just nationalize every industry in 5 years. Mining, chemicals, asphalt, construction etc will be absolutely gangbusters. It also will increase national CO2 emissions in the short term. Fossil fuel production and use will all but certainly rise over the coming 15-20 years. I actually think you can get corporate signoff on this, as capex deployment will be massive. You have to make sure to capture taxes from them, but I don't think it's impossible to sell to a portion of capitalists tbqh So what I'm hearing from you is that the GND will jumpstart the economy? Wow, sounds great! There are truly no downsides, as long as we make sure to tax the gently caress out of these corporations.
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Feb 8, 2020 20:53
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CelestialScribe posted:Even if a poll is wrong it can still accurately show momentum. NH is going to be incredibly close. For every bad poll you post, there is also a good one. Also, you have been virulently anti-Sanders for months in these threads, always proclaiming his impending doom and how M4A can't possibly happen. Hey, you ever dig into Bernie's tax returns? Remember those? The ones he released as promised that you got into a big stink about? https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1226189385734983680
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Feb 9, 2020 02:12
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Those youth turnout numbers someone posted earlier are the entire loving ballgame if that trend continues across the country. The zoomers will save us all. eta: 
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Feb 9, 2020 02:14
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V. Illych L. posted:assume that sanders is going to be edged out as things stand, it is the most healthy attitude in case of defeat and it's the most motivational world-view You can stay motivated to volunteer without Chicken Littling about Bernie's chances. He is clearly the favorite to win New Hampshire. Cpt_Obvious posted:Someone asked for the source for these numbers earlier. Were they ever posted? This NY Times site appear to have the same data: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/03/us/elections/results-iowa-caucus-polls.html
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Feb 9, 2020 02:15
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Eminai posted:The way Chapo acts is conducive to getting people off the sidelines active in politics, though. I haven't listened but I can't imagine they're less hostile to Warren supporters than this thread, and this thread is what got me to donate/volunteer for Bernie this election cycle. Indeed!  https://www.salon.com/2018/06/10/how-linkedin-made-this-failmom-into-a-socialist/
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Feb 9, 2020 02:48
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https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1226312528592064513 That's pretty impressive. Seems like people are realizing Bernie is the frontrunner.
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Feb 9, 2020 03:07
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oxsnard posted:Has anyone else besides Bernie released January fundraising numbers? I've only seen a couple of campaigns (Pete and Amy) release their post-Iowa or post-debate numbers, I don't think any other campaign has released their full January numbers yet (because they all are worse than Bernie's probably)
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Feb 9, 2020 17:22
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CelestialScribe posted:You think literally 0 people who vote for Pete can be persuaded to vote for Bernie in the primary / general? Yes
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Feb 10, 2020 00:30
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mcmagic posted:I don't agree with this. A lot of them will just vote against Trump in the General. He's asking a ridiculous question, I gave him a ridiculous answer
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Feb 10, 2020 00:36
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CelestialScribe posted:Would Castro be a good VP for Sanders? No. Fantasy casting the VP is such a pointless waste of time anyway, it's ultimately Bernie's decision to make if he wins the nomination. If you trust him to be President, trust that he will pick a good VP.
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Feb 10, 2020 04:15
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Riptor posted:what a weird fuckin take I guess? To me, I just don't see the point of the back and forth of "well I think X should be Bernie's VP" when we have zero loving influence over it. Can you think of any reason Bernie would pick a bad Vice President? I can't and that's good enough for me. Ice Phisherman posted:I think that it's important for him to pick a good VP because he's 78 and has had a heart attack in the last year. If he dies in office or enters into a decline then someone has to continue the work. I repeat the question, do you have any reason to suspect he'll make a bad choice?
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Feb 10, 2020 04:23
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Ice Phisherman posted:Most of us don't have a large influence on politics and we debate out of a sense of shared madness. And if you're just screaming into the wind, that's basically all it is. Dude, I volunteer plenty, you don't have to convince me, I still think fantasy casting the VP is a really pointless thought exercise and literally any other part of the primary would be more interesting to discuss. Ice Phisherman posted:I don't think that he'll make a bad choice. My worry is that there won't be any good choices who could fill his shoes if he's incapacitated or dies. Even with some seasoning to get them ready for the job, it still might not be possible even years later, much less before the election. Bernie is pretty unique in terms of how much he's liked and how he appeals to people. I'm not sure who would have the right amount of moral fiber, political clout and name recognition to take over for him. I think you're being overly pessimistic. The Neal! posted:https://twitter.com/BethLynch2020/status/1226705793019449345?s=20  
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Feb 10, 2020 05:03
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Kraftwerk posted:It's poo poo and I've long despised it. Everyone treats stock market valuations like they're the be all and end all. Kraftwerk posted:I've been arzying like crazy since this primary got started but I'm gonna take everyone's advice and take some breaks from this topic where possible. Maybe take your own advice and don't pre-worry about 2022 midterms. One fight at a time.
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Feb 10, 2020 05:28
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Paradoxish posted:There's reason to think we'll get creamed in the midterms just because we'll be the party in power. That said, a president that's actually doing things is pretty new territory and maybe it'll have a positive effect. I'm pretty confident that Bernie will be way more successful than Obama at getting across a message of "this is good and helpful and you will like it" when it comes to his policy agenda. poo poo, legalizing weed on Day 1 might win him the 2022 midterms right there. We have no idea because we haven't had a President just do straight up awesome things like that before.
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Feb 10, 2020 05:35
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Fun to watch all the anti Bernie types itt switch to "he can't win the general!" style concern trolling now that they realize Bernie Will Win
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Feb 10, 2020 18:15
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Dietrich posted:Just for transparency's sake, I'm 100% pro Bernie. I just think the DNC will fall in line once his nomination is inevitable rather than turbo-gently caress themselves into irrelevancy, the same way GOP backers fell in line behind Trump. I assume you can imagine, based on the recent events in Iowa and the potential fuckery going on in Nevada right now, why other posters would not share your confidence about the DNC falling in line. However, I personally agree, I think the bulk of them are cowards and want to try to secure a job in a potential Sanders administration and will act like they were onboard the whole time.
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Feb 10, 2020 18:44
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oxsnard posted:my bernie hoodie finally shipped, two months after ordering it. Yay I think the store is suffering from surprisingly large demand and that's why things are delayed. A pretty good sign, imo.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:04
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mcmagic posted:I ordered a sweatshirt and got it like 1 week later... For the record I can never trust any post you make that ends in an ellipsis. Good for you, if true. I've heard a lot of people having order delays, and again, pretty sure it's due to overwhelming popular demand for Bernie merch.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:13
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FizFashizzle posted:That’s not the narrative the media will create and you know it. How much have media narratives influenced the actual election results so far? The media was pumping up Warren and Klob (The NYT gave them a dual endorsement!) and they both ate poo poo. Obviously the media is going to attack Bernie, but they attacked Trump a bunch in 2016 and it only made him stronger.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:18
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FizFashizzle posted:A poo poo load after the Iowa debacle. Not really, Pete gained a bump for a day or two, then it went away in another day or two. If Bernie wins by a comfortable margin in NH, all of this Iowa nonsense will be a bad joke and easily forgotten.
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goethe.cx posted:Pete's bump hasn't gone away, but it hasn't increased anymore either. If he loses NH I don't see how he gets any further I guess a more accurate phrasing would be "Pete shrank the gap between him and Bernie but now it is back to pre-Iowa levels"
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Feb 10, 2020 19:51
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VitalSigns posted:OK it's time for all the people who have been predicting Biden's collapse for a year and a half to take a victory lap over the tiresome poll-clutchers who incessantly waved around a bunch of bullshit fake data and insisted that this was the only real reality and that anyone who didn't automatically believe the same pollsters who were wrong in 2016 is "denying reality" It's great fun watching actual reality prove that the "insane" Bernie people are and were correct over and over again
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Jaxyon posted:I can't believe Bloomberg is doing that well. He's not, it's exactly like when Biden was "doing well" Polls are not votes!
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Feb 10, 2020 23:48
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King of Solomon posted:It's so loving close to Bernie taking all of the delegates, and I want that so much. C'mon Warren, drop 2%. Just 2% splitting into also-rans and we get the best scenario out of California. With the margin of error, she might already be below 15%. But also do not expect polls to predict things that closely this far out. They're wrong when they're done even the day before. Overall trends look very good for Bernie at the moment, though, you do love to see it.
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King of Solomon posted:No, I know. Polls are bullshit propaganda. I just want those numbers to be close to correct, because Bernie winning every single delegate out of loving California would be huge. I share your desire, friend.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Spotted Of course I comment on some of the tweets people post here, can't resist the temptation sometimes.
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