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Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Nairbo posted:

Jesus I’m not even American and I think some of you are dumb for your doomer poo poo. Biden isn’t going to come back and win this, he’s absolutely done. The only person with even a sliver of possibility to win against this momentum would be Bloomberg but that won’t Happen

its how a lot of us felt at the end of 2016 on voting night. djt would never win, he's a complete fuckhead who openly admitted to sexual harassment and oh wait oops he won.

the time to rest is after bernie's the president-elect and not a moment sooner.


E: its important to keep the fire on for all the down ticket races too. its not just the top. we have to crush this election

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Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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PotatoManJack posted:

This is actually really uncomfortable to watch it's so bad.

It's a whole thread of these clips, even

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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How are u posted:

I think the "Biden loses to Trump, 100% of the time, carve it in stone, it's a law of physics" poo poo is absolutely an artifact of this thread being an echo chamber. Biden sucks, but he'll beat Trump.

That was said in 2016, too (just replace Biden with Clinton).

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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booseek posted:

Centrism is much less an ideology than it is a strategy. If the wind blows left -- and it's loving hurricane-ing left -- they will move left. All the centrist talk about budgets and all that is because of the centrist belief that they can get moderates on their side.

ah yes, just like 2008, where we had a progressive, hurricane-winds movement in Obama, who proceeded to poo poo all over his campaign promises and deliver an excruciatingly terrible "moderate" two terms in which we bailed out too-big-to-fail banks with no real repercussions and managed to pass a Republican health care plan that did little of value.


also :hmbol: at biden being the "furthest left president"

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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booseek posted:

What did Obama promise? A public option, which couldn't pass, and would have been a little bit better than Obamacare. And Obamacare is not a "plan," but a law that did a lot of good like expand Medicaid and made denying for pre-existing conditions illegal.

"Couldn't pass"? The ACA was a total handout to insurers. The Medicaid expansion was optional and a lot of states decided not to implement it.

But it did add a penalty tax if you didn't have insurance, while implementing a horrible mismash of "exchanges" that offered absolute garbage plans that were arguably worse than being uninsured. (High cost, even higher deductibles, and coverage caps that meant you'd still be hosed in almost any case.)

It did good, but again, it was a Republican plan.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Darko posted:

That was pretty much my social media post today; I've been saving it until today since it's voting day.

"Hey my dad died because he avoided going to hospitals when he showed heart issues due to the cost but vote how you want I guess"

Just makes me think of a friend from several years ago who got sick, couldn't afford to visit a doctor, and ended up passing away. gently caress. :smith:

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Apogee15 posted:

-edit- also no is going to watch the debate when they already know Biden has the nomination

They don't have to watch the debate.

If Biden makes a fool of himself during it, I'd wager those clips will get played on repeat on poo poo like Fox News.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Angry_Ed posted:

As we all know, most of the people that vote Democrat also watch Fox News.

The target demographic is olds, and they watch FN in droves. It's also the default white noise for a lot of TVs in businesses.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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If only this was used as a reason to move to fully absentee, mail-in ballots everywhere. And change all the election days to be the same rather than the disjointed hell-mess it is now.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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V. Illych L. posted:

i think there is a value to the collective political demonstration that voting day is

I don't. Absentee and mail-in ballots are far more accessible and (arguably) less prone to voter disenfranchisement bullshit. Any value in demonstrations like that pales in comparison.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Xombie posted:

This view is indistinguishable from Libertarians saying government programs don't work and that people know how to spend their own money better.

the problem is that these government programs don't work, because they've been hosed up and sabotaged

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Republicans posted:

If Obama taught us anything never start a negotiation with republicans from a point of compromise.

Isn't that negotiation in general? You gun for what you want and go back and forth and hope you find something both parties can agree to.

Granted, the range where both parties will agree might as well not exist, but regardless it makes no sense to start having already compromised away two thirds of what you want.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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I like the bit about newer generations preferring "fairness and support" over "freedom and choice" :unsmith:

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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gandlethorpe posted:

Biden has always been an animated character, and we shouldn't shame him for having only one outfit

This makes sense, as the party is now desperately trying to find a way to reanimate him.



:dadjoke:

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Casey Finnigan posted:

Yeah I just wanna make sure people know about that, I definitely fell for a fair amount of those before I learned that.

It's infuriating how many people fall for just screenshots. They've always been easy to edit, but in recent years it's only gotten easier to mess with webpages and fake poo poo.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Concerned Citizen posted:

Which democracy gives the win to the 2nd place candidate if the first place one dies or drops out, rather than re-run the election?

in nevada "none of these candidates" can win and if it does the election goes to the second place finisher. also your posts are bad

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Concerned Citizen posted:

Your example is if the winner is literally not a person?

candidate dies before election, wins election anyway, election is not re-run

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Marxalot posted:

Cable news is nothing but a loving poison, and we won't have anything remotely resembling a democracy so long as those immensely wealthy propagandists hold power over us

:hmmyes:

The 24-hour news cycle and the pivot towards sensationalism and reaction-garnering reporting has been absolutely toxic for anyone who wants to actually stay informed. poo poo's only covered as long as it gets ratings and then it's dropped and buried for the latest mild controversy.


quote:

Biden isn't attacking Trump because reasons

It's like watching Charlie Brown going to kick the football, except Lucy isn't there to take the football away because Charlie Brown didn't even bother to bring one.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Cpt_Obvious posted:

Cuz that worked SO loving well.

Jesus. He can't even hire competent monsters to defend himself.

I mean, it took how long for him to finally face consequences for it, and even then a good amount of the charges were dropped?

Dude got out of it with way less consequences than he should have, but then he also got away with it for way, way, way too long.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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On a side note Catch and Kill is a really good book about the whole mess

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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So, with the fear of a socialist out of the picture, how long until the media declares open season on Biden?

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Julias posted:

Biden 2020: Whoever Wins, We Lose

Biden 2020: Two Zeroes in Two Zero

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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Rockit posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/29/us/politics/tara-reade-joe-biden.html

Here's why orgs have been silent apparently.
The campaign straight out lied to them or thought their current messaging was enough.

We should hear more later since their response to this was "No one cares shut up!"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...71fc_story.html

At least some people are putting pressure on him.

scrolled to the bottom of this and was immediately greeted by

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Former Senator Barbara Boxer of California, who has endorsed Mr. Biden, said in an interview that she thought the campaign had handled Ms. Reade’s allegation “well” and that it had “done everything that they can do.” She said the Biden campaign had not given her talking points.

“If they ask me my advice," she said, “it would be keep on doing what they’re doing.”

:hmmyes:

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Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



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i'm honestly worried about biden's brainworms. there can't be much left in there to feast on.

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