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Rooting for Sanders on Monday. I'm currently playing the Tom Steyer drinking game. I bought a good bottle of whiskey last month, and every day I go home and check the mail. If I have a campaign flyer from Steyer, I don't have a drink. The bottle is still sealed.
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Oh hey, they didn't even wait for Iowa this time. https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1223378150316367872 DNC's already showing how they're gonna put the knife in to try and keep Bernie out this time.
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Feb 1, 2020 00:27
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exquisite tea posted:I support Bloomberg entering the debates because I want to see Bernie tee off against the living embodiment of an impossibly vain billionaire trying to buy his way into an election. Nah, that would let Warren get away with not making some insanely petty and avoidable self-own on stage, which needs to happen at this point to either get her to shape up or admit defeat.
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Feb 1, 2020 00:33
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How can the Democratic party machine be this loving inept even when it's trying to gently caress someone over before the primaries start? It boggles the mind, but offers a lot of explanations for why the GOP still exists...
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Feb 1, 2020 00:42
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hobotrashcanfires posted:Why would anyone float a 2024 change right now? There's no way they aren't just testing the waters for either changing the rules or how well a 2nd round ratfuck would play. They think the leftists are going to go away when Trump does. The DNC elites are frighteningly out of touch with the grass roots.
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Feb 1, 2020 00:46
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The powerful self owns never stop. https://twitter.com/colinkalmbacher/status/1223347764655988736
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Feb 1, 2020 02:38
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Wicked Them Beats posted:You know how this could hurt Bernie? If Bernie were a wishy-washy candidate who crumbled at the first sign of criticism and started backtracking and apologizing. But he isn't. You come at him with this and he's just going to pivot to talking about war being an atrocity and how dumping trillions into killing people abroad while our infrastructure crumbles at home etc etc etc. This attack just lets him go right into his stump speech and his opponents aren't going to pick it up because they know it would just be pointing out one of Bernie's strengths and highlighting their own weaknesses, which is the opposite of what they'll want to do. And if the other Dems aren't laying into him with it, it's going to wither away just like the latest O'Keefe video. Exactly. "Mr. Sanders, is it true that you said the Vietnam war was bad and we should have never been involved?" "You're drat right I did, and I'll say it again now. War is an atrocity in the first place, and Vietnam was worse than most."
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Feb 1, 2020 09:11
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Armack posted:This is complete bullshit and I hope someone from DMR or one of the campaigns that got an advance copy just leaks the drat thing. Not really anyone to leak it. DMR is a Gannett paper with almost no physical presence in DM anymore. They just reprint USA Today arts and the AP feed.
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Feb 2, 2020 03:51
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Spiffster posted:Don’t expect anything for a few hours. 9 est 8 cnt correct? We start the first round around 715. Probably 200 people at this caucus just for my precinct in my relatively small town. So far, Bernie and Pete have the biggest crowds.
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Feb 4, 2020 01:53
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oxsnard posted:They're not, this is dumb. Afaik the larger cities take longer to get people into the room. Rule is you have to be in line at 7pm. So people will be checking in for a while yet.
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Feb 4, 2020 01:57
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Skex posted:You are wrong, but it doesn't actually matter, the narrative is that she is a leftist, the perception is that she is a leftist so her support is leftist whether purists like you believe that she is or not is irrelevant. Her support is bad enough that there are more people here for Klobuchar.
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Feb 4, 2020 01:59
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4 people showed up for Steyer, and two are the precinct 'captains'.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:02
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TulliusCicero posted:Here's my thought: if Bernie wins Iowa and then New Hampshire, expect Barr and Guiliani to go into overtime looking for dirt (and making it up) They've been looking for six years and not finding anything that matters for even a single news cycle.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:04
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Guy in front of me in a 538 hoodie trying to throw shade.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:12
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Wastid posted:Bernie is far and away more represented here than anyone else....but I'm at a precinct right by Iowa State University. I think someone came in and put up a Biden sign then left. It's starting now here. Starting out here south of Des Moines too.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:16
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riseofmydick posted:But these are Bernie's strong spots. Caucuses elect delegates who vote at the county, district, and state conventions. State convention elects delegates to the DNC convention.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:19
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Last minute 1 dude showed up for Gabbard. Steyer's surrogate led his speech off with "I was a Republican in 2016..."
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Feb 4, 2020 02:22
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Biden's speaker -also- leads with 'I was a Republican who just registered Dem tonight.'
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Feb 4, 2020 02:29
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My brother in law says his precinct in Des Moines hit 33% Bernie in the first round. We haven't voted yet here.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:35
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Otteration posted:Barring an end result we don't know yet, if true Rural Iowa is coming around to the gays, at least. That would be very cool and good if it would happen faster.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:41
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I wouldn't hate myself for voting for Mayo Pete in the general, but it's not going to matter because Bernie is going to win the nomination.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:45
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Josh Lyman posted:Is Iowa unusually old? These entrance polls look bad, too many old people. Rural Iowa is. All the young people left to find jobs unless they inherited a farm and didn't sell.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:50
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1224510200293576704 Because as long as 'uncommited' does not have enough people to be a viable candidate in the first round they can play kingmaker if it is close.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:52
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237 people in my precinct. About to do round one preferences. Viability threshold is 36.
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Feb 4, 2020 02:53
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From an eyeball here, Tom and Uncle Joe aren't viable. Klobuchar and Yang might be. Sanders, Warren, and Pete for sure. Voting now.
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Feb 4, 2020 03:00
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48 for Sanders first round here. Realignment coming.
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Feb 4, 2020 03:11
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Liquid Communism posted:48 for Sanders first round here. Realignment coming. Tom, Yang, Bloom, Klob, Biden not viable.
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Feb 4, 2020 03:12
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LegionAreI posted:Is there a section for "gently caress you"? Like if Bernie isnt viable can you sit in the "gently caress you" section or do you have to pick one? You can leave and refuse to join a different group.
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Feb 4, 2020 03:15
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Biden group here just moved en masse to Mayo Pete's crew.
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Feb 4, 2020 03:23
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Kodo posted:I had heard the rumors that Bernie's ground game was still bad in Iowa and that a lot of fervor around Bernie has been ginned up by outsiders, and it will be truly LOL if he manages to not run away with this caucus, having demonstrated he learned nothing in the past four years, much like his ability to learn nothing new in his entire lifetime. gently caress off outta here with this hot take poo poo.
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Feb 4, 2020 03:47
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gandlethorpe posted:The gently caress is going on with Des Moines that so many are getting high high hopes for Butt? Des Moines is an insurance industry town.
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spunkshui posted:Quality control.... This is the first time we've had individual preference cards. 2016 it was just a headcount. They're checking the totals to make sure there isn't precinct level ratfuckery.
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Feb 4, 2020 04:07
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Yeah, as noted above, 2016 didn't have paper records or nearly the turnout. I'm still sitting in a high school gym at 9pm.
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Feb 4, 2020 04:11
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Lol. Biden choked harder than even I expected.
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Feb 4, 2020 04:13
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Ither posted:This caucus system is stupid. I'm sorry your attention span is set to Reality TV. Democracy takes a minute.
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King of Solomon posted:I mean, for what it's worth, per Nate Cohn they had like 80% reporting by this time in 2016. Whatever that quality control issue is, it's absolutely delaying the results getting posted. For the nth time, the actual process of caucusing is taking longer this year for several reasons. Chill.
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TURGID TOMFOOLERY posted:Explain the first-second-final thing to me like I’m a literal child please Sure! The Iowa Dem caucus runs in 3 rounds. First, everyone groups up by candidate and we count/fill out the preference form. Viability os determined by number of people present divided by number of convention delegates for the precinct (by population), and a candidate is considered viable if they have enough people to win at least one delegate. After this round, those who went with non-viable candidates can switch their vote, either joining a viable candidate or joining together to make one or more non-viable candidates viable. They then fill out the second form. Third is dividing the number of available delegates among the viable candidates according to their proportion of the vote. On a tie they flip a coin to award the delegate. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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alpha_destroy posted:Iowans, minus the ones here, are very dumb apparently. Pete? Who the hell likes Pete? Get it together Iowa Doesn't make sense to me either, but I'm a filthy democratic socialist.
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Pander posted:Why not eliminate delegates and go to raw vote totals? Because the purpose of a caucus is to elect delegates for the state and county conventions, which do much more party business than just the presidential election?
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