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Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005



The poll was taken by Center for the Political Future, which is a centrist/rightwing thinktank whose director is Mike Murphy, a former republican presidential hopeful. I'd take it with a grain of salt.

They also poll the exact same people they did back in October, saying they were trying to look for changes in peoples preference.

Ghetto SuperCzar fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jan 31, 2020

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Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


The caucus system is dumb as gently caress and I'm legit worried about realignment. I need a drink but I'm at work :-(

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Nonsense posted:

I should know what realignment means, but in the context of this primary and or general election, I'm a bit more clueless, what would realignment mean here?

If a candidate does not meet a threshold (i think its 15%) in a district, their voters are asked to move to a different candidate. My concern is the more moderate candidates voters failing that will likely pile onto Biden or Warren.

This isn't a thing in a lot of states and not a thing in the general election, just states that use the caucus system.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


kidkissinger posted:

everyone, please give bernie your energy


Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005



Its pretty hard to ratfuck a caucus tho, its pretty easy to count and I'm sure bernies got staff out there.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA4FTIz2Zrw

song owns

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


I think I give Pete a little more credit than most in this thread. Not in being a good human or candidate, but his route to the nomination has a higher chance of happening than most think. If all the Dem media darlings start shifting allegiances from Biden to Pete that is a lot of free press for him.

This primary is going to wreck my anxieties... Already calling out sick from work today (stayed up too late hoping they'd unfuck themselves).

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


DreamingofRoses posted:

I said that after I was accused of not being a Bernie supporter. If that’s my gimmick what’s yours?

Thread definitely has a bias and is a little unwelcoming and that kinda sucks for some folks.

But, you're whole posting history in here is arguing with people, and it started with you taking random shots at people saying pro bernie things. Chill and :protarget:

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


DreamingofRoses posted:

Yeah, I’m still wound up from the gun control thread, I think. Given that this isn’t actually a primary thread, I’ll dip. Y’all have fun.

Everyone is wound up, no worries. This election means a lot to all of us, and its triggering emotions from 2016 primary and 2016 general. Anxiety inducing.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


lol yeah this is real believable.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


So let me get this straight.
Bernie won Popular vote
Buttegieg won SDEs
Both get the same # of delegates?

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


goethe.cx posted:

nobody's "won" anything, we still have 40% of the results out there in the ether

I know, but just for arguments sake the 62% trend continues. Or maybe Bernie even gains a bit more. It still kinda looks like itll be close enough they'll both walk away with the same amount of primary delegates.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Rigel posted:

At this point, Bloomberg is one of the most terrifying people in the election. Right now, he does not have ballot access and hopefully he stays the gently caress out after he inevitably loses the Dem primary, but he still has the ability to play spoiler, spend a crapton of money, and get into a lot of states as independent spoiler. Its why Trump has recently been talking him up and saying he'd love to run against Bloomberg.

I'm really hoping this is merely a cynical publicity bid to get his name ID up for whatever the gently caress reason before he bows out.

He can spend spend spend but his core demo will remain low info voters, and those don't usually vote in primaries.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Groovelord Neato posted:

So he won. We've known that for days!

If by winning you mean delegates they both got 10. If by winning you mean popular vote, Bernie won. If you mean SDEs for some stupid reason, Mayo Pete won.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Smiling Jack posted:

did you seriously just try and shame someone for donating the max

i'm guessing it was sarcasm but i forgot sarcasm was dead

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Premature Pete should probably walk back his victory speech again.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Halloween Jack posted:

I went to bed like a normal person. Am I still a moonbat for thinking this was a massive ratfuck?

Probably not at this point. Maybe if Pete kept his lead but having Sanders catch up in the last bits is pretty suspect.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Office Pig posted:

Just for posterity, and because there's a hope in hell of saving the faithful
https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1105168289540517888

fantastic, someone post that on his subreddit

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Grouchio posted:

My father is optimistic for Bernie but he's concerned that he'd lose after nomination because he wouldn't be 1) swinging voters away from Trump, and 2) be tainted with the Socialist brand.

How can I convince him otherwise?

Republicans have cried wolf about everyone being a socialist so its not like it'll be any different. No one is swinging away any voters from Trump, they're a cult. Its going to be about getting non-voters involved and Bernie has the best staff to handle that.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Trabisnikof posted:

This is the exact kind of rigging that people were saying would be impossible but yet here we are:

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1225602370702389249

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1225603454296633344



But sure, these are just ooopies doopies that are totally just accidents and never ever malice.

I think when people were suggesting you can't rig a caucus they were doing so under the guise of it being impossible to cover up. And oh boy, they are having a hard time covering it up.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


I have to be honest, I've been voting for the lesser of 2 evils for almost 2 decades now and I'm not really seeing the slow and steady improvements that get touted as the reason to do that. For every issue that they band-aid, increasing income inequality/destruction of unions/environmental issues getting kicked WAY down the road for future generations to deal with/stagnant wage growth just outpaces incremental improvements. I feel like I can confidently say that while we've improved some severe injustices, we've just thrown the victims into a class system that is getting worse by the year.

I really don't want to be Bernie or bust, but moderate after moderate hasn't fixed the system, they've just attempted to preserve it.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


I had to bust out the photoshop please forgive me

https://twitter.com/waynearchetype/status/1225925662046711808

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005



oh god i'm so bad at this

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Rats are loving adorable amazing creatures I just don't want a lovely rat to be the first rat president.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Wait even Pete's military service gets an asterisk? Lol

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Griffen posted:

This is what people mean about trying to have a wider tent. Here I am, voting the way you want, trying to come up with a compromise that can appeal to as many as possible without infringing on anyone (since I'm not calling for banning abortion, in case you missed it), and all you can do is spew hate. What does that say about you and your ability to build a coalition of diverse perspectives?

Are the posts you are quoting what you consider spewing hate?
Like, this is what is happening on twitter right now. "People made fun of what I said, or called me wrong, or posted a meme, or didn't speak 100% non-offensively = hate speech bernie nazis"

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


SchrodingersCat posted:


What I love about Bernie is that he really wants to have these discussions instead of just touting party lines to make people fight each other. Except for the billionaire issue. They should all hang.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/new-hampshire-democratic-debate-2020/card/1581130161

That is an interesting interpretation on an issue he has been very very clear on.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Griffen posted:

No, it isn't. I vote on a weighted sum of all my issues, and Bernie fits most of them, though not all.

You're welcome to stay and :justpost:. It is cool that you aren't a single issue voter, as most people I know that are adamantly pro life claim to be. I do kind of wonder what you thought was going to happen bringing up abortion in a thread where the parties stance is overwhelmingly pro-choice, even the moderates. I also don't think anyone was particularly hateful to you about it, and it kind of seemed like that was your expectation given your reaction.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005



Big Darude SanderStorm energy

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Peacoffee posted:

A very charitable view of Warren, all things considered

Yeah, I'd love to live in that reality but I think it requires memorying holing the whole "Bernie did a sexist" thing she leaked to CNN.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Cpt_Obvious posted:

Has anyone posted the Warren official on Rising? This really looks like she's gonna shank Bernie. Again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0DsaIVv9cU&t=301s

At work and cant watch, can you summarize?

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005



I have a credible fear of being told I have a bad take by strangers on the internet.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


the medias need to deep dive into twitter replies to help frame a narrative isn't super surprising but it sure is depressing.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


oxsnard posted:

CNN Declaring that Bernie is the new frontrunner is a big loving deal, no matter how much CNN sucks

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/politics/bernie-sanders-pete-buttigieg-2020-race/index.html

Bend the loving knee!

Also regarding "bernie bros telling people to KYS" chat. Some lady sent me a DM log with the names blurred out of it happening and I spent 30 seconds of googling and 30 seconds of typing and made a log of her declaring undying support for sanders. Don't believe random screencaps you cant verify or accounts with no posting history saying awful poo poo.

Ghetto SuperCzar fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Feb 13, 2020

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


Badactura posted:

Someone upset that the WFP endorsed Warren over Bernie I guess

Here's a link to the screenshot, sorry it's in Time:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5681261/working-families-party-harassment/%3famp=true

Screenshots of an account without even a profile picture are loving dubious AT BEST. This line of attack is apparently the only one that is actually working for them, and it takes less than 5 minutes to make an account and send an angry tweet to paint the picture they want people to see.

If you ever catch a bernie supporter saying biggoted poo poo, or telling people to kill themselves, please loving name and shame because that poo poo isn't tolerated. That _all_ of the complaints about it i've seen are unverifiable BUT TRUST US IT HAPPENED isn't super surprising.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


HD DAD posted:

This is actually a great thing.

If this helps float Bidens corpse then lol thats a good thing

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


DreamingofRoses posted:

Oh cool, I’ll just change my primary vote, shall I? I’m in SC, so voting for Biden shouldn’t be a problem

You been trolling this whole thread with half your posts and are wondering why people are shouting you down.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


DreamingofRoses posted:

I apologize if I come off as disingenuous, that was meant to be sarcasm.

I mean I agree with you that the thread is too unwelcoming but you 100% brought any aggro on yourself based on your comment history here. You were looking for fights.

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


kidkissinger posted:

https://twitter.com/TomSteyer/status/1228007160195383296

out of the gulag and up against the wall as they say

I see Tom is in the negging phase of his chase of Bernie.

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Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


mcmagic posted:

That poll is bullshit. Bernie is by far the most popular candidate with Latinos. There is no way he's only at 10% in florida.

My interactions with Cuban expats on politics is usually very surprising and they generally have distrust of things labeled as socialist (they buy into right wing propaganda calling it communist). You can point out the awful racism of the other guys but they'll still tell you why they fled Castro.

Florida has the highest population of Cuban expats so I'm not super surprised.

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