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feedmegin posted:How so? 'Anarcho-monarchism' has been a description I've seen.
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Sir DonkeyPunch posted:Dare you enter... THE ATONEMENT SPHERE?! wait this is just a rebranded punishment sphere fucicking belueverxxefbn
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Ghost Leviathan posted:'Anarcho-monarchism' has been a description I've seen. Yeah, that's probably the most succinct way to put it and pretty close to how he described himself, "unconstitutional Monarchy" with no state*. It's pretty weird stuff to read, though it follows somewhat consistently from his rather extreme Catholic religious stance. I don't really know why having weird politics would help with world building, it's just that I noticed the two guys I most associate with "world building that keeps the readers up at night for years" both had some really crazy notions about how the world should work. *https://time.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/the_letters_of_j.rrtolkien.pdf Letter 52 is the big one.
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I'd guess that if you didn't have a crazy notion as to how the world should work then you probably wouldn't go super hard into world building.
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I haven't dug into tolkien's views on government besides the linked letter, but I have to imagine being a veteran of WWI and living through WWII could sour someone on the concept of 'statehood'.
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All I really remember about Tolkien's politics is that he didn't like the Nazis but also had the historical and linguistic knowledge to specifically hate the nazi concept of "aryan" since that was entirely bullshit and made up, which is not the top of the list of most people's criticism of the nazis, but it's valid.Tolkien posted:25 July 1938 20 Northmoor Road, Oxford
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SlothfulCobra posted:All I really remember about Tolkien's politics is that he didn't like the Nazis but also had the historical and linguistic knowledge to specifically hate the nazi concept of "aryan" since that was entirely bullshit and made up, which is not the top of the list of most people's criticism of the nazis, but it's valid. Unfortunately he sent both that and a blander letter to his publisher, leaving it up to them to choose which to send across the Channel in response. They decided on the latter.
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Linux Pirate posted:I'm going to be the Jodorowsky guy After watching the movie about Jodorowsky's version, I'd say that it would resemble Dune as much as the Starship Troopers movie matched Heinlein's book - especially his politics. It would be wild cool, but you might as well give it a new name.
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So what do we think of DUNC?
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Hillary 2024 posted:So what do we think of DUNC? If Villaneuve wanted to make a Dune that was accessible to non-book readers, I have to think he still hasn't done that. I can't think someone who has no idea about the story is going to come into this and come away with anything but enjoying the pretty pictures. (And they are pretty.) The production and mechanical design are top-notch and remind me of nothing so much as the Traveller RPG, which I mean no duh, it drew heavily from Dune in the first place.
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I think he did a pretty good job of communicating in broad (and some finer) strokes of what the stakes were, who the atreides and harkonnens are. More about the Imperium will come, but wasn’t critical here (similar to how the book structures it) I enjoyed it a lot
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Yeah it seemed p understandable and dumped the necessary background info in an engaging way, I liked it a lot https://twitter.com/fellawhomstdve/status/1451910939637395461
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The Fremen have suicide commandos so why not have one guy fire a lasgun at the Carthag shields?
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Baron Porkface posted:The Fremen have suicide commandos so why not have one guy fire a lasgun at the Carthag shields? It's like they never even played the boardgame version!
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Baron Porkface posted:The Fremen have suicide commandos so why not have one guy fire a lasgun at the Carthag shields? Fremen don't use lasguns IIRC, or shields. Shields because it attracts worms and sends them into a berserk frenzy; lasguns I don't think it explains. But, in the book, Duncan actually rigs up exactly such a thing as a self-standing trap for the Harkonnnen/Sardaukar troops following them in the process of helping Jessica and Paul escape.
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Fuschia tude posted:Fremen don't use lasguns IIRC, or shields. Shields because it attracts worms and sends them into a berserk frenzy; lasguns I don't think it explains. Baron Porkface posted:The Fremen have suicide commandos so why not have one guy fire a lasgun at the Carthag shields? They'd only have to capture one lasgun and set it up to fire on a timer or tie a really long piece of string to the trigger. Would make the shield wall a liability instead of a defense.
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Im unclear if “shield wall” refers to the location of the strategic shield or the mountians that shield Arakeen from storms and worms, I thought it was the latter.
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Baron Porkface posted:Im unclear if “shield wall” refers to the location of the strategic shield or the mountians that shield Arakeen from storms and worms, I thought it was the latter. It is, in the novel. This movie seemed to suggest it was a manmade thing though, which kind of wrecks the ending.
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Dune 2 announced https://twitter.com/Legendary/status/1453058884516466691?s=20
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Why does Mohaim have a hateboner for Paul in book 2? Isn't he the phallic demigod the BG always yearned to worship? Is Fenring a mentat outside of KJA books? Is Leto's dad a bullfigher outside of the KJA books and new movie?
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Like one of the earliest scenes on Arrakis is them explaining to the new palace staff about the head of the bull that killed Leto's dad.
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Baron Porkface posted:Why does Mohaim have a hateboner for Paul in book 2? Isn't he the phallic demigod the BG always yearned to worship? They never planned to worship him, the plan was for him to be created by the BG and under their control. So a tame god, and they hate Paul because he's not only outside their control but actively undermining their control of the political system Baron Porkface posted:Is Leto's dad a bullfigher outside of the KJA books and new movie? Yeah, it's one of my favorite side-bits of the book and KJA hosed it up like everything he touches. In the original it's mentioned that the old duke died in the ring, and it's one of the points of disconnect between a really archaic tradition and the far-future setting that Frank did really well. KJA made it some kind of hosed up spider bull or something because he doesn't understand what's interesting in the original.
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I've read Dune twice (really great) and Messiah once ('sok) and I have no desire to read further. Haven't seen DUNC yet but I'll get around to it. Anyways what's it gonna take to get the old Dune games on GOG
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bees x1000 posted:I've read Dune twice (really great) and Messiah once ('sok) and I have no desire to read further. Haven't seen DUNC yet but I'll get around to it. I'd recommend finishing the series via the Sci-Fi channel miniseries of the sequels, titled Children of Dune (containing books 2+3). It is surprisingly good good, since Alec Newman, who plays Paul, is finally properly playing his apparent age of like mid 30s (Messiah is like 12 years after, right?) EDIT - Holy poo poo Alec Newman was only 26 in the original Miniseries. He looked like 36! Crazy. The CGI isn't as trash as the first miniseries of the first book, even if they don't do the neat black-light contacts look of the Spice eyes anymore, as I am sure that was a fukken pain to act through. Alice Krige plays an excellent post-Water o' Life Jessica, Ian McNeice is the best Baron, Daniela Amavia was a total smokeshow as Alia, and the series has a very young James McAvoy. I doubt we'll ever get any other adaptions of those books, so it's the best we got for a long while.
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I'm not gonna watch DUNC until it's free on demand because I'm a cheap bastard. How much of Jason Momoa's  is in the movie? I've heard there's a lot of
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zoux posted:A "proper" Dune movie is forthcoming. And it's going to utterly bomb Well, you were half-right. 
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nine-gear crow posted:I'm not gonna watch DUNC until it's free on demand because I'm a cheap bastard. How much of Jason Momoa's Not enough, because the producers are cowards.
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Cerv posted:it's PG. what do you expect? Apparently too much 
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I thought this movie was boring imo
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Cerv posted:it's PG. what do you expect? They're still cowards.
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Is there a legit place to watch the 2000s mini series?
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banned from Starbucks posted:Is there a legit place to watch the 2000s mini series? I think it's all up on YouTube, to be honest.
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Yea just Youtube it, I don't think there's any streaming service carrying it so options are buying the DVD or Youtube.
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i thought mamoa looked terrible. i havent seen him in anything in a while and im surprised how chubby he looked. maybe oscar issac looking like a statue was just making everyone look bad. mamoa as duncan was cool though. i like that mamoa is always just kind of playing himself. the "i have never come so close to dying" did not seem like an authentic duncan line. just jason saying what he would say
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Is there consistency to what factions call it Arrakis or Dune?
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Not really, it's just up to how formal you want to sound. Dune is the colloquial or slang name, so it's used more by people living there and not in official documents, but that's about the only hard rule.
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The cool kids call it Rakkis
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Arrakis is called Jakku in some material The sound design was so excellent, the special effects and so forth were great, story was no worse than expected, but why oh does every shot of a person gotta be a close up and never like a setup with a room with stuff in it. Let's look at the set! I also read about 180? pages of the book this summer which turned out to be the right amount. I understood dynamics but was surprised at some point. But what a crappy ending!
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