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Welcome, everyone, to season 40 of Survivor! The show that will never die or possibly will die very soon or is possibly already dead just like me. Survivor airs Wednesday, February 12th on CBS! Check your local listings.  PAY ATTENTION TO THIS: This season is an ALL “STAR” season that includes ONLY WINNERS!!!! I cannot possibly emphasize enough that if you do not wish to be spoiled on at least 20 previous seasons DO NOT GO ANY FURTHER. The rules of this thread, since this is a bit of a funky season that will definitely have some spoiler territory for newer fans:
Now for all of the boiler plate poo poo for new viewers in case you’ve been living under a rock for the past 20 years. What is Survivor? Survivor is a reality show where a group of 16 to 20 or so contestants, from all walks of life, are stuck on a remote paradise and forced to live together for 39 days; gathering their own food, building their own shelter, and purifying their own water. The cast is split into opposing, equal teams, called tribes. The tribes must work together to form a community, in the hopes of one contestant becoming the Sole Survivor and winning one million dollars. At least one contestant is voted off every episode. A typical Survivor season has three phases. Pre-Merge, Post-Merge, and Endgame.
This Season’s Gimmick It wouldn’t be Survivor without something dumb that we all hate, so of course Edge of Extinction is back!  For those unfamiliar, Edge of Extinction answers the question of “How can you win Survivor without playing Survivor?” It’s universally been considered to be a bad idea for dumb idiots and the winner spawned from it (season 38) led to that season being the wettest fart this side of God Friended Me. Anyway, it’s back now because  and there’s also something about Fire Tokens, which are new and afaik they’re kinda like garnets from The Genius, except you trade them for idols or tacos instead of cash.Oh yeah, they also get $2,000,000 if they win which is cool that Survivor is trying to catch up with inflation. Hopefully this trend continues and isn’t just for the winners season. Supplemental Material
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Okay so enough of that, let’s get to the good stuff. Next post will have the cast so this is your last chance to not be spoiled!
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The Cast: This season, they didn’t release a mass cast photo for some reason (or I can’t find it). Once they do I can stick it here I guess, or not. Meanwhile, here is our commander in chief moments after someone told him that they hoped a woman wins this season.   Ethan Zohn – Winner, Survivor Africa   ”This water could use more elephant poo poo.” Ethan is our earliest winner, who has never played modern Survivor and it remains to be seen if he even understands how the game works these days. Most famous for beating cancer after his Survivor win and being just a nice guy. In his bio he really leans into being an old dude because he references pinball, VHS tapes, and uses the phrase “to the max”. Sandra Diaz-Twine – Winner, Survivor Pearl Islands AND Winner, Survivor Heroes vs. Villains   ”This time, I’ve been practicing my army crawl so I’m sure to win.” Sandra has been on Survivor a ton, including most recently on redacted, last season did not happen and is our only person ever to win twice (for now). She is the loving poo poo and is indisputably one of the funniest players and best trash-talkers out there. She answered a question on her bio with “Yup”, which I know all of you just read in her accent. Amber Mariano – Winner, Survivor All-Stars   ”Oh my Goddddddddd I’m so good at Survivorrrrrrrr” Ambuh is more famous for marrying Boston Rob than for winning the first ever Survivor All Star season. Many argue that she didn’t win, but Rob really just lost it – however none of that matters because they got engaged at the finale and so I guess Rob still won, or something. She’s weirdly a dark-horse candidate to win since most of her threat level is tied up in Rob, who will assuredly not make it far. There’s not much to say about her, because she’s the most boring winner out here. Even her bio reads like she’s applying for a job. A job where you write LOL! In your resume. Danni Boatwright – Winner, Survivor Guatemala   ”I didn’t hike 11 miles through a Guatemalan jungle to deal with your Ay Dee Dee” Danni won one of the best seasons of Survivor we’ve had (fight me). Guatemala had a ton of fun characters, which sadly Danni was not one of, but she made up for it in the end by beating the world’s most hateable player, Stephanie Lagrossa. Yet another candidate to do well, since she played a pretty quiet, but effective game her first time and doesn’t have a playbook about her like many of our other winners. She has a weird obsession with Kansas City and may get under water quickly with a lot of these serious gamers, leading to her being a no-vote finalist. She could also win. I don’t know, Danni is an enigma. Yul Kwon – Winner, Survivor Cook Islands   ”Well, actually…” Yul was the first winner to ride the super idol (aka Tyler Perry Idol) to victory. Many consider his win dominant, but he only beat challenge beast and amateur pornographer Ozzie by 1 vote. He worked for Obama and he worked for Facebook, so he may be a hero or he may be the devil I can’t figure this out what is happening? His original season was Survivor: Racism Edition which was really weird and doesn’t hold up at all, but it spawned a lot of great and famous players like Sekou. Yul is really smart and diplomatic, and everyone knows it, so he could be a key ally for many people. In his bio he mentions that he’s a germophobe so he’s probably going to love making GBS threads in the ocean. Parvati Shallow – Winner, Survivor Fans vs. Favorites   ”One time I met a man in the Atlanta airport who had two prosthetic legs. That blew my mind.” Parvati is a Stephanie Lagrossa fan according to her bio and I can’t really look past that. However, I will persevere. She’s often considered to have the “best” win because she aggressively manipulated and charmed the cast of FvF on the road to a dominant win, and nearly a second in HvV by manipulating part-time hobbit and full-time shitdump Russell Hantz into being her shield. She’s going to have a HUGE target on her, possibly one of the biggest outside of Tony, and seems to know that. Hopefully she can work a new angle now that she’s a parent and get ingratiated with a group, because she does make drat good TV. She’s also married to John Fincher from Survivor Samoa, who was duped and voted out by the aforementioned Russell Hantz. Rob Mariano – Winner, Survivor Redem(*softly gags*)ption Island   ”All of my daughters have the same middle name. No I’m not psychotic why do you ask?” Rob is famous for not having the top of his head, instead he has a Boston Red Sox cap stitched into his skull, which has earned him the very creative nickname “Boston Rob”. This season marks his 893rd time playing Survivor, and it only took him 892 times to win! Every time you say his name, Jeff Probst gets a boner, and he literally wrote a book about how to win Survivor (in 4 tries). He was also on the Amazing race twice and had a reality show about him and Ambuh getting married called “Rob and Amber Get Married”. All that said, Rob is a tour de force if he can get a foothold in the tribe, which is incredibly unlikely with this bunch. He was an “Idol” on the season-which-must-not-be-named, and gave advice to all of the players who lost, and none to the one who won so that probably helped his book sales. He also famously barfed on tv.  Big Taint posted:“I’m pretty over Boston Rob.” Sophie Clarke – Winner, Survivor South Pacific   ”HAHAHA OH MY GOD GUYS JACK AND JILL HAHAHA OH MY GOD YOU’VE GOTTA SEE IT HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA” People around here like Sophie, I think. She’s the people’s champion in that she is smart while also hating everything. She played with Coach  during Survivor: Church Edition and was a bit of an out-of-nowhere winner who ultimately ended up being really satisfying. She famously won a “reward” challenge to go watch the new hit movie Jack and Jill (3% on Rotten Tomatoes) and while the sycophantic tribemates laughed at the…uh…jokes? she didn’t and is our hero for doing so. She has the most coherent bio and actually sounds like she’s read a book before so she’s many people’s favorite to win. I have her in my top 3 winner picks, personally, and can’t see any reason why should won’t do well. I will not edit this after she’s booted first.Kim Spradlin – Winner, Survivor One World   ”I’m here to cash checks and be un-entertaining, and I’m all out of checks.” A lot of people consider Kim’s win to be the most dominant win, which is weird because her season consisted of her, a racist guy, and 16 bowling pins. One World sucked, there’s no way around that. Kim was incredibly dominant but among a group of players she’s going to have to turn her charm up to 1000. She’s incredibly charming, however, and is no slouch in challenges, so she can be a very important player for whatever alliance she finds herself a part of. In her bio she mentions that she started watching in 2001, and also mentions that she watched from the beginning so  I’m going to have to nitpick your details here a bit. Denise Stapley – Winner, Survivor Phillipines   ”I know I’m not J.K. Simmons but I mean c’mon, right?” Denise is notorious for being the only winner to attend EVERY tribal in her season. A part of the now infamous Matsing tribe that got worn down to just 2 players (who both ended up making the final 4, oddly), she’s had a ton of practice dealing with the stressors that come with tribal. Her original season is one that gets a bit buried due to a cast member who made the finals later getting arrested for being an utter piece of poo poo. She’s also a therapist so she’s got the mind to overcome the bullshit Survivor throws at you. Denise is our oldest cast member, which may put a target on her for challenge usage, but she’s fit as hell and can hold her own. Her bio mentions that her strategy is to adapt, so if she can just get her entire tribe decimated again then she’s got this. Tyson Apostol – Winner, Survivor Blood vs. Water   SweetJahasus Note: I’m not putting a quote here because no made up quote can do Tyson’s actual quotes justice I won’t pull my punch here, Tyson is my favorite. He’s who I want to win, even though I don’t see him winning. He’s played 3 times before, twice with Actual Crazy Person Coach Ben Wade, so the fact that he’s not in a strait jacket babbling in a corner is pretty impressive. Tyson is a staple on RHAP, and is a constant gold mine of quotes. In BvW he played with his now wife, who was voted off early, which led to him rampaging through the game in order to avenge her. Tyson would openly talk poo poo to jurors on their way out:  He’s got an uphill battle this season because it’s tough to decide which players would want to align with chaotic evil, and I think Tyson wants to take big swings which has bitten him in the past. I still must believe that he will win though, even though it may take some black magic.  Tony Vlachos – Winner, Survivor Cagayan   ”bbbblbllbublbuublublububuluullblllbllblubllbluublblblblblblllblllbllbl” If Tyson is chaotic evil, Tony is chaotic neutral. Tony actually upends the alignment chart and is just chaotic chaos. On his original season he had the benefit of the second incarnation of the super (Tyler Perry) idol, which much like Yul he never even had to play. I think that even without that idol, he’d have won, because he played the ultimate scramble game that mixed idols, alliance flipping, and tight allies to great effect. He got really lucky in the final 3, because dumb money hater Woo chose Tony to join him in the finals over the universally despised Kass, but it’s a credit to Tony for convincing Woo to take a $900k pay cut. Per his bio, his only hobby is spending as much time as possible with his family which explains the two month family-less vacation he’s taking while he’s probably the first person voted out. Natalie Anderson – Winner, Survivor San Juan del Sur   ”COME ON TWINNIE COME ON” Natalie is the second blood vs water champ, with a similar story to Tyson. Her twin sister was the first boot and she used that to fuel her to a victory that was really very impressive and on the back of a super risky idol play and blindside late-game. She’s probably most famous, however, for her time on the Amazing Race (before Survivor) with her TWINNIE. I actively hated them on that season and still do, to some extent, despite how much I liked her on Survivor. She’s another one of my top 3 to win this season as she’s got a built in super-ally of a great player in Jeremy and she won the game at a middle season so she’s not too recent in memory and isn’t a “legend”. Her bio mentions that she’s relying on luck this season so…gently caress. Jeremy Collins – Winner, Survivor Second Chance   ”This season I will be referred to as Boston Jeremy.” Jeremy is another one of those winners that people love, which is why he’s my 3rd top winner pick. He’s got a long road ahead of him, because he mounted a very dominant win in his second time out and is considered to be one of the ultimate social threats. The upside to being a social threat is that you’re socially competent and can build an alliance around you, which Jeremy is very capable of doing alongside his SJDS ally Natalie. In his bio he mentions that he used to take notes every episode he’d watch which yeesh…buddy…I know I’m doing a lengthy OP on a Survivor nerd forum but drat. Michele Fitzgerald – Winner, Survivor Koah Rong   ”I got this new tattoo and I intend for everyone to see it MOM.” Michele is right there alongside Ambuh for the most questionable winner in this cast, but IMO Michele ended up playing a pretty good game upon re-assessment. She caught a lot of poo poo for being invisible for the first half of the game, which was symptomatic of having some very alpha lunatics on that season that dominated some camera time (also fan favorite Tai). She had some late clutch immunities and a solid social game to go alongside it, but a quite bitter jury helped propel her to the win over other fan favorite Aubrey (who poo poo the bed in final tribal). I like her odds this season because everyone out there probably doesn’t know who she is so she can be window dressing until merge and then come forward to do well again. Adam Klein – Winner, Survivor Millennials vs. Gen X   ”Here, wait, take the picture again I’m gonna act tough.” Adam is our super fan. He’s the one who coined the stupid term super duper fan, and he cried a lot (for a good reason, but it’s the main thing I remember him for). He had a quite tragic story about his mom, who passed away shortly after his original season, and Adam seems like a likeable kid, but is also kind of a rat. He did a lot of waffling between groups on his original season, which worked well for him, but the super fan schtick likely won’t go over well with this bunch. I see him being an early target. He is a “keynote speaker” now which is weird because he’s basically 4 years old and has no life experience but okay I guess. Sarah Lacina – Winner, Survivor Game Changers   ”I beat all these idiots and this bigot ipso facto I’m good at Survivor” Sarah is our most recent female winner which is pretty loving insane because not only is she bad at Survivor but also that means we’ve had 5 straight seasons of male winners. I truthfully don’t know how Sarah won. People from her season say she was likeable but that didn’t really come through on the screen, since all of her confessionals sound like she’s a serial killer explaining how she’s getting away with a crime. She was part of a season that’s looked down upon pretty often because of a very very very uncool incident between bigot dummy Jeff Varner and fan favorite cool dude Zeke. On her bio she lists 19 pet peeves which definitely helps me see how you were so liked in your last season  Ben Driebergen – Winner, Survivor Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlersgently caress this name   ”As you can see from this hat, I’m a boy. A cow boy.” Ben is a controversial winner because he spent about half of the game in the crosshairs of the entire cast, only to find idol after idol after idol and save himself, famously with his “Ben Bombs”. Is now a time I can talk about how he had a segment discussing his PTSD over IEDs while simultaneously “dropping bombs” on people and celebrating it – I dunno….that always stuck in my craw. Ben was also the winner of the season that introduced the final 4 fire making challenge, which came with a poo poo ton of controversy blaming production of rigging the game for him. I don’t buy into the rigging, but I was sad to see fan favorite Devin fall victim to this 11th hour twist. Make no mistake, Ben will be a huge target because people don’t want to keep folks around who root out idols often. His middle name is Russell so draw your own conclusions about what witchcraft Russells have. Wendell Holland – Winner, Survivor Ghost Island   ”Put the mic down. Put the pen down. Use an eraser.” Wendell won the closest vote in Survivor history which resulted in a final tribal TIE, with the deciding vote being the zero-vote finalist. On his original season he had the benefit of only needing to be ½ of a good Survivor player, as he had his best bud Dom there to pick up the slack where he fell off. Fortunately for him, the other finalist was someone who he was closer to, which won him the vote, even though Dom played an amazing game as well. Wendell is a social dynamo and everyone knows it, so he’s going to have to turn the charm up a little extra to get people under his spell this time. He has recency bias going against him, but if he can ingratiate himself again then he’s got the social chops to ride that pretty far. His bio is pretty boring, but did make me take notice of how many peoples’ inspiration is their parents. Let’s be honest here guy, your parents aren’t that great – shoot higher. Nick Wilson – Winner, Survivor David vs. Goliath   ”I will be insulted if I don’t get votes this time!” Nick is our most recent winner in the cast, and is the most recent winner who actually played Survivor for 39 days this cast saw before going out there. He’s got a pretty steep hill to climb if he wants to win, as he hasn’t been in the “community” enough to have a lot of pre-game alliances and friendships, and his entire charming shtick from his first season is exposed. I think Nick may have the worst chances of anyone outside of Tony, sadly. He did orchestrate one of the coolest moves ever at a tribal though, which was a minority vote split (that succeeded!). He has listed his inspiration in life as Sandra, which is incredibly cool. He is also incredibly cocky in his bio which definitely bodes well for the guy with little to no pre-game relationships. Okay that’s it, premiere is Feb. 12th so I guess everyone post about who you love or hate or how bad my OP is I don’t care. Just remember the #1 rule of Survivor: 
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Sand Monster posted:I've never really listened outside of maybe an episode or two years ago. Are there any past episodes or interviewees that are particularly interesting or insightful? Every week after the episode airs he does something with Stephen Fishbach (of S18 fame) called the Know-It-Alls which I find to be the best of their shows since it's pretty succinct and they have decent takes on stuff.
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Feb 3, 2020 19:56
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I think all of y'all are underestimating the impact that pre-game alliances are going to have on this season. I'm cold on Kim not because she's seen as a threat, but because she's not a part of the "community" and surely doesn't have the relationships with the necessary people. There are a lot of poker players on this cast...that is important. They are all friends. There are a lot of people who have played previous all-star seasons together and have a rapport. That is important. They're all threats, in their own way (except Amber) so they should all be wary of everyone. IMO it's going to come down to who has been in each other's DMs enough to be connected to the most people. If I had to guess, I'd say that the power rankings for that quality would be: A Tier: Rob, Wendell, Adam, Tyson, Jeremy, Parvati B Tier: Sandra, Tony, Natalie, Sophie C Tier: Ethan, Nick, Ben, Sarah, Kim, Michele D Tier: Amber, Danni, Yul, Denise
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IcePhoenix posted:I just read the bio post (it's very good) and am curious: why does everyone think Tony has like a negative chance to make it very far? Does everyone just hate him or something? I don't follow stuff that happens outside the game really. Thanks  For Tony it's mostly like this.Imagine your job is to hold a fish and if you hold the fish for 39 days you win $2M. Would you rather hold a dead goldfish (Amber) or a 180 pound pissed off wahoo?
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Feb 4, 2020 17:22
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JesusSinfulHands posted:She literally played poker with Rob, Tyson, and Jeremy . Gonna be honest with you, I didn't know this. Thanks for catching that. Definitely improves her chances by a ton IMO.
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Feb 5, 2020 15:21
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curiousCat posted:Also it's worth nothing that Amber and Parv both said they want Sandra gone lol I really truly hope that these people all learned from the Second Chances season in that the "characters" need to gang up and join forces so they're all not voted out immediately. Otherwise we're going to get a final group of like....Amber, Michele, Adam, Danni, and Sarah. That would definitely be what kills Survivor. If we had a final 5 of, for instance, Rob, Tyson, Parvati, Jeremy, and Sandra how awesome would that be? CBS would buy in another 40 seasons.
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Feb 5, 2020 17:50
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Binary Logic posted:There's been a lot of anti-Edge of Extinction talk but there could be compelling dramatic tension there, with so many big personalities playing. I firmly disagree. EoE is a flawed mechanic to where all of the people who are there have ZERO reason to do all of the politicking with each other, because they know that it's just going to be a case of one person gets to go back, and that person is someone we've gotten to bond with (outside of the immense social pressures of the game). There are no stakes to EoE. If they had to vote people out of EoE it'd be different, because they'd have to still play the game, but as we saw from s38, it's really just all friendship happy hour and the opposite of dramatic tension.
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Feb 6, 2020 15:17
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Invalid Validation posted:Yea making them do a EoE tribal would be good. Or, and this may be a weird and unorthodox idea, don't have EoE at all and once you're out you're out? Call me crazy but.... (Also, another plug for AUS Survivor - it's already soooooo good. I'm not even caught up yet but drat this seasons is amazing already)
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Feb 6, 2020 15:34
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Yeah AUS is flat out better these days. Even down to JLP being a better host. He's a bit janky when he tries to mimmick Probst tho, I wish he'd commit to his own gags.
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Feb 8, 2020 01:54
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Murmur Twin posted:I’m gonna go with 
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Feb 8, 2020 13:40
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A season wherein the losing finalist villain (Sash) was less likable than the girl who quit and wanted to vote someone off BECAUSE SHE LOST A LEG
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Feb 11, 2020 04:33
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:US Survivor needs to take the team endurance immunity challenges from Australian Survivor. They pretty much always turn into fun challenges to watch. Lydia beasting right there is so badass. What US Survivor needs is David Genat.
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Feb 12, 2020 15:52
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bagrada posted:A coworker and I are rooting for Ethan but he probably won't make it too far in this environment. He did remind me I want to rewatch Africa, Australia and China because I wish they'd move around Survivor more to shake things up. I'm surprised they haven't just built an island at a lot in LA at this point. You mean you guys don't want the two amazing non-Fiji seasons of Gabon and Nicaragua?!?
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Feb 12, 2020 21:31
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AWESOME episode - I really hate that Nat went out first though I do get why she was targeted. It's definitely harder to see votes go down when you like most of the cast.Aerox posted:- Shocked and thrilled to have the two of the least deserving people on this season gone back to back. Perfect boots for quality of TV. I'm confused what world you're living in if you thought Natalie was one of the least deserving, since she played one of the best come-from-behind games of really anyone on the cast. Not sure how she's less deserving than like Michele, Ben, Sarah, Adam, or Nick. STAC Goat posted:And I loving love that Yul looks like he's adapting to "new school" real quick. I thought he would since he was a smart, strategic guy but its hard to know with how long its been and that super idol he had. Yul impressed me a ton, and I was in no way ready for how prepared he was. I figured he'd be a fish out of water strategically, much like Ethan seems to be (though Ethan adapted very well IMO). Yul did the pre-game research enough to know about that poker quote that they showed, which shows that he prepared a ton for this. My concern with him was that he'd be so unplugged from Survivor that he wouldn't know what's going on or be able to navigate the relationships but he's looking to be in a power position! Can't wait to see what else happens!
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Feb 13, 2020 15:27
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Also it's been widely reported that from the beach where they were doing their pregame press, you could see the two idols across the water. I guess 2 tarps to cover them was too expensive now that they have a $2M prize.
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Feb 13, 2020 15:53
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Oh man, if you haven't listened to the RHAP Know It Alls for this episode, it's worth it if for nothing more than the Shane Powers rant about 18 minutes in.
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Dick Bastardly posted:Itd be pretty cool imo, a survivor first even, if a player ate their fire token(s) in order to hide them and then poo poo them out later when they needed them Survivor S40: I'd like to buy an immunity idol once I poo poo out these fire tokens
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Zesty posted:RHAP cut out Shane Power's first few sentences telling people to shut the gently caress up and be respectful from the final podcast version. Just heard the full version. That's pretty stupid that they'd edit out by far the best part of that shitshow podcast. Are there people who actually like the live ones? Anyone at all, outside of Rob himself who I'm sure gets paid well to do them.
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Shooby is from the Netflix show The Circle. It is very good and worth watching
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Khanstant posted:Really? I'll check it out. I've seen it on Netflix and almost clicked it just because Mila Kunis in the thumbnail but figured it was just some generic reality junk. I'll keep my eyes peeled for any Shoob action. I hate to break it to you but it's not Mila Kunis.
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Binary Logic posted:But I'm sure it's a lot of fun for the audience in attendance, and the best conversations are probably happening off stage. I'm no podcast producer, but this seems like the opposite of what you want from a podcast. Maybe those in charge should figure that poo poo out.
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Dick Bastardly posted:I want real people with real reactions and real prejudice's, maybe some anti-white prejudice this time Hey try to keep this poo poo outta here please. Let's maybe have a season with no prejudice and just fun silly goose Survivor.
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Feb 18, 2020 16:29
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JesusSinfulHands posted:Sandra was the #1 person that they wanted to get out which completely baffles me. They needed all the allies that they could get! In my brain, this is their strategy because there are two giant heads of the two of them that are visible to the contestants, which would be a red flag to anyone with half a brain. If he targets her and vice versa, it solidifies with people that they're aligning with that they're legit and not trying to pull some kind of scam where they have this unbreakable island of the idols thing.
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The one winner that I, unironically, wish was there is Fabio. He was the shining winner we all needed in a poo poo dump of a season and while he's obviously a production nightmare, he's more entertaining and more of a winner that the fan base wanted in their seasons over someone like Michele. Fabio vs Naonka is an epic tale all of our children should know and love: http://funny115.com/v3_2/55.htm
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Spatula City posted:the clusterfuck season we need more returnees from is Gabon. BRING BACK KENNY AND CRYSTAL. Uhhh Matty is the player we want from Gabon. (here I would link the Matty gif if I wasn't on my phone and could find it)
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e.martin posted:I assume they are doing the Redemption Island thing again because they have all of the great Survivor personalities and want to keep them hanging around as long as they can even after they are voted out. I get the idea for the ratings but have never liked the Redemption Island thing. I hope no one ever wins by coming back on the show. I've got some bad news for you bud.
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When you look back at it, Ben is truly playing kinda terrible Survivor. I mean, sure he's in conversations with a lot of groups of people but most of them look as though he's just inserted himself (see: Danni and Ethan chat) rather than being invited as a strategic chat. He's also blabbing constantly and it's really showing the gaping holes in his social and strategic game that were suspected the first round due to how his tribes thought of him, but were obviously covered up to a good extent by his idol plays (and I'm sure some creative editing around his stupidity to ensure the winner felt right for viewers).
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Jeez man what's with the Cochran fixation? He was a fine winner but drat he's not a hill worth dying on. Anyway, Fabio won Nicaragua which was a season full of very toxic people, including 2 quitters and nearly a third quitter. The final 3 consisted of Fabio who was a likeable idiot and two unlikeable shits, one of which was Sash who is unpalatable to basically all survivor fans, and the other is a now famous country music star Chase Rice, who doesn't care about survivor and was only there for publicity, which fans hate. I'd weirdly recommend watching Nicaragua if for nothing else than seeing how odd it was and how it really blunted the impact that s19 and s20 had. Survivor had a gently caress ton of momentum in the wake of Russell and then Nicaragua happened which started the "dark ages".
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Yeah I think whomever was saying they don't see the upside of Russell is forgetting what a shot in the arm he was for the series when s19 and 20 aired. He was great tv, despite being a shitheel in real life and he literally changed how survivor has been played. All that said, I dislike the guy, but he was great on his first two seasons. It was hilarious to see him get dumpstered on Australian Survivor though.
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Feb 26, 2020 14:20
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IcePhoenix posted:this Russell was cool did he ever get another shot? He did, and he was bad. He was a casualty of the infamous Matsing tribe.
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Feb 26, 2020 22:17
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Stokes posted:He played on the season with Skupin, Lisa (Blair from Facts of Life), Jeff Kent and Penner's best performance. It is a top 5 season imo. This is kinda a crazy take that I've never heard before. For most people it's kind of a bottom tier season with a deserving winner, particularly after all of the Skupin poo poo came to light. What, outside of Denise's underdog story and Penner bring charismatic, really draws you to this season? Is it Carter?
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Feb 27, 2020 00:48
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This season continues to be great, despite losing someone that none of us wanted to lose (preview spoiler) and hopefully he's okay on EoE, preview made it look like he was having some health issue. I do think it's pretty insane that they're fixating so much on weakening Rob, when he's clearly at a numbers disadvantage so you can really just pick him off immediately. It's extra egregious because Jeremy presumably knows how EoE is working since he got that boon from Natalie so he has to know that Ambuh is going to send anything Rob's way (which costs 1 fire token of which he now obviously has 2, thus 2 advantages). He also has to know that if you send Ethan and Parv off, then they're likely going to have a rooting interest for Rob, who had their backs, so they're going to be feeding fire tokens AND advantages to him, so the more people you have out there on EoE who are your allies, the more likely you are to be accruing advantages! It seems like some pretty logical dots to connect, if I were Jeremy, but I guess maybe he has his reasons why he's not taking that route - which we have to assume is that they're buddies from poker, and the edit just hasn't shown us that side of their relationship. Another thing from Sele that's clear to me is that Adam is Bad At Survivor. I'm not really sure how anyone roots for him, since when he's a sympathetic figure he's very whiny and exudes weakness, and then when he tries to be "in control" he just comes off as a smarmy oval office like he did last night when he thought he has some galaxy brain strategy, that ended in him being the literal only vote for his plan which is the worst possible place you can be....caught between 2 alliances, neither of which think you're meaningful to their plans. Tony is fuckin gold though for rubbing spit covered ash over Sarah's face for no reason. How dumb are these people? Also I'm so glad that my winner pick, Natalie, is dominating EoE. I'm in this weird spot where I'm actually rooting for a possible EoE winner what is happening? ApplesandOranges posted:I mean they should still cut those two loose sooner rather than later because these guys are there for a reason; one has a giant statue of himself and the other is namedropped as someone that every female thinks they are every season. This argument seems insane to me honestly. Rob can explain the statue away in 2 seconds, by telling the EXACT conceit of s39. Tell your tribe-mates that hey so I'm someone who the franchise likes and Jeff likes and am a representative of the show, so they asked me to take this role on where I just sat on an island with tons of amenities and chilled for 36 days and got paid for it. That's why I'm there - because I make good TV quotes - because it took me 4 times to win, and Sandra was there because she won twice in two attempts so she's the player and I'm the "character". And for Parvati, I feel like that is a bit out-dated, particularly for her since she's an admitted different person now. Of COURSE every young female player is going to use her as a role model. Let's take a look at the female winners prior to her: 1) Tina, older woman, mother - un-relatable to many of the young models/actors that get recruited for the show 2) Vecepia - a blase winner who was overshadowed on her season by basically every other character, not famous 3) Jenna - I think she could be someone people would relate themselves to, but she and Heidi had a bit of a stain from the whole PB thing. 4) Sandra - just like Tina, older and a mother - though many DO compare themselves to Sandra (which is why she's often a threat) 5) Amber - Obviously nobody wants to play like Amber, she's bad at Survivor. 6) Danni - Completely invisible game from the edit, which she said she did intentionally. Many people compare themselves to her Guatemala opponent, Stephanie, who played a more visible game, despite being unlikable. So that's all of the female winners leading up to Parvati's win, soon after which Survivor went into those dark years that weren't great, so you can see why everyone wanted to compare themselves to the big game playing, attractive, smart, successful winner. I mean even after her the next female winners were Natalie White and Sophie, neither of whom played games that are flashy enough to want to compare yourself to it in order to get a spot on the show.
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Feb 27, 2020 15:41
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Aerox posted:The fact that everyone knows that Amber is on Edge and no one in the game has a clear understanding of what exactly is going on on Edge or how things work probably mean that people are (smartly, imo, even though we the viewers know he doesn't have anything at this point) assuming that Amber's been sending Rob poo poo and that he's got idols or advantages in his pocket. Like someone else mentioned I saw the Ethan vote as a move to try to flush an idol, it just turns out none of the targets had one. This goes counter to my earlier point of how the more of your target's allies you vote out, the more poo poo they're likely to get from EoE. Jeremy knows that EoE can send players both fire tokens and things to buy them with, so he should know that with Rob now having 2 major allies there, that he's got a good chance of getting stuff send his way. Even more so if they send Parv. It's created a weird ecosystem where you almost want to round robin off players so you can occasionally "unfortunately" lose someone who may be willing to send you or your allies a reward, as something like an idol could pay dividends that another in-game ally may not be able to pull off.
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Feb 27, 2020 19:01
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Spergatory posted:Adam isn't bad at Survivor. Or rather, it's clear that he easily could be good at Survivor. The dude went from nearly being a first boot to being a central figure trusted by nearly everyone in his tribe. You're forgetting that he then was isolated and trusted by literally nobody, including Denise. He's bad at survivor.
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Feb 28, 2020 03:08
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He has ideas that may verge on good but lacks any of the charisma required to pull them off.
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Feb 28, 2020 18:06
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A lot of the hero casting for HvV was weird. I mean, Stephanie and Sugar were heroes. Steph is most famous for being an rear end in a top hat and Sugar is most famous for crying on Gabon's exile and then ruining the end of that season. Very heroic. I guess you could make the argument that Palau Stephanie was "heroic" in that she was the final member of her tribe but I mean....maybe I have a different definition of a hero than a cockroach who wriggled out of a poo poo situation. (and keep in mind she spectacularly lost Guatemala because the jury all didn't like her).
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Mar 2, 2020 17:23
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Yeah I guess I'm more just sour on Gabon as a whole. Particularly about Bob winning because he is a pretty lame duck winner who most fans consider to be the worst winner by a pretty wide margin. I'd personally only rank Chris Underwood under him, and that's just because EoE is dumb and bad and isn't Survivor. I agree with the above post though about Matty being the only good part of Gabon. Bob was nice, but he was a bad Survivor player and really only won because of Sugar (and Susie being somehow an even worse player). Gabon is bad.
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pokeyman posted:Actually a giant statue of Coach sounds perfect.
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curiousCat posted:Here is the hottest take of all: Adam now has no allies in his tribe. Rob still retains allies and has a chance of being neutered enough to have Jeremy bring him in. Edit: he also has people on EoE (Ethan, and Amber) feeding him and his allies advantages. Adam has none of that.
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