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i just accidentally changed my facebook pw without saving it to 1p so i had to reset it. they just happily emailed me a reset link which worked without requiring my totp or a recovery otp (and i was logged out at the time). so what's even the point? might as well keep this poo poo in a text file if all anyone needs is access to my email account this is why i keep my email account out of my pw managers
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Cold on a Cob posted:i just accidentally changed my facebook pw without saving it to 1p so i had to reset it. they just happily emailed me a reset link which worked without requiring my totp or a recovery otp (and i was logged out at the time). Solve multiple problems at once and delete your Facebook account.
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Jun 27, 2021 16:48
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Armauk posted:Solve multiple problems at once and delete your Facebook account. wish i could my dude. wish i could. upon further evaluation, 1pass is proving to be really lovely at handling password changes. it's not saving my changes from browser to vault properly and i've had to reset twice now and it would have been more if i hadn't been copying my passwords into keepass as i go. loving lame.
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Jun 27, 2021 17:41
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at least EA made me use my totp after i reset my password christ, first fb then ea i think 1pass is actually trying to do me a solid by not updating these new passwords
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Jun 27, 2021 17:45
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i have deleted around 50 accounts, it loving owns just forget i ever existed, thx
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Jun 27, 2021 17:53
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ok i did a thorough evaluation of 1password and here are my thoughts Pros:
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Jun 27, 2021 20:53
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I like using keepass.
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Jun 27, 2021 21:05
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keep rear end.
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Jun 27, 2021 21:05
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i had 1password maximized and i right clicked an entry and selected edit and it un-maximized the window i tried this multiple times and it keeps doing it lol
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Jun 27, 2021 21:13
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Cold on a Cob posted:
might be a sync delay if the plug-in is 1password x, which is the full standalone browser plug-in version, not the full install extension version. the names are confusing, and i believe x has better in-field visual integration that is inexplicably not let of the other extension, though i swear it was before x was an option
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Jun 27, 2021 22:36
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Cold on a Cob posted:ok i did a thorough evaluation of 1password and here are my thoughts youre holding it wrong
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Jun 27, 2021 22:44
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Agile Vector posted:might be a sync delay if the plug-in is 1password x, which is the full standalone browser plug-in version, not the full install extension version. the names are confusing, and i believe x has better in-field visual integration that is inexplicably not let of the other extension, though i swear it was before x was an option i installed from the crhome store. anyhow i gave up, the other cons are too much to overcome for me. i've also figured out better ways to get around some of my annoyances in keep rear end so i'm gonna stick w/ it.
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Jun 27, 2021 22:49
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SO DEMANDING posted:youre holding it wrong the windows client is indeed wonky. things like entering a year works as a search string on ios but doesn't in windows. it was always the less updated client but lol wait, maybe they merged the two extensions? i just looked and yeah, the default direction they pointed me for chromium browsers looks like x minus the name. x was a full client for chrome for use on any os that didn't have a full installable app the date search also works there. they should just burn the windows client down and stick the extension in a stand alone app for management and use
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Jun 28, 2021 01:55
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I'm still using PasswordSafe  it's needs suiting and the android app/keyboard thing works pretty well.
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Jun 28, 2021 02:17
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i am very thankful for microsoft authenticator, which i was already using, launching into the password managing business. finally forced me to stop putting off using one. though i suspect it is pretty far from the best option i am pretty sure it is way better than my natural state of just using a lot of bad passwords.
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Jun 28, 2021 13:58
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Agile Vector posted:might be a sync delay if the plug-in is 1password x, which is the full standalone browser plug-in version, not the full install extension version. the names are confusing, and i believe x has better in-field visual integration that is inexplicably not let of the other extension, though i swear it was before x was an option x is gone, its just “1Password” now and the old plugin is called “1Password Classic”. there’s also an option for the plugin to also connect to the app directly
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Jun 28, 2021 14:02
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i am very thankful for microsoft authenticator, which i was already using, launching into the password managing business. finally forced me to stop putting off using one. though i suspect it is pretty far from the best option i am pretty sure it is way better than my natural state of just using a lot of bad passwords. yeah that's like bottom of the "good pwm practices hierarchy" that i did years ago too i'm finally, ityool 2021, done cleaning up my mess of old passwords that all followed the pattern {MixedCasePassphraseAndFavouriteNumber}{NameOfService}{ExclamationIfSymbolRequired} {MixedCasePassphraseAndFavouriteNumber} is very much in the haveibeenpwned db even though it was a random thing i just reused everywhere because of numerous breaches over the years
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Jun 28, 2021 14:07
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:x is gone, its just “1Password” now and the old plugin is called “1Password Classic”. that makes so much more sense and is way less confusing, it's such a better choice to combo them
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Jun 28, 2021 14:22
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Cold on a Cob posted:yeah that's like bottom of the "good pwm practices hierarchy" that i did years ago too i'm adding this pattern to my auto exploiter scripts
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Jun 28, 2021 15:30
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Sagebrush posted:keep rear end. I keep my asses close, that's why I post in the same threads as you.
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Jun 28, 2021 15:39
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Agile Vector posted:that makes so much more sense and is way less confusing, it's such a better choice to combo them yeah i think they merged them relatively recently once they considered the all-in-one to be "stable". you had to download the plugin manually from the 1password site for ages.
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Jun 28, 2021 15:47
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well it didn’t work for me logging into things was fine, updating passwords was not. i was pretty careful after the first time it hosed up to account for pebcak too
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Jun 28, 2021 15:54
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Jun 28, 2021 16:00
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i had the desktop client open at the same time (but notably i was NOT changing data in the desktop client) so maybe sync shenanigans from it auto-saving? idk. i was annoyed enough i didn't check the history on the entry in question.
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Jun 28, 2021 16:01
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in any case, i'm going ot assume the weirdness i ran into is just something to do with me. maybe reinstalling everything would have fixed, idk. i have friends who use 1pass who are very happy but they also get to live entirely using macs and/or linux, unfortunately i have to use windows too so keepassxc for me vOv i might give bitwarden one more try b/c shared credentials are still something keepassxc is real bad at, but going to give it a few weeks i think.
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Jun 28, 2021 16:07
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a goon friend has informed me that 1password 8 is a shitload better than 7.7 https://blog.1password.com/1password-8-for-windows-is-now-in-early-access/ i'm gonna give it a spin and report back
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Jun 28, 2021 19:53
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i'm eagerly looking forward to that report and want to try it too. that looks like the best of the macOS and iOS clients with further UI/UX improvements on those designs, and the rust codebase sounds like maybe they tossed all the old cruft from 7, which itself was a big step from the old 4 codebase
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Jun 28, 2021 20:00
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yeah i'm still on 1pass 4. once i saw they were going the route of forcing subscriptions on people i disabled auto-updates and i've been coasting for years on this without too many issues
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Jun 28, 2021 20:22
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good: - jank is gone. editing screen is a lot less busy but still has everything you need. it looks really good too. - i can attach multiple files to any entry - it has a quick way to generate fake security question/answers, which i didn't really play with much but it's there. - dark mode added - low memory footprint, very responsive - watchtower is nicer. the new password strength graph is sweet and all results are condensed into one page now. - i like the integration of categories at the top of the list, makes the sidebar less busy still missing or newly broken (keeping in mind it's early access!! so some of this may be unfinished/coming back/etc - hard to say b/c no road map or public plans): - no change to searching and it still sucks. in fact i think they made it worse, i can no longer type in "tag:" to find all untagged items. - can no longer add/remove tags with a right-click - hopefully they'll bring this back - still no multi-line/note style obfuscated fields - watchtower still lacks ability to customize it a bit or turn it off for certain items short of using special tags for some things. - still closed source but vOv - forgot to mention before but i want auto-type capability as well, but i understand it's not high priority for them and honestly i'd use it for maybe three apps, only one of which i use daily - no new categories and still can't create "custom" categories - still no roadmap? idk maybe idk where to look but it would be nice  - created a new vault but it didn't appear until i closed and re-opened the application vOv weird random bug i didn't re-test browser integration i also didn't re-test importing data
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Jun 28, 2021 20:41
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PIZZA.BAT posted:yeah i'm still on 1pass 4. once i saw they were going the route of forcing subscriptions on people i disabled auto-updates and i've been coasting for years on this without too many issues i'm still running you need a budget 4 for this exact reason
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Jun 28, 2021 20:42
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is it a good idea to use an old version of a password manager? doesnt seem like a good idea to me
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Jun 28, 2021 20:59
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personal: firefox, keepassxc at work: https://www.usefulsoft.com/network-password-manager/ , boss hadn't upgraded it in over 10 years so got to get done as a mini-project
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Jun 28, 2021 21:48
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oh i didnt even realize they released a stand-alone 1password app for linux cool
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PIZZA.BAT posted:yeah i'm still on 1pass 4. once i saw they were going the route of forcing subscriptions on people i disabled auto-updates and i've been coasting for years on this without too many issues I was doing that until the client on other platforms got too out of sync and I got tired of trying to work around 4. if you can swing it, that's a good setup, tbh Cold on a Cob posted:good: I grabbed it too and the search not getting date of creation or change is still annoying me. it such a tiny inconsistency when so much of the experience took a step forward everywhere else the browser integration seems better, but maybe it's because I was using classic and not the new standard (x) version. I like the new watchtower view as well, but there's always some entries, like "unsecured urls" that point to my local printer's settings for example that will never be https, that i want some way of telling it to ignore them
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Jun 28, 2021 22:28
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turns out my org provides a lastpass account. thanks org
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Jun 28, 2021 22:35
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okay, so my homebridge had a lazy password and i used the rc 1p v8 extension to change it, it spotted the new password fields fine with a nice update view and that synced to the app instantly which removed the entry from watchtower and (a bit annoyingly) reset me to the main view because it wasn't flagged anymore
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Agile Vector posted:the browser integration seems better, but maybe it's because I was using classic and not the new standard (x) version. I like the new watchtower view as well, but there's always some entries, like "unsecured urls" that point to my local printer's settings for example that will never be https, that i want some way of telling it to ignore them give it an 'http' tag and it should exclude it you can also give '2fa' tags to things you don't give a poo poo about adding 2fa to or just plain can't, like most wikipedia users Agile Vector posted:that synced to the app instantly which removed the entry from watchtower and (a bit annoyingly) reset me to the main view because it wasn't flagged anymore yeah this was driving me nuts too
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fwiw i'm also loving around trying to get keepassxc syncing nicely between work pc, home pc, and ios and results are.... meh. i've already had one sync conflict. i think it's b/c keepassium doesn't work like keepassxc with constant saving and reloading, which is probably good for battery life and bad for keeping poo poo in sync vOv edit: i'm using dropbox to do the sync b/c i don't use it at all for anything else except syncing a few config files between work and home.
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