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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Nevada Democratic Primary Debate 2020: The Hunt For The Wild Bloomberg
 
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reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012
 If it weren't for superdelegates, I'd probably be satisfied with handing it off to someone else on a second round vote. More satisfied if there was any actual democratic aspect to selecting the delegate for anyone except caucus states, but reasonably satisfied even as is. First past the post however is infinitely more democratic and Respecting of the WIll of the Voters than anything involving superdelegates, which is the actual situation we're faced with.

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reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

joepinetree posted:

Stv only applies to elections where you are electing more than one person. In the case of a caucus where you only transfer the votes of the non viable candidates, stv works the same way as ranked choice.

A caucus does elect more than one person though. Each location is picking multiple county level delegates with some exceptions.

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reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

joepinetree posted:

But they are not voting for delegates, they are voting for presidential delegates.

To clarify: stv transfers excess votes and votes from unviable candidates.

So let's say you are voting for 5 seats in a council and there are 100 voters. So it's 20 votes per seat. So first thing you do is transfer the votes of everyone who got MORE than 20 votes to their second option. After you get through all the excess votes, you start to eliminate all those who are last, until you get 5 candidates with exactly 20 votes.

In a caucus you don't do the first part, because the excess votes matter. I.e., you get 35 votes you keep those. In a caucus you only do the "transfer from those below viability" part. I.e., the same as ranked choice.

Yeah but functionally there isn't much difference between '35 votes for he gets two delegate,' and '35 votes for Bernie's first delegate, 15 votes transfer to his second delegate.'

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