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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

forkboy84 posted:

I'm getting suspicious that it was Zoom what created Coronavirus 19 because nae oval office had even heard of their app 6 weeks ago & now it's every where.

Funnily enough we had just started discussing moving to it towards the end of last year. I was having meetings on it occasionally to test it out, then CERN closed completely and all meetings went remote, the previous solution we were using poo poo the bed under the extra load and most meetings that could moved over to zoom.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
What a surprise

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1245046544501530624?s=19

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Dell_Zincht posted:

Thanks for this, definitely making a note of all the companies I used to use frequently but will not be touching with a bargepole when all this is over.

Also, holy gently caress that termination letter from Wren:

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5da5779bcc68914355c323ef/5e80ce17d75a9b4b61f87a79_Wren%20-%20notice%20of%20termination%20no%20meta.pdf

"Hi, Come in and sit down" how loving patronising and smug is that, what a bunch of cunts.

That's not even the worst part. Wren are literally saying "You're fired because you're not good enough, but you're welcome to reapply for a job after the crisis is over". I don't think there's an employment tribunal anywhere who wouldn't deem that to be constructive dismissal.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
https://twitter.com/Manda_like_wine/status/1244602911084154880

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Jedit posted:

That's not even the worst part. Wren are literally saying "You're fired because you're not good enough, but you're welcome to reapply for a job after the crisis is over". I don't think there's an employment tribunal anywhere who wouldn't deem that to be constructive dismissal.

I might be wrong but I don't think if you're been employed under 2 years you have any scope for taking it to tribunal or claiming unfair dismissal etc.

The worst thing about that letter is claiming it is a performance issue. Surely, on the assumption that it is not a performance issue, that is unnecessary and redundancy in view of the economic climate is enough?

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Jedit posted:

That's not even the worst part. Wren are literally saying "You're fired because you're not good enough, but you're welcome to reapply for a job after the crisis is over". I don't think there's an employment tribunal anywhere who wouldn't deem that to be constructive dismissal.

Yeah, surely they’re hosed if this goes to tribunal. Glad I didn’t get my kitchen from them now. but did show their ideas to an independent trader.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

This is the future Democrats dream of.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Red Oktober posted:

Yeah, surely they’re hosed if this goes to tribunal. Glad I didn’t get my kitchen from them now. but did show their ideas to an independent trader.

As JA said before you can't take them to the tribunal if you've been there for less than 2 years, hence why it says "under 2 years" in the document header.

A lot of your employment contract (as far as employer obligations go, they can still sue you if they want) is basically meaningless for the first 2 years. In some ways it's less protection than even in the worst US states for that period.

bionic vapour boy
Feb 13, 2012

Impervious to fun.

I have to say the most surprising thing about corona is it's made Peston start actually doing his loving job re: tory claims

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/goldfishbabe101/status/1041091265113333760

Lol, called it.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Welsh vulnerables, be prepared.
I've checked - the GP practice is real, the person named in the latter is as real as can be determined from a google.

https://twitter.com/MelanieLeahy/status/1245033738037334019

The tweet has been reposted with the name of the person it was sent to deleted:

https://twitter.com/MelanieLeahy/status/1245057632634908672?s=20




And as a silly counterpoint: thread

https://twitter.com/royalacademy/status/1245004336687702017?s=20

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Mar 31, 2020

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Iffyn shee art not spæking thussly thæn Y credyt notte hyr claymes of XIIth hundertyeeare Nunneree.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


goddamnedtwisto posted:

This is the future Democrats dream of.

Means tested homelessness boxes. Only available if you've become homeless through no fault of your own, by our very liberal definition of fault; it's your fault your job got outsourced and you couldn't find a new career at age 55 for example.

Think about all the empty hotel rooms in Vegas right now. gently caress, even the empty sports arenas. But nah, can't even give the homeless a roof over their heads. I know it's Las Vegas but it's still going to get nippy at night. (I'm assuming this is happening in Las Vegas, one of two places people live in Nevada, the other being Reno)

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010


I know a bunch of university labs that have been donating RNA extraction kits and qPCR machines to hospitals, and the manufacturers have said they're in the process of massively ramping up production, so there's clearly a bottleneck somewhere. But "there is/isn't a shortage of reagents" is a loving useless soundbite as neither Gove or Peston say what the reagents are.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Welsh vulnerables, be prepared.
I've checked - the GP practice is real, the person named in the latter is as real as can be determined from a google.

https://twitter.com/MelanieLeahy/status/1245033738037334019

Already gone.

https://twitter.com/MelanieLeahy/status/1245057632634908672

e: apparently reposted

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Welsh vulnerables, be prepared.
I've checked - the GP practice is real, the person named in the latter is as real as can be determined from a google.

https://twitter.com/MelanieLeahy/status/1245033738037334019

Well obviously it's been deleted. What did it say?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

snip

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Mar 31, 2020

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

duckmaster posted:

Well obviously it's been deleted. What did it say?

Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Welsh vulnerables, be prepared.
I've checked - the GP practice is real, the person named in the latter is as real as can be determined from a google.

Gone already, though I was able to snap the cached twitter thumbnail:

E:beaten with info removed.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Biggus Dickus posted:

Gone already, though I was able to snap the cached twitter thumbnail:

Ah I see why they took it down, patients name and address is uncovered in that version - you might want to edit that out.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref


For people wondering why the government have got such high approval ratings, this is why. They have preplanned "press conferences" that are broadcast across the nation in prime time where they state that the situation is currently X. The media hacks then go off and find out that, actually, the situation is Y, and this is the bad situation. But the 6 oclock news has already happened, most people don't spend their time reading random journalists's twitter accounts, and by the time the morning news comes around they're too busy doing fluff pieces about the NHS.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Oh they're lovely:

https://twitter.com/DickKingSmith/status/1245052868144631809?s=20

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?


Hi, I live in Vegas.

To put how hosed up this is in sharper relief: not only is the Strip and all its hotel/casinos empty, but Vegas is the 4th in the US in home vacancy-- fully 15% of Las Vegas homes were vacant as of March 2019. That's just shy of 128,000 homes. Vegas has an estimated 5,500 homeless residents.

gently caress this place. Don't come here. Don't spend money here. Las Vegas is a wasteland of the human soul.

minema
May 31, 2011
It seems like the letters are only being sent to people who are currently suffering from a terminal illness. Really, their GP should have had a conversation about this regardless of COVID-19 as CPR is very brutal on the body and very unlikely to work in the majority of cases. It's a horrible way for a life to end when the alternative is passing away at home.

Having said that, I doubt there will be enough palliative and community care ensuring that people with DNACPR/those not admitted to hospital will be kept comfortable in their final days, which is an issue.

Also, DNACPRs are put in place by doctors based on their clinical judgement, and it can be against family/patient wishes although I don't know how often this actually happens. It will also be a very high transmission intervention which is putting the healthcare staff at risk.

So I can see the doctors reasons for encouraging patients to think about their resuscitation status but I'm not sure if that letter is the best way to do it.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

minema posted:

It seems like the letters are only being sent to people who are currently suffering from a terminal illness. Really, their GP should have had a conversation about this regardless of COVID-19 as CPR is very brutal on the body and very unlikely to work in the majority of cases. It's a horrible way for a life to end when the alternative is passing away at home.

Having said that, I doubt there will be enough palliative and community care ensuring that people with DNACPR/those not admitted to hospital will be kept comfortable in their final days, which is an issue.

Also, DNACPRs are put in place by doctors based on their clinical judgement, and it can be against family/patient wishes although I don't know how often this actually happens. It will also be a very high transmission intervention which is putting the healthcare staff at risk.

So I can see the doctors reasons for encouraging patients to think about their resuscitation status but I'm not sure if that letter is the best way to do it.

They seem to be aware of that. And I think they are sending these letters asking their terminal patients to agree to DNR because they know that they won't be in a position to attempt it.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNq_BQIKFaE

When I first saw this video it was captioned "Man has best day ever" which isn't technically true because it's a llama, not an alpaca, empirically the Best Animal.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

StarkingBarfish posted:

Funnily enough we had just started discussing moving to it towards the end of last year. I was having meetings on it occasionally to test it out, then CERN closed completely and all meetings went remote, the previous solution we were using poo poo the bed under the extra load and most meetings that could moved over to zoom.

It's probably better than microsoft Teams and its limited 4 simultaneous screens view. Nothing quite like a visual communication medium capping you at 4 loving people before it shuffles out the quietest person in the room.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Dell_Zincht posted:


Also, holy gently caress that termination letter from Wren:

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5da5779bcc68914355c323ef/5e80ce17d75a9b4b61f87a79_Wren%20-%20notice%20of%20termination%20no%20meta.pdf

"Hi, Come in and sit down" how loving patronising and smug is that, what a bunch of cunts.

I work in the kitchen and bathroom industry, and Wren had a reputation for being a bunch of complete twats to their employees and customers even before Coronavirus. This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. They're also charging people 150.00 to delay delivery of kitchens, and have form for threatening legal action against people who try cancelling an order. I dodged a big bullet by never taking a job there.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

"Hey Webex, can you keep the video feed of the meeting room with 8 people big, and everyone else small?"

"No! Guy on his own in Italy is breathing! He go big now!"

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Follow up to the Welsh surgery letter posted earlier:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/31/welsh-surgery-says-sorry-after-telling-the-very-ill-not-to-call-999

quote:

Welsh surgery apologises over 'do not resuscitate' instruction
GPs’ practice backs down after bid to focus resources on those more likely to survive Covid-19

Mattha Busby

Tue 31 Mar 2020 20.08 BSTLast modified on Tue 31 Mar 2020 20.15 BST

Patients registered at Llynfi surgery who have incurable diseases were advised to request CPR be withheld from them. Photograph: Alamy
An NHS health board has apologised after a GP surgery in Wales recommended patients with serious illnesses complete “do not resuscitate” forms in case their health deteriorated after contracting coronavirus.

Llynfi surgery, in Maesteg near Port Talbot, wrote to a “small number” of patients on Friday to ask them to complete a “DNACPR” – do not attempt cardiopulmonary resuscitation – form to ensure emergency services would not be called if they contracted Covid-19 and their health deteriorated.

“This is a very difficult letter for the practice to write to you,” it read, noting those with illnesses such as incurable cancer, motor neurone disease and pulmonary fibrosis were at a much greater risk from the virus.

“We would therefore like to complete a DNACPR form for you which we can share … which will mean that in the event of a sudden deterioration in your condition because [of] Covid infection or disease progression the emergency services will not be called and resuscitation attempts to restart your heart or breathing will not be attempted,” it continued.

“Completing a DNACPR will have several benefits,” it claimed. “1/ your GP and more importantly your friends and family will know not to call 999. 2/ scarce ambulance resources can be targeted to the young and fit who have a greater chance.”

It added: “The risk of transmitting the virus to friends, family and emergency responders from CPR … is very high. By having a DNACPR form in place you protect your family … [and] emergency responders from this additional risk.”

The letter said that in an “ideal situation” doctors would have had this conversation in person with vulnerable patients but had written to them instead due to fears they are carrying the virus and were asymptomatic. “We will not abandon you,” it said. “But we need to be frank and realistic.”

The GP surgery directed the Guardian to the Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board, which said the recommendation that vulnerable patients complete DNACPR forms was not a health board requirement.

“A letter was recently sent out from Llynfi surgery to a small number of patients,” a spokesperson said. “This was not a health board communication.

“The surgery have been made aware that the letter has caused upset to some of the patients who received it. This was not their intent and they apologise for any distress caused. Staff at the surgery are speaking to those patients who received the letter to apologise directly and answer any concerns they may have.”

The letter went viral on social media and one person said a nurse practitioner had recently visited her father, who is receiving palliative care, to also request he sign a DNACPR form.

The number of deaths from the virus in the UK rose by 393 on Tuesday – the highest rise since the pandemic began – taking the overall toll to 1,789.

The NHS currently has 8,175 ventilators and has said it needs 30,000 more to deal with an expected peak of Covid-19 patients, while the health service is reportedly attempting to increase its intensive care capacity sevenfold amid fears the full effect of the pandemic could be overwhelming.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Everyone (especially people with health issues) should consider what they'd want in an advance care directive, including whether they want their chest stoved in for a few more days/months, but the letter is a bit on the nose.

Maybe they should have been advertising advance care forms between the life insurance and make a will adverts on daytime TV a few months/years ago instead (I'm not sure who 'they' would be in this case).

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Guavanaut posted:

Maybe they should have been advertising advance care forms between the life insurance and make a will adverts on daytime TV a few months/years ago instead (I'm not sure who 'they' would be in this case).

Parkie :(

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
All video conferencing software is poo poo, but lol that the government is using Zoom of all things. Glad that App Mancock presumably got his moment in the sun showing everyone how it works though.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Is there a house of commons and a cobra in second Life?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The cobra is an actual snake who wants to yiff you though.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

big scary monsters posted:

All video conferencing software is poo poo, but lol that the government is using Zoom of all things. Glad that App Mancock presumably got his moment in the sun showing everyone how it works though.

Zoom's extra poo poo from a company / privacy / security perspective.

Both as being an extra poo poo company and being extra poo poo for companies.

... also on the gang tags, no, they're not in their own folder and haven't been for years, and AdBlock anything is so hilariously out of date you should check if you have transformed into grandmothers recommending them. uBlock Origin is the one you use if you don't want to give an advertising company access to everything you browse.

For videoconferencing there's no options that don't give an advertising company access to everything or require you to roll your own. Yeah, it sucks. Zoom is the worst of the big players though.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

endlessmonotony posted:

For videoconferencing there's no options that don't give an advertising company access to everything or require you to roll your own. Yeah, it sucks. Zoom is the worst of the big players though.

I don't think that's true of Microsoft's offerings. Teams is wank and Skype for Business too, but AFAIK you pay Microsoft for the licenses and that's the product, not your data.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Guavanaut posted:

Everyone (especially people with health issues) should consider what they'd want in an advance care directive, including whether they want their chest stoved in for a few more days/months, but the letter is a bit on the nose.


Everyone should also tell their loved ones how they feel about them, I get that it feels that stuff will never happen to them, but that's how most people feel, then it does, and then its too late.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

OwlFancier posted:

The cobra is an actual snake who wants to yiff you though.

Good luck finding me in the thick fog of flying penises.


e: oops sorry i meant to quote this post

willie_dee posted:

Everyone should also tell their loved ones how they feel about them,

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