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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
| R. Burgon |
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80 | 21.33% |
| D. Butler |
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| A. Rayner |
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| I. Murray |
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| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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Lungboy posted:Aye, government policy is being led by Cummings and his weirdos, so they are listening to "behavioural economists" rather than medics and scientists. This is why I roll my eyes every time I hear a Government representative say that they are "following scientific advice" on Coronavirus. It didn't take me long to realise that they're classing economists as scientists for this purpose.
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Mar 12, 2020 09:07
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I work for a very small company where work from home is pretty much impossible. There are two key staff members there (me and my boss), and the company literally would not be able to function without one of us. I know this because that's what happened last year when I missed a week and a half of work due to a (then apocalyptic) case of the flu. I ended up coming back to work close to a week before I should because the place was falling apart in my absence. The work Coronavirus contingency policy amounts to "Don't get sick".
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Mar 12, 2020 22:20
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I have a sneaking feeling that speedrunning Coronavirus through the population so that we're back up and running before the rest of Europe is the kind of idea that would appeal to Dominic Cummings. Probably not true, but it would probably explain the aggressive indifference the government sees to be showing to this. Losing a few hundred thousand mostly economically inactive pensioners with expensive medical needs is probably a bonus for him.
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Mar 12, 2020 22:43
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ThomasPaine posted:On the plus side, all of these big names testing positive suggests to me that we literally all have it. That's a good thing! It means the mortality rate could be way lower than we think because we're only seeing a small reaction or cases, most of them the worst hit. I spoke to my sister today. She works in a hospital away from any reported outbreaks, and says that it's an open secret that they've been getting cases for the past couple of days, but are waiting on confirmations. Not people phoning 111 because they have a cough, but people admitted with serious respiratory distress. Apparently this isn't an outlier, a lot of hospitals are starting to see the same. We all have it, and the official infection rate is going off a ski-jump over the weekend.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:08
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I jokingly posted yesterday that speedrunning Coronavirus through the population as fast as possible and taking a couple of hundred thousand extra deaths in order to be back on our feet before the rest of Europe might be the kind of idea to appeal to Dominic Cummings, especially if most of the extra deaths are amongst those he considers to be a drain on society. Every action (or lack thereof) our government's taken today is making me less convinced this is a joke. Every medical expert I've heard speaking on the radio today about herd immunity sounds as if Cummings is stood behind them holding a gun to their head.
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Mar 13, 2020 19:34
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Is it just me, or is the Government and the BBC starting to get a bit coy about releasing infection figures? They've started slipping them in about half way through other virus-related articles rather than reporting them directly, and the big Pandemic-style maps seem to be hidden away in a corner. Haven't they been releasing new figures at 9am every morning? They're still reporting yesterday's total of 798.
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Mar 14, 2020 11:10
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Isn't 60% way too low for herd immunity anyway? I was under the impression that 80% was considered to be an optimistic estimate.
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Mar 14, 2020 11:28
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ThomasPaine posted:Are we not expecting the virus to naturally decline with warmer weather? Not really. What we will probably see however is the usual seasonal winter illnesses tapering off, which at least reduce strain on the NHS.
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Mar 14, 2020 11:54
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There've just been a couple of retired doctors on radio 4 Any Answers absolutely demolishing the government herd immunity response. Also rather fewer Gammons than usual.
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Mar 14, 2020 15:42
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jabby posted:There is no national guidance for who gets a ventilator, and certainly no age cut-off. Decisions will be made locally depending on demand, which may eventually include age as a big factor but it will still be a unit-specific decision. There's no national guidance about a ventilator age cutoff yet, because no way in hell does Boris want something like that floating around on paper with a government official's signature on it. Rather than becoming official policy, each health authority will be left to make it's own decision. The same with not banning mass gatherings until most of them have been cancelled of their own accord. As to testing, I heard a doctor on the radio today ridicule the herd immunity response due to the lack of community testing. If only people presenting at hospitals with symptoms are tested, how do we know if and when we've reached herd immunity levels of infection?
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Mar 14, 2020 17:01
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Angrymog posted:I'm a bit concerned that Bardeh has seen two people collapse today. Please stay away from Sheerness. Same thing happened near me this morning. Somebody collapsed in the vegetable aisle of the local Lidl, cracked his head, blood and paramedics everywhere. My boss is due to fly out to Tenerife for a holiday tomorrow. He's going ahead with it because he doesn't want to lose the 1.5k he spent on it. I don't know if he's booked to fly with Jet2 or not, so this can go one of two ways. Either he was booked to fly with them and I don't get left to my own devices for a week, or he does fly and gets stuck there for who knows how long when Spain inevitably locks down the country. Guess I'll find out tomorrow.
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Mar 14, 2020 18:51
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Boris Johnson's Coronavirus plan: Bag the bug for Britain.
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Mar 14, 2020 18:56
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Most of the 70 and 80 year-olds I know will straight-up ignore a restriction like that while wondering what all the fuss is about. Just try telling my neighbour that Bingo night is cancelled.
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Mar 14, 2020 21:43
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njsykora posted:That's less than £100 a week, it wouldn't even cover my (comparatively low) rent, let alone council tax, power bills, food and other bills. Simple. Just squat in one of the newly vacated houses belonging to to the elderlies killed off by Cummings. If anyone tries evicting you, cough at them.
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Mar 14, 2020 22:04
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Azza Bamboo posted:I like how in all these "flatten the curve" diagrams they show some kind of surplus capacity in the healthcare system like it's not already balls-to-the-wall. There's surplus capacity if you just stop doing the small unneccessary things like joint replacements, cancer treatments, that kind of thing. Nothing really essential.
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Mar 14, 2020 22:17
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stev posted:Such a shame he already used the pregnancy/engagement card. Not sure what other distractions he can pull out of the bag. No reason to believe he can't pull the pregnancy card again. Edit: drat, beaten.
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Mar 15, 2020 21:01
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oxford_town posted:Iron lungs work by negative pressure ventilation i.e. the pressure inside the chamber drops, causing the lungs to expand. Works well for paralysis of respiratory muscles (i.e. polio). Modern ventilators are positive pressure i.e. higher pressure air is forced into the lungs, which works well (ish) when the lungs are full of inflammatory gunk as in acute respiratory distress syndrome associated with COVID. I think the point is more that ventilators have been around for a while. In an emergency, you don't need to make a top-of-the-line 2020s model when any ventilator is better than none at all. Simplify and regress the design to the point that it can be produced in workshops with on-hand parts. They might be bulkier and not quite as effective as current models, but that's an acceptable compromise given the poo poo we're in.
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Mar 15, 2020 22:26
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Angepain posted:it would slow the spread, which is a good thing because it prevents hospitals from being overrun. Deciding we're already all fated to be infected and so we might as well just go around licking each other's faces to get it over with is actually not a good idea What makes this difficult even if the government decides to do something is that our outbreak is already widespread. Italy's outbreak was mostly concentrated in the North, while Spain's is concentrated in Madrid. There might be a few islands in the Shetlands where we don't have pockets of infection. I think this figures quite heavily in the current official guidelines.
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Mar 15, 2020 22:43
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TheRat posted:This thing really is a massive punch in the dick. The last report like this someone posted here was that the virus literally punches you in the dick. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/wuhan-doctors-warn-coronavirus-could-cause-male-infertility
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Mar 15, 2020 23:02
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quote:Or methylated spirits (don't do the drinking part with this). I thought about this last week, just getting some meths and adding a gelling agent to it. It turns out that not all alcohols are created equal when it comes to antiviral properties. Methyl alcohol is bottom of the heap in this regard.
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Mar 16, 2020 19:20
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Weasling Weasel posted:Awesome, that takes off the pressure a little bit. While I feel guilty for letting my colleagues pick up the slack at work, I assume self-isolating is still the best cause of action? If only because you don't want your co-workers making GBS threads themselves everytime you cough, yes. Toilet roll is a scarce resource. My area looks like it's likely to be hit hard both economically and physically. It's a relatively rural area that's pretty much dependent on seasonal tourism to survive. We have a large elderly population due to a combination of the youth moving away to work only to be replaced by older people moving in from the cities to retire. Hospital and emergency services coverage is sparse, and we already have an influx of rich plague refugees fleeing the hotspots to their second homes to make sure plenty of the virus is sloshing around.
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Mar 17, 2020 08:59
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We're going to be keeping the doors open for as long as possible (small family business, where I'm the only non-family employee), although I did manage to persuade the boss to send his 71 year-old father and brother with medical issues home for the duration. Also, his mother isn't going to be coming in to do the cleaning anymore, so it looks like cleaning toilets may have been added to the job description. We're also starting to see our first China-related supply chain issues (kitchen and bathroom business). Honestly, I don't see "as long as possible" being all that long. One of the nearby big caravan and chalet parks is having a discussion about closing this evening. We've been seeing a lot of people fleeing the cities, and apparently one chalet owner was boasting around the park that a close relative was infected and that he'd decided to go on holiday rather than self-isolate. The management threw him off the site, he objected rather strenuously, and the police were nearly called.
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Mar 17, 2020 20:11
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Guavanaut posted:
This has had the unfortunate effect of crippling a good chunk of the foodbank network. Hundreds of foodbanks work out of Church buildings, and they've effectively been evicted with zero notice. My mother volunteers at the local foodbank, and as of today they are effectively shut.
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Mar 17, 2020 20:54
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Regarde Aduck posted:Why is that? The ICU's haven't failed yet. Are our olds just really unhealthy compared to the continent? I can really see it being that. We've stopped community testing, and are now only testing people presenting at hospitals with severe symptoms. The recorded mortality rate is going up because we're only testing the people most likely to die.
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Mar 18, 2020 08:51
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The Perfect Element posted:Is there a decent, concise source of information which will make people start taking this loving thing seriously? My office (which has today, thankfully, shut) yesterday was full of people chortling about how they're safe / it's just a bad cold etc., and there was, I poo poo you not, a whole table full of communal snacks and treats laid out in the kitchen which everyone was cheerfully helping themselves to... All while the entire planet is shutting down, and every government in the world, even loving OURS, is telling people to stay the gently caress away from each other. Unfortunately, we're probably going to have to wait until somebody famous (by which I mean front page of the Sun famous) dies of it for many people to take it seriously. My area is a prime example. We have a lot of second homes and no official infections, so we've been innundated with people coming in to the area and treating the whole thing as a big holiday. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-51937753
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Mar 18, 2020 09:02
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Borrovan posted:I'm not saying that you should commit arson, but, "Red sky at night, shepherd's delight. Red sky in the morning, Englishman's holiday home on fire" -traditional welsh proverb.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:12
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keep punching joe posted:All the rich fled to their second homes in the country and overloaded rural hospitals. Good job that isn't happening here... oh. Same here in North Wales. People have been flooding into the area for the past two weeks, and are stripping the local shops bare, and being generally obnoxious. A lot of them have decided that they're now in a safe zone and are treating it like a holiday, so good luck containing the virus The summit of Snowdon was standing room only today. The local GPs are seriously worried, as we're under-resourced for the permanent population as it is. The fact that this is pretty much THE Welshest corner of Wales throws an interesting bit of racial tension into the mix as well.
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Mar 21, 2020 19:33
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https://twitter.com/McDonaldsUK/status/1241824519280566274 poo poo's getting serious. I thought there was a push to keep takeaways open.
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Mar 22, 2020 21:50
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Does Dominic Cummings live nearby?
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Mar 22, 2020 22:06
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I've had mild cold symptoms (intermittent wet cough and occasional very slight sore throat) for a few weeks now. I'm not in a hotspot, and I've consistently passed my 'Rona self-diagnosis test of running 4 miles without dying so far. Oh, I also have partial anosmia, but I've had that since before it was cool.
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Mar 22, 2020 22:38
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Weasling Weasel posted:I had very mild cold symptoms so tried to run a second 5k for that week and only made 3k, since then my chest and back muscles are horrible, so really dont recommend this as a diagnosis too. Running appeals to the self-flagellist in me.
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Mar 22, 2020 22:43
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I've been aggressively sniffing lots of stuff today. I discovered my anosmia while working somewhere that sold scented candles. Someone handed me a raspberry-scented candle, and asked me what it smelled of. "Candle".
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Mar 22, 2020 22:46
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Now imagine being one of only three kids in the school (which was Lord of the Flies at the best of times) *without* that weakness? I was a living god, I tell you. Immunity to BCG pain was one of my two superpowers in secondary school. The other power was the ability to store and aggressively transmit the static electricity from CRT monitors in the computer rooms.
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Mar 22, 2020 22:53
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sassassin posted:My BCG injection got infected and exploded over my pillow about a week later. Big scar still. My brother fainted while having his BCG and fractured his skull.
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Mar 22, 2020 22:54
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Who is the most famous person to die from it so far? There are a fair number of pretty famous actors in their 80s.
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Mar 22, 2020 22:58
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Comrade Fakename posted:The only difference between Weinstein and other famous people in this regard is that because he’s in prison he cannot hide his infection. The rich, famous and powerful were one of the earliest vectors for the virus. Way more politicians and similar have the virus than has been reported. Remember literally everyone in Parliament (and the Tory party in particular) has been exposed. Sex pests seem to be particularly prone to the virus. Placido Domingo tested positive today.
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Mar 22, 2020 23:00
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NotJustANumber99 posted:
I live in a rural area. The main reason social distancing isn't working here is that we're being flooded with plague refugees from the cities. We don't have many confirmed cases here yet, so the incomers are treating it as a safe zone and getting into everyone's faces. There are several unconfirmed pockets of infection locally already.
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Mar 22, 2020 23:10
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Gwent is a hot spot. Monmouthshire, Newport, Cardiff, Caerphilly Nowhere near there. Llyn peninsula. There are rumours of a case in my village, although that might be just someone hearing someone else cough. Definitely cases in some of the local towns, though. Soylent Yellow fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Mar 22, 2020 |
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Mar 22, 2020 23:24
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Strom Cuzewon posted:So what's happened in the past 24 hours that we're (probably) going from "oh please don't stand too close together" to full on lockdown? It followed the usual pattern of Government Coronavirus response. Wales and Scotland started to make lockdown noises after this weekend's frolics in the countryside, so Boris didn't have much of a choice. Everyone: For the love of god, do this! Boris: Doing this now would be an overreaction. (infection rate rises dramatically) Wales & Scotland: We're doing this! Boris: Fine, let's do it. I was going to do it anyway. Totally not doing it because everyone's gone ahead and done it anyway.
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Mar 23, 2020 20:28
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I taped an exclusion zone around the counter at work this morning. I needn't have bothered, as nobody came in all day.
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Mar 23, 2020 20:38
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